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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:05:01 PM EDT
Palmetto state Armory is proud to announce the newest addition to our Freedom line: the Freedom Hammer Forged Nitride M4 Rifle kit!
The PSA Freedom series has earned a reputation as a reliable and affordable option for the AR15 platform. Now the durability and accuracy of a hammer forged barrel is available in the Freedom line of uppers. Barrel: 16" 4150V Chrome moly vanadium steel, hammer forged and nitride finished for accuracy and durability. Chambered in 5.56 NATO, with a 1:7 twist, M4 barrel extension, and a carbine-length gas system. Barrel is is finished off with classic carbine-length handguards, F-Marked gas sight base, and A2 flash hider. Upper: Forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper is made to MIL-SPECS and hard coat anodized black for durability. Featuring machined T marks, and a mil-spec finish. These uppers are made for us right here in the USA by a mil-spec manufacturer. Bolt Carrier Group: High pressure tested and mag particle inspected, shot-peened carpenter 158 steel bolt, phosphate finished. 8620 steel, heavy profile steel carrier, chrome lined and phosphate coated. Chrome lined and phosphate coated gas key is properly staked with grade 8 bolts. Includes charging handle. Lower Build Kit: Includes Mil-Spec classic stock, A2 grip, and Palmetto State Armory Freedom Lower Parts Kit and Mil-Spec diameter buffer tube assembly. Everything you need to finish your stripped lower! Click here to purchase 
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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:26:37 PM EDT
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Wow. Looks cool.
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Posted: 9/17/2016 2:49:57 AM EDT
[#2]
Yawn. Let me know when the middy version come out (No interest in the idiotic M4 carbine "m203 notch" cut barrel). Actually.. let me know when the pencil middy version come out.
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Posted: 9/18/2016 10:23:52 AM EDT
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What he said. ^
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Posted: 9/18/2016 3:38:08 PM EDT
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Yawn. Let me know when the middy version come out (No interest in the idiotic M4 carbine "m203 notch" cut barrel). Actually.. let me know when the pencil middy version come out. Agreed. Zero interest in M4 profile, but would love to see the middy pencil in a hammer forged nitrided |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 7:57:29 PM EDT
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Yawn. Let me know when the middy version come out (No interest in the idiotic M4 carbine "m203 notch" cut barrel). Actually.. let me know when the pencil middy version come out. With a nitride bcg and fire control. 
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Posted: 9/19/2016 7:08:46 PM EDT
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Agreed. Zero interest in M4 profile, but would love to see the middy pencil in a hammer forged nitrided Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yawn. Let me know when the middy version come out (No interest in the idiotic M4 carbine "m203 notch" cut barrel). Actually.. let me know when the pencil middy version come out. Agreed. Zero interest in M4 profile, but would love to see the middy pencil in a hammer forged nitrided Yeah baby! 16 inch middie, skinny barrel. Melonite bcg and fire control group would be great. I'd buy one of those barrels in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 9/20/2016 8:53:07 PM EDT
[#7]
I got one of these delivered this week.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-223-wylde-midlength-1-7-lightweight-mlok-upper-no-bcg-or-ch.html |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 7:07:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Thank you PSA !
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Posted: 9/27/2016 6:34:51 PM EDT
[#9]
Is the barrel in this kit a step down from the cold hammer forged barrels in other uppers I see advertised on PSAs site? Some say cold hammer forged, vs. hammer forged.
Some also say machine gun steel vs. this barrel which is chrome vandium. |
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Posted: 10/1/2016 4:22:04 AM EDT
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Is the barrel in this kit a step down from the cold hammer forged barrels in other uppers I see advertised on PSAs site? Some say cold hammer forged, vs. hammer forged. Some also say machine gun steel vs. this barrel which is chrome vandium. Chrome Vandium (CMV ChromeMoly Vandium) is 4150. Good stuff. FN will not disclose what their "machine gun steel" is (proprietary), but 4150 would be a safe bet for it. PSA's (this) version is different as it's not a chrome lined CHF barrel... it's a nitride CHF barrel (first I've heard of). Nitride surface hardens the steel (which accounts for the wear resistance), but PSA is CHF'ing theirs which would provide both surface hardening, AND through hardening (via the CHF process). Is it better?... probably not, unless you use your barrel as a pry bar (since only surface and bore hardening matter for shooting, but through hardening would increase overall barrel strength for ?).... but any added durability is a good thing for consumers. But again... M4 barrel?? So last decade. Little interest. Midlength pencil is where it's at these days. People are tired of the "Gov't profile" with it's useless front heavy profile (let alone the ridiculous M4 profile barrel), and have (finally) woken up to midlength pencil (the original design) barrels. I applaud PSA for it's innovation (combining CHF with Nitride is covering all bases), but skip the 90's stuff and get straight to the midlength pencil. 
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Posted: 10/6/2016 9:19:23 PM EDT
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^^ Thx for the explanation!
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Posted: 10/7/2016 12:58:38 PM EDT
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Palmetto state Armory is proud to announce the newest addition to our Freedom line: the Freedom Hammer Forged Nitride M4 Rifle kit! The PSA Freedom series has earned a reputation as a reliable and affordable option for the AR15 platform. Now the durability and accuracy of a hammer forged barrel is available in the Freedom line of uppers. Barrel: 16" 4150V Chrome moly vanadium steel, hammer forged and nitride finished for accuracy and durability. Chambered in 5.56 NATO, with a 1:7 twist, M4 barrel extension, and a carbine-length gas system. Barrel is is finished off with classic carbine-length handguards, F-Marked gas sight base, and A2 flash hider. Upper: Forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper is made to MIL-SPECS and hard coat anodized black for durability. Featuring machined T marks, and a mil-spec finish. These uppers are made for us right here in the USA by a mil-spec manufacturer. Bolt Carrier Group: High pressure tested and mag particle inspected, shot-peened carpenter 158 steel bolt, phosphate finished. 8620 steel, heavy profile steel carrier, chrome lined and phosphate coated. Chrome lined and phosphate coated gas key is properly staked with grade 8 bolts. Includes charging handle. Lower Build Kit: Includes Mil-Spec classic stock, A2 grip, and Palmetto State Armory Freedom Lower Parts Kit and Mil-Spec diameter buffer tube assembly. Everything you need to finish your stripped lower! Click here to purchase http://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/370x370/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/7/7/77932416.jpg Let me know when you have it in 14.5 |
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Posted: 10/8/2016 10:28:52 PM EDT
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Let me know when you have it in 14.5 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Palmetto state Armory is proud to announce the newest addition to our Freedom line: the Freedom Hammer Forged Nitride M4 Rifle kit! The PSA Freedom series has earned a reputation as a reliable and affordable option for the AR15 platform. Now the durability and accuracy of a hammer forged barrel is available in the Freedom line of uppers. Barrel: 16" 4150V Chrome moly vanadium steel, hammer forged and nitride finished for accuracy and durability. Chambered in 5.56 NATO, with a 1:7 twist, M4 barrel extension, and a carbine-length gas system. Barrel is is finished off with classic carbine-length handguards, F-Marked gas sight base, and A2 flash hider. Upper: Forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper is made to MIL-SPECS and hard coat anodized black for durability. Featuring machined T marks, and a mil-spec finish. These uppers are made for us right here in the USA by a mil-spec manufacturer. Bolt Carrier Group: High pressure tested and mag particle inspected, shot-peened carpenter 158 steel bolt, phosphate finished. 8620 steel, heavy profile steel carrier, chrome lined and phosphate coated. Chrome lined and phosphate coated gas key is properly staked with grade 8 bolts. Includes charging handle. Lower Build Kit: Includes Mil-Spec classic stock, A2 grip, and Palmetto State Armory Freedom Lower Parts Kit and Mil-Spec diameter buffer tube assembly. Everything you need to finish your stripped lower! Click here to purchase http://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/370x370/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/7/7/77932416.jpg Let me know when you have it in 14.5 14.7", since then they can use a standard A2 birdcage. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 2:57:43 PM EDT
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Chrome Vandium (CMV ChromeMoly Vandium) is 4150. Good stuff. FN will not disclose what their "machine gun steel" is (proprietary), but 4150 would be a safe bet for it. PSA's (this) version is different as it's not a chrome lined CHF barrel... it's a nitride CHF barrel (first I've heard of). Nitride surface hardens the steel (which accounts for the wear resistance), but PSA is CHF'ing theirs which would provide both surface hardening, AND through hardening (via the CHF process). Is it better?... probably not, unless you use your barrel as a pry bar (since only surface and bore hardening matter for shooting, but through hardening would increase overall barrel strength for ?).... but any added durability is a good thing for consumers. But again... M4 barrel?? So last decade. Little interest. Midlength pencil is where it's at these days. People are tired of the "Gov't profile" with it's useless front heavy profile (let alone the ridiculous M4 profile barrel), and have (finally) woken up to midlength pencil (the original design) barrels. I applaud PSA for it's innovation (combining CHF with Nitride is covering all bases), but skip the 90's stuff and get straight to the midlength pencil. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the barrel in this kit a step down from the cold hammer forged barrels in other uppers I see advertised on PSAs site? Some say cold hammer forged, vs. hammer forged. Some also say machine gun steel vs. this barrel which is chrome vandium. Chrome Vandium (CMV ChromeMoly Vandium) is 4150. Good stuff. FN will not disclose what their "machine gun steel" is (proprietary), but 4150 would be a safe bet for it. PSA's (this) version is different as it's not a chrome lined CHF barrel... it's a nitride CHF barrel (first I've heard of). Nitride surface hardens the steel (which accounts for the wear resistance), but PSA is CHF'ing theirs which would provide both surface hardening, AND through hardening (via the CHF process). Is it better?... probably not, unless you use your barrel as a pry bar (since only surface and bore hardening matter for shooting, but through hardening would increase overall barrel strength for ?).... but any added durability is a good thing for consumers. But again... M4 barrel?? So last decade. Little interest. Midlength pencil is where it's at these days. People are tired of the "Gov't profile" with it's useless front heavy profile (let alone the ridiculous M4 profile barrel), and have (finally) woken up to midlength pencil (the original design) barrels. I applaud PSA for it's innovation (combining CHF with Nitride is covering all bases), but skip the 90's stuff and get straight to the midlength pencil. I think LWRC has been CHFing nitriding for a very long time. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 3:04:37 PM EDT
[#15]
Another vote for mid- length pencil
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Posted: 10/21/2016 6:01:58 PM EDT
[#16]
Let me know if you need a review
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Posted: 10/21/2016 6:29:09 PM EDT
[#17]
You guys absolutely Blow Me Away. The price of your AR kits - inflation adjusted, is 1/3 what I've paid for comparable quality (at best) when I got into the game (inflation adjusted). You are a public service.
I will echo what many others have said here. A pinned Carbine 14.7 is past due. Well past due. |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 1:58:50 PM EDT
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You guys absolutely Blow Me Away. The price of your AR kits - inflation adjusted, is 1/3 what I've paid for comparable quality (at best) when I got into the game (inflation adjusted). You are a public service. I will echo what many others have said here. A pinned Carbine 14.7 is past due. Well past due. here here. I never see pinned 14.7 on there anymore |
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Posted: 10/26/2016 3:18:33 AM EDT
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here here. I never see pinned 14.7 on there anymore Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You guys absolutely Blow Me Away. The price of your AR kits - inflation adjusted, is 1/3 what I've paid for comparable quality (at best) when I got into the game (inflation adjusted). You are a public service. I will echo what many others have said here. A pinned Carbine 14.7 is past due. Well past due. here here. I never see pinned 14.7 on there anymore There is a pinned 14.7 on their website as of this moment. |
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Posted: 10/26/2016 12:16:43 PM EDT
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There is a pinned 14.7 on their website as of this moment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You guys absolutely Blow Me Away. The price of your AR kits - inflation adjusted, is 1/3 what I've paid for comparable quality (at best) when I got into the game (inflation adjusted). You are a public service. I will echo what many others have said here. A pinned Carbine 14.7 is past due. Well past due. here here. I never see pinned 14.7 on there anymore There is a pinned 14.7 on their website as of this moment. Not the CHF M4 profile |
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Posted: 10/30/2016 10:49:32 AM EDT
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Let me know if you need a review Nice... |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 9:03:37 PM EDT
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I think LWRC has been CHFing nitriding for a very long time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the barrel in this kit a step down from the cold hammer forged barrels in other uppers I see advertised on PSAs site? Some say cold hammer forged, vs. hammer forged. Some also say machine gun steel vs. this barrel which is chrome vandium. Chrome Vandium (CMV ChromeMoly Vandium) is 4150. Good stuff. FN will not disclose what their "machine gun steel" is (proprietary), but 4150 would be a safe bet for it. PSA's (this) version is different as it's not a chrome lined CHF barrel... it's a nitride CHF barrel (first I've heard of). Nitride surface hardens the steel (which accounts for the wear resistance), but PSA is CHF'ing theirs which would provide both surface hardening, AND through hardening (via the CHF process). Is it better?... probably not, unless you use your barrel as a pry bar (since only surface and bore hardening matter for shooting, but through hardening would increase overall barrel strength for ?).... but any added durability is a good thing for consumers. But again... M4 barrel?? So last decade. Little interest. Midlength pencil is where it's at these days. People are tired of the "Gov't profile" with it's useless front heavy profile (let alone the ridiculous M4 profile barrel), and have (finally) woken up to midlength pencil (the original design) barrels. I applaud PSA for it's innovation (combining CHF with Nitride is covering all bases), but skip the 90's stuff and get straight to the midlength pencil. I think LWRC has been CHFing nitriding for a very long time. Daniel Defense offered nitrided CHF barrels at one point. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 9:07:34 PM EDT
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Yawn. Let me know when the middy version come out (No interest in the idiotic M4 carbine "m203 notch" cut barrel). Actually.. let me know when the pencil middy version come out. This. Unless you are throwing in the 203 with it. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 11:37:00 PM EDT
[#24]
Agreed, I would like a middy also
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Posted: 1/28/2017 4:11:07 AM EDT
[#25]
I see you now offer a 14.7 middy CHF/Nitride Gov't barrel (great!), but will you offer a 16" CHF/Nitride middy PENCIL barrel? That's the one I (and I'm sure, many others) are waiting for.
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Posted: 1/28/2017 11:06:28 AM EDT
[#26]
There are, I think, 2 different 14.7" uppers.
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