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Posted: 3/26/2016 12:39:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/26/2016 10:04:25 AM EDT
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So not really a PDW stock but just a stock? If I'm reading correctly it mounts to a MIL-SPEC tube?
 



ETA:  Didn't want to come off as negative about a new product.  Just saying that it's only as compact as a standard mil spec stock.  Just has the look and feel of a PDW stock.  At any rate...I kinda dig the look of it and also like the fact that I wouldn't have to worry about any odd parts or buffer systems that mess with reliabilty.  
Link Posted: 3/26/2016 11:29:30 AM EDT
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exactly how i read it.
Link Posted: 3/26/2016 1:33:17 PM EDT
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How much does it weigh?
Link Posted: 3/26/2016 2:48:07 PM EDT
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Is this the same stock?
Link Posted: 3/26/2016 2:49:28 PM EDT
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13.5 oz according to another online vendor
Link Posted: 3/26/2016 6:31:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/26/2016 7:43:03 PM EDT
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Yeah but can it be mounted HERE??????:



Link Posted: 3/26/2016 10:13:15 PM EDT
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nvm
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 4:32:21 PM EDT
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What tube is that?
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 5:33:13 PM EDT
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What tube is that?


I think that's the tube for the LWRC ultra compact stock
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 5:50:38 PM EDT
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I do believe I recognize that picture. I was thinking the same thing when I saw it mounts on standard mil spec tubes.

 



It would let you get that pdw look while still using a stock bcg.
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 6:18:03 PM EDT
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Can we get a picture of it mounted on a standard carbine 6 position buffer tube (receiver extension) ?
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 8:52:27 PM EDT
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I do believe I recognize that picture. I was thinking the same thing when I saw it mounts on standard mil spec tubes.  

It would let you get that pdw look while still using a stock bcg.
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I do believe I recognize that picture. I was thinking the same thing when I saw it mounts on standard mil spec tubes.  

It would let you get that pdw look while still using a stock bcg.


I bet you do, LOL!!!

Honestly, on a MilSpec tube is not shorter that my CAR stock so it would be a "looks" only deal. However if it works with the LWRC UCIW tube the that's nice b/c it could be shorter and still use your BCG for a fraction of what NEA, TROY, MVB etc charge.
Link Posted: 3/28/2016 6:10:04 PM EDT
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Must be, look at the jacket.
Link Posted: 3/29/2016 1:37:10 AM EDT
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I bet you do, LOL!!!

Honestly, on a MilSpec tube is not shorter that my CAR stock so it would be a "looks" only deal. However if it works with the LWRC UCIW tube the that's nice b/c it could be shorter and still use your BCG for a fraction of what NEA, TROY, MVB etc charge.
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I do believe I recognize that picture. I was thinking the same thing when I saw it mounts on standard mil spec tubes.  

It would let you get that pdw look while still using a stock bcg.


I bet you do, LOL!!!

Honestly, on a MilSpec tube is not shorter that my CAR stock so it would be a "looks" only deal. However if it works with the LWRC UCIW tube the that's nice b/c it could be shorter and still use your BCG for a fraction of what NEA, TROY, MVB etc charge.

The Troy and NEA aren't really that expensive when you consider they not only include the buffer tube and buffer system, but also the BCG.  The MVB is pretty pricey since you have to supply your own BCG.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 4:10:57 PM EDT
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I received my stock today, but there is some back and forth movement of the stock itself, not on the buffer tube, which is as solid as a rock. It happens on every position, and is enough to be distracting. I've ensured every Allen screw is tight, but not too tight. I've tried everything, if this is normal I don't know if it is something I can live with, if it isn't I'd appreciate a fix. Thanks.





I admit the stock is aesthetically pleasing, and the cheek weld feels great. Other than the above issue, I really like this stock.

 
Link Posted: 4/24/2016 11:36:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/25/2016 5:02:40 AM EDT
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Any qd sling mounts on it? How would use it with a sling?
Link Posted: 4/25/2016 6:11:09 PM EDT
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There is a QD mount at the bottom, inside of the stock pad. It works great with my Gear Sector 2 point sling.
Link Posted: 4/25/2016 8:46:52 PM EDT
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Pics?
Link Posted: 4/25/2016 10:54:11 PM EDT
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There is a QD mount at the bottom, inside of the stock pad. It works great with my Gear Sector 2 point sling.

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The best I could do without prep (and Photobucket is down). Quentin Defense U.S. Army lower, 10.5" upper. The grip is only pushed in place (without pin & spring), because I'm still deciding on which grip is best Miad or Moe+. Just explaining why the safety is not positioned



in the right place.










 
 
Link Posted: 4/26/2016 2:44:35 AM EDT
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Thank you. How  do you like it?

Would this work on the VLTOR A5 tubes?
Link Posted: 4/26/2016 3:19:23 AM EDT
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Thank you. How  do you like it?



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For the price, it's a very good stock, although it is not a true PDW stock. It mounts solid on the receiver extension, no doubt about that. It looks better than the usual polymer stocks on the market.



I'm sure it would fit the VLTOR tube, although it would be slightly longer than that of a regular lower receiver extension. I do want to try the shorter extension that the LMT or LWRC UCIW uses. I'm contemplating going with an NEA type stock on my 8.5" SBR though, to get the true PDW effect for the 8.5" SBR. This just goes to show that you must have more than one AR15 SBR.



 
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 8:30:00 AM EDT
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Did you ever get an answer about the movement when locked into each position?

Also, an answer on whether or not it will fit the shorter LWRC tube?
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 7:10:11 PM EDT
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There's very slight horizontal movement in each position, it's enough to feel during recoil. The manufacturer stated it was normal movement, necessary to allow each position to unlock.





The problem that I'm not happy with; is that the charging handle, in my case a BCM Gunfighter Mod 3 hit's the lip of the riser that holds the dual position rods in place. I've tried every way I know of to pull the charging handle to try to rise above the lip, but it's very hit and miss. I'm going to have to Dremel a recess in the BCM CH. The AXTS Raptor does hit it a small amount, but it does rise above the lip. It sucks to have to spend $80.00+ to fix a problem that doesn't need to exist. Maybe a mil-spec CH might work great, but I don't even own one. All mine are either BCM or a AXTS.





With these two problems, I wish I would have sent it back. But, I've already committed to keeping it.





One thing that bothers me is that some dealers on AR15.com do not try the products that they announce & sell in this forum. I look to them as second line subject matter experts. When I first called about the movement issue, I was told they had no experience with this product, and told me to contact the manufacturer. I think that's a pretty sorry excuse, but what do I know I just buy the stuff before I get a chance to try it. This is not a hit on Rainier Arms, you'd think the manufacturer would have worked with Rainier Arms to make sure they supplied them a 100% working product for testing.

 
Link Posted: 5/28/2016 2:21:06 PM EDT
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Does it interface with only standard end plate or will it accomodate QD end plates?  
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 1:34:45 PM EDT
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Wasn't sure if this was ever definitively answered but it appears that it will.








This is the receiver extension from the LWRC UCIW stock with the XPDW stock.  Obviously it retains the short buffer that comes with the UCIW kit.

Link Posted: 6/5/2016 4:01:02 AM EDT
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what is stopping it from sitting flush with the receiver? as seen in other pictures

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Wasn't sure if this was ever definitively answered but it appears that it will.


<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mcaboll/media/IMG_1464_zpslkyedr4t.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/mcaboll/IMG_1464_zpslkyedr4t.jpg</a>

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This is the receiver extension from the LWRC UCIW stock with the XPDW stock.  Obviously it retains the short buffer that comes with the UCIW kit.

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Wasn't sure if this was ever definitively answered but it appears that it will.


<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mcaboll/media/IMG_1464_zpslkyedr4t.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/mcaboll/IMG_1464_zpslkyedr4t.jpg</a>

<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mcaboll/media/IMG_1463_zpsfpw49fab.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/mcaboll/IMG_1463_zpsfpw49fab.jpg</a>



This is the receiver extension from the LWRC UCIW stock with the XPDW stock.  Obviously it retains the short buffer that comes with the UCIW kit.


Link Posted: 6/5/2016 12:10:36 PM EDT
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Wasn't sure if this was ever definitively answered but it appears that it will.




Nothing at all.  Sorry about that.  I was playing around with not pushing it flush to the receiver to still have access to my QD swivel when I snapped the pics.  Decided against that since the small bolt would be taking the brunt of recoil instead of the whole stock.









<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mcaboll/media/IMG_1464_zpslkyedr4t.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/mcaboll/IMG_1464_zpslkyedr4t.jpg</a>

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This is the receiver extension from the LWRC UCIW stock with the XPDW stock.  Obviously it retains the short buffer that comes with the UCIW kit.



Link Posted: 6/5/2016 5:32:02 PM EDT
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Looks good, might have to give this a try

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Wasn't sure if this was ever definitively answered but it appears that it will.




Nothing at all.  Sorry about that.  I was playing around with not pushing it flush to the receiver to still have access to my QD swivel when I snapped the pics.  Decided against that since the small bolt would be taking the brunt of recoil instead of the whole stock.



<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mcaboll/media/IMG_1468_zpsmnougquz.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/mcaboll/IMG_1468_zpsmnougquz.jpg</a>


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This is the receiver extension from the LWRC UCIW stock with the XPDW stock.  Obviously it retains the short buffer that comes with the UCIW kit.




Link Posted: 6/11/2016 1:51:18 PM EDT
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Just picked one of these up at the LGS. They had it for 149.95. Kind of expensive for just a stock. But, the plan is to buy the lwrc uciw shorter tube and take full advantage of the length.

Seems to be very well made but, like mentioned above, it has the slightest rattle in the locked positions. I could see how that could get annoying. I plan on shooting it tomorrow and will report back if the rattle drives me nuts. For now, I like it. Hoping I really like it with the shorter tube. Armaspec could have a real winner if they start putting these together with a shorter buffer tube/buffer of their own. Even with the lwrc purchase, I'll be into this for around 250 and get to use my own BCG that I trust.

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Just picked one of these up at the LGS. They had it for 149.95. Kind of expensive for just a stock. But, the plan is to buy the lwrc uciw shorter tube and take full advantage of the length.



Seems to be very well made but, like mentioned above, it has the slightest rattle in the locked positions. I could see how that could get annoying. I plan on shooting it tomorrow and will report back if the rattle drives me nuts. For now, I like it. Hoping I really like it with the shorter tube. Armaspec could have a real winner if they start putting these together with a shorter buffer tube/buffer of their own. Even with the lwrc purchase, I'll be into this for around 250 and get to use my own BCG that I trust.



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What kind of charging handle are you using, and does it come in contact with the raised hump on the stock?



 
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 10:20:19 AM EDT
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Just picked one of these up at the LGS. They had it for 149.95. Kind of expensive for just a stock. But, the plan is to buy the lwrc uciw shorter tube and take full advantage of the length.

Seems to be very well made but, like mentioned above, it has the slightest rattle in the locked positions. I could see how that could get annoying. I plan on shooting it tomorrow and will report back if the rattle drives me nuts. For now, I like it. Hoping I really like it with the shorter tube. Armaspec could have a real winner if they start putting these together with a shorter buffer tube/buffer of their own. Even with the lwrc purchase, I'll be into this for around 250 and get to use my own BCG that I trust.

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What kind of charging handle are you using, and does it come in contact with the raised hump on the stock?
 

It's just a standard CH that I added the tactical latch to. No problems with it hitting anywhere.

As an aside, I have since shot this thing a bunch with this set up and I like it. It's ice and compact with good cheek weld and the rattle that I was worried about is non-existent when shooting. Still just the standard buffer tube on there as I have other wants before buying the LWRC kit to get a shorter tube. But, I like it. Very well constructed. Hoping that moving forward more companies start making these and that will help to drive the prices down a little.
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