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From what I've seen, the other one requires you to drill a bunch of holes, then use the router to connect them. This has 2 pilot holes and uses a special endmill to do the primary cutting.
The main feature I like is the pilot pins that direct the cutting versus watching your router to keep it in the template. |
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Here is a link to my review
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/707637_.html&page=1 I completed the receiver in a hour and 45 minutes and was test firing it a hour and 15 minutes later. Ran through two mags with no issues. It would have been faster, but I was taking my time since it was my first attempt and I was taking pics. Your jig IMO is best thing to hit the 80% AR market, I think your milling machines will be running 24/7 for a while The nicks on the side were due to my zero experience with a router |
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Just received my router jig kit in the mail yesterday and it looks sweet. I'll be experimenting on a Anderson lower this weekend!! Can't wait!!!
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How about a sweet introductory ARFCOM hook-a-brotha-up special along with a case of 5 lowers? View Quote Quoted:
Got my package in from 5D yesterday. Solid piece of craftsmanship. Now I just need my 80s to come in! View Quote Quoted:
Got my jig (ordered 12-19, shipped 1-8, said 3-4 weeks on site at order, so early side of promised), got my 80%'s, got my stuff set up... Just waiting on the damn router from Amazon, since I lack Prime and they like to delay shipping for days and days. View Quote Quoted:
What makes this better than the 80% Arms Easy Jig? View Quote - Our jigs are truly universal, and our AR-15 jig will also fit AR-9 80% lowers. An 80% lower mounts in the jig using the front takedown, rear takedown and buffer locations; the same places an upper receiver attaches. The side plates of our jig do not touch the lower, which prevents marring during assembly or use, and allows billet lowers with oversized exterior features to fit without interference. - We offer a custom designed 5/16" Hybrid End Mill which is thoroughly optimized for finishing 80% lowers with our jig and a handheld router. The end mill is 100% bearing supported at all times, which helps to reduce end mill deflection by effectively shortening the exposed length of the tool. This allows the user to safely mill faster, while also improving finished quality. - The end mill never touches the jig during milling. The milling portion of finishing the FCG pocket is guided by 3 sets of guide pins of varying length which follow the outline of FCG pocket shaped cavities in our jig's guide plate. Using these external guide cavities to trace the outline of the FCG pocket leaves a wide open area above the lower, allowing the user to see what he or she is doing and easily access the pocket to remove chips. There aren't any template plates that need to be switched out during use. - Only 2 holes need to be drilled prior to milling. We have determined that maximum finish quality and end mill life is achieved when fewer holes are drilled. Our milling process is so fast and easy, that drilling several holes to remove the bulk of material would be more time consuming and simply unnecessary. - We offer Jig Conversion Kits, which allows either of our jigs (AR-15 or AR-308) to be converted to the other while retaining/reusing jig components which are common to both versions of our jig. This means you can effectively purchase both versions of our Router Jig for much less $$ versus purchasing two complete jigs separately. - Our jigs are blue. - Our jigs never need to be completely disassembled. Once they have been assembled once, a lower can be swapped out in a matter of seconds. Only 3 screws and 2 quick release pins (included) need to be removed and reinstalled to switch out lowers. - The parts of the jig that come in contact with a drill bit, the drill guide and side plates, are solid steel. Replacement parts are available for sale on our website should you ever damage or wear out any of the parts. - Our jig is 100% Made in the USA and we stand behind all of our products. If you have an issue, or questions pertaining to any of our products, we have the best customer service in the industry to back them up! Please feel free to read more and watch some of our helpful videos on our website: 5DTactical.com |
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We will do something special for the ARFCOM faithful. Promise! View Quote I would be interested in a package that includes the AR-15 jig kit, tooling, and 2 forged 80% AR-15 lowers (anodized). Bonus if you offer a special that includes the AR-10 jig conversion parts and 2 forged 80% AR-10 lowers (anodized). The way your jig uses locating buttons instead of riding on the spinning tool seems vastly superior to me. I use the Mod heavy duty jig and already only drill the trigger hole and machine from that. |
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Looking forward to seeing what you offer for an ARFCOM special. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes I'm not, I already HAVE the jig. :-p The way your jig uses locating buttons instead of riding on the spinning tool seems vastly superior to me. I use the Mod heavy duty jig and already only drill the trigger hole and machine from that. When I saw the other jig, I sort of had the idea of using the pins like this one does and basically sat here waiting for the internet to deliver. When it did, I ordered one. All Hail the Internet, Provider of All Things! Only issue I have is that the drill stop collar doesn't actually fit on the drill bit. Pretty sure it won't make a huge difference since I'll just mark it off with tape, but I emailed them anyway just to check. |
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We will do something special for the ARFCOM faithful. Promise! Thanks for your business and kind words! New router, make sure the depth lock is tight! We aren't in the business of knocking a competitor's product, but we can certainly list all of the ways our jig is different than anything else on the market. You can decide... View Quote Thank you for the reply. |
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We will do something special for the ARFCOM faithful. Promise! View Quote I have the standard modulus jig and I am considering upgrading to their HD jig with the steel inserts. But now that you're in the market with this product.... If you can offer the jig with end mill drill bits and stop for $200 shipped I'm in! Do you offer replacement parts, like side plates and drilling guides? What's the expected life of your endmills ....How many lowers can you get out of one end mill without chatter issues and such? Thanks! |
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I have the standard modulus jig and I am considering upgrading to their HD jig with the steel inserts. But now that you're in the market with this product.... If you can offer the jig with end mill drill bits and stop for $200 shipped I'm in! Do you offer replacement parts, like side plates and drilling guides? What's the expected life of your endmills ....How many lowers can you get out of one end mill without chatter issues and such? Thanks! View Quote http://www.5dtactical.com/jig-replacement-parts-s/108.htm |
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I've been on the fence about milling my own lower, but I believe I'm going for it now
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5D sent me the drill stop, should be here soon. I went ahead and marked off the depth with some tape and drilled my first "test" lower anyway, worked fine. Waiting on another piece before trying the router cutting.
Drilling was tedious, I can't imagine drilling 20 holes or whatnot. :) To 5D, I see you guys offer an 80%, but I prefer basic types, any plans to offer just regular lowers rather than finger groove stuff? |
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I have the standard modulus jig and I am considering upgrading to their HD jig with the steel inserts. But now that you're in the market with this product.... If you can offer the jig with end mill drill bits and stop for $200 shipped I'm in! Do you offer replacement parts, like side plates and drilling guides? What's the expected life of your endmills ....How many lowers can you get out of one end mill without chatter issues and such? Thanks! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I have the standard modulus jig and I am considering upgrading to their HD jig with the steel inserts. But now that you're in the market with this product.... If you can offer the jig with end mill drill bits and stop for $200 shipped I'm in! Do you offer replacement parts, like side plates and drilling guides? What's the expected life of your endmills ....How many lowers can you get out of one end mill without chatter issues and such? Thanks! Yes, we offer replacement parts. If you ever manage to wear out or damage any of the jig parts, you can buy them separately on our website. Our end mills are expected to last 3-6 lowers. We have several customers who have finished 6-10 lowers on 1 end mill, so we are conservative with our estimates. Quoted:
5D sent me the drill stop, should be here soon. I went ahead and marked off the depth with some tape and drilled my first "test" lower anyway, worked fine. Waiting on another piece before trying the router cutting. Drilling was tedious, I can't imagine drilling 20 holes or whatnot. :) To 5D, I see you guys offer an 80%, but I prefer basic types, any plans to offer just regular lowers rather than finger groove stuff? As a matter of fact, yes. We will be launching a new billet 80% lower in just a couple of weeks. It's a more traditional, Mil-Spec inspired design. We think everyone will be very pleased with the price point as well. Stay tuned. |
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I have to ask, are sales crazy now? everyone I see in the 80% pages on here and facebook are wanting one of your jigs.
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I have to ask, are sales crazy now? everyone I see in the 80% pages on here and facebook are wanting one of your jigs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I have to ask, are sales crazy now? everyone I see in the 80% pages on here and facebook are wanting one of your jigs. We're very grateful for the enthusiasm surrounding our product. Quoted:
Might just have to get into the 80% lower game now :D I think it's time. |
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Broke down and placed my order tonight! I have a couple 80% receivers waiting to go. Might have to fill out a couple more.
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If I can sell this new unused 80 Percent Arms kit and unused bits I will be ordering from you guys. I want the kit and the custom drill bit + drill bits. I'm sold! (Now I got to get to selling.) Searched for discount codes just because lol. Judge not...
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I'm going to have to jump in on this next payday.
Looks awesome. |
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I ordered mine today, I usually don't get too excited about things, however...........
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''- Our jigs are blue. ''
Blue? BLUE, you say? Well, why I have I not sent my money already? I used to build muzzleloaders, so I totally fall in line with the "personal satisfaction" argument. Thing is, I own at least eight routers already, most of them at least 1 HP. Might be tough for me to justify buying another one. I find that I'm warming up to the idea of finishing my own lower, though. |
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What speed did you have your router running?
I plan on getting the DeWalt with the variable speed. Thanks! |
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What speed did you have your router running? I plan on getting the DeWalt with the variable speed. Thanks! View Quote After each pass is done i slow it down to one, turn it off and remove it. I didn't do this one my first lower and the router got away from me and scratch the inside of the pocket |
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Thanks Again for the info.
I have a couple polymer 80 lowers in addition to the TM's, should FLY through the poly. |
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Well finished another today, came out great. I am still slow it took me a bit over a hour, but I am pleased with the results. Your Jig kicks ass BTW! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/IMG-0756-132971.jpg View Quote AWESOME job man! That looks flawless. |
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Well finished another today, came out great. I am still slow it took me a bit over a hour, but I am pleased with the results. Your Jig kicks ass BTW! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/IMG-0756-132971.jpg AWESOME job man! That looks flawless. The jig makes it simple. |
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We're anxiously awaiting what you've got for us! My gun room will soon be finished and I'll need a jig for my projects. The new billet 80%'s look great by the way, simple and stylish. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
We're anxiously awaiting what you've got for us! My gun room will soon be finished and I'll need a jig for my projects. The new billet 80%'s look great by the way, simple and stylish. Thank you, we put considerable thought and effort into the deign of our new billet 80% AR-15 lower. Quoted:
Jig looks great! What's the current backorder timeline? As of today, 3-4 weeks possibly sooner. Thanks! |
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Thank you, we put considerable thought and effort into the deign of our new billet 80% AR-15 lower. As of today, 3-4 weeks possibly sooner. Thanks! View Quote Went to your site to order one last night and saw that. Bummer. Think I'll call you guys on Monday and make sure I get exactly what I want. Ed |
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I ordered your jig about 4 weeks ago - so still waiting ...
But looking forward to getting the email that says it shipped. I tried another "highly rated" jig before I bought it, the idea of the end mill riding in a guide and essentially having no easy way to see inside or being able to get chips out made it a non starter for me. I wanted a nice job so I was blowing it out constantly and checking the piece constantly. Not only did it take a long time, it was frustrating. For those who have never worked with aluminum, if you don't clear the chips often the aluminum can actually embed itself back into the work. Then you have a mess or least a poor part when done. Just that aspect of your design, not to mention the "no-touch" end mill to jig is so much better IMO I cannot wait to get it. A couple questions, do you suggest using A-9 or WD as a lubricant to help end mill life? I know you cannot suggest speeds due to Router differences, but it seems to me you can give a range? I went ahead and bought the PC 6435 Router ... Thanks for the great router choice write up! |
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I got my email yesturday that my jig has shipped. I hope I can find time this weekend to put it to use.
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I ordered your jig about 4 weeks ago - so still waiting ... But looking forward to getting the email that says it shipped. I tried another "highly rated" jig before I bought it, the idea of the end mill riding in a guide and essentially having no easy way to see inside or being able to get chips out made it a non starter for me. I wanted a nice job so I was blowing it out constantly and checking the piece constantly. Not only did it take a long time, it was frustrating. For those who have never worked with aluminum, if you don't clear the chips often the aluminum can actually embed itself back into the work. Then you have a mess or least a poor part when done. Just that aspect of your design, not to mention the "no-touch" end mill to jig is so much better IMO I cannot wait to get it. A couple questions, do you suggest using A-9 or WD as a lubricant to help end mill life? I know you cannot suggest speeds due to Router differences, but it seems to me you can give a range? I went ahead and bought the PC 6435 Router ... Thanks for the great router choice write up! View Quote Quick follow up Received my email weds and jig showed up last night. 5D met their projected ship date right on - I appreciate that I have to say I am NOT disappointed. This is a precision quality tool. Fit and finish are perfect. Professional appearance of packaging as well. Router jig kit was also impressive. Custom drills and end mill are well finished and sharp and reasonably priced for the quality Just wish I ordered a spare end mill as I feel I will like using this jig I have been through the video and the instructions a couple times and it looks like WD40 is going to be my choice of lubricant for milling I will put it to work today and post the results |
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My jig came on Monday and it is awesome. I've finished two lowers and intend to order another end mill (or two). Are there any other parts that wear that I might want to order with the extra end mill? Thanks! http://www.pbase.com/osucowboy8/image/164992852/large.jpg View Quote |
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Getting more excited than a kid at Christmas.
I ordered mine 24-JAN-17. |
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Thank you. I'd have to say much of the credit goes to 5DT. Their jig makes it easy. View Quote You asked about parts, I got two extra endmills and im gonna order 2 extra bearings. I cant see anything else wearing out except the side plates if your not good the keeping the drill bit straight. |
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This is the best jig I've seen to date. Congrats on the release and I look forward to using one in the near future.
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Received my shipping notice yesterday, 4 weeks to the day since I ordered it.
Off to Lowes for the DeWalt variable speed router. WOO HOO!!!!!!!! |
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