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Posted: 10/11/2015 11:02:29 AM EDT

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You will have no issues mounting a bi-pod. Plenty strong enough .
Troy
MI

Posted: 10/11/2015 9:26:12 PM EDT

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The ears on the torque plate will not allow a vice block to fit the upper.

Not really a big deal as the vice block is only used for installing the barrel nut and nothing else on the upper.

Once the barrel nut is torqued up the upper comes out of the vise block for everything else.
Thank You

Andy

MI

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Any confirmation on if the ears will affect vice blocks?

The ears on the torque plate will not allow a vice block to fit the upper.

Not really a big deal as the vice block is only used for installing the barrel nut and nothing else on the upper.

Once the barrel nut is torqued up the upper comes out of the vise block for everything else.
Thank You

Andy

MI

Mine actually still fits in my ( I think it was Wheeler brand) clamshell style upper vise block, I just have to make sure it's as far "forward" as it can go before I tighten it down in the vise. It's a close fit but it worked for me. I did the complete install with it (didn't have BEV Block yet). The torque plate was close but it clears.

Posted: 10/13/2015 10:24:06 AM EDT

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On the DPMS and Mag-Pul BEV block, the Gen 3 fit just fine UNLESS the torque plate was not fully seated. On the one upper where the torque plate would not go around the upper, it would also not allow the upper to seat fully on the DPMS two-pin upper holder or the BEV block. But once the torque plate was modified so it would go around the out of spec BCM blemmed upper, the BEV block and DPMS units fit perfectly. On the other upper, AP I think, everything fit perfectly and nothing needed any mods.

Posted: 10/17/2015 9:25:18 AM EDT

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Still waiting for the G3 Lightweight ML-Series M-LOK™ in 12 Inch Rifle to become available.

Posted: 10/17/2015 3:38:46 PM EDT

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I want to buy 15 inch long. My setup will be 20 inch heavy SS barrel, with MI 15" rail and atlas bipod with 1913 mount (I already have it). To attach bipod I need M-Lok rail piece on bottom of rail, which I have also - Magpul M-Lok aluminum rail section.
Is M-Lok attachment pretty solid to withstand recoil?

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I use a bipod on and off my MI Gen 3 rail all the time, no problems with anything getting loose or anything else.

Posted: 10/26/2015 12:14:19 AM EDT

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I heard next batch began shipping last Friday.

Posted: 11/1/2015 1:19:19 PM EDT

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Any ETA on 10" M-LOK regular weight version?

Had my LGS check stock yesterday and none were in stock.

Thanks, love your products.

Posted: 11/5/2015 9:55:11 AM EDT

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I am looking for the regular 15" in black. Can you confirm if this is in stock?

Posted: 11/5/2015 10:12:28 AM EDT

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I am looking for the regular 15" in black. Can you confirm if this is in stock?

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Yes
Troy
MI

Posted: 11/5/2015 7:40:54 PM EDT

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Posted: 11/7/2015 10:45:33 AM EDT

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Still jonesing for a 10.5 inch light weight Keymod FDE G3. It's too cold now to Duracoat so the window has closed on coating a black one unless I jerry-rig something for spraying inside the basement.

Posted: 11/10/2015 3:37:51 PM EDT

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Troy, can you tell me dimension under barrel?

Bought Syrac Ordnance gen II adj. gas block. According Syrac's web page, block is .238 below barrel contour.

Thanks.

Posted: 11/14/2015 11:14:26 PM EDT

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Troy
MI

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I am looking for the regular 15" in black. Can you confirm if this is in stock?

Yes
Troy
MI

Just put one on order.

Posted: 11/15/2015 8:57:31 AM EDT

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Just put one on order.

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I am looking for the regular 15" in black. Can you confirm if this is in stock?

Yes
Troy
MI

Just put one on order.

Thank you. You will love it.
Troy
MI

Posted: 11/16/2015 7:38:55 PM EDT

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Ya-HOOOOO! The 10.5 inch G3 LW Keymod FDE is listed and order is PLACED! Merry Christmas to ME! Also the 9.x Keymod LW G3 is listed in FDE now also for anyone who is interested.

Posted: 11/16/2015 10:36:06 PM EDT

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Great handguard guys! Just finished another 6.5 Grendel build for a friend with one, the 15", which turned out nice on a 16" barrel.

I FDE Cerakoted it with H Series bake on:

Check out the weight with an AA fluted 16" pipe:

Posted: 11/18/2015 12:58:36 PM EDT

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Great handguard guys! Just finished another 6.5 Grendel build for a friend with one, the 15", which turned out nice on a 16" barrel.

I FDE Cerakoted it with H Series bake on:

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/2015-11-13%2021.42.35_zpshbwoyqp3.jpg

Check out the weight with an AA fluted 16" pipe:

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/2015-11-13%2021.45.01_zps3jcjffxt.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/2015-11-13%2021.56.25_zpsru2de3gu.jpg

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Very nice

Posted: 11/20/2015 9:50:08 AM EDT

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Got my 15" m lok a day early and installed it last night. Very pleased with the rail! Fit and finish is superb. This is now my second rail from MI and I will keep coming back for more.

One question, should I need to remove the rail how much of a pain is it to remove the loctite compound from the nut/inner rail? Any tips should I need them?

Thanks,

-Justin

Posted: 11/20/2015 10:40:48 AM EDT

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Easy to remove , rubbing alcohol or equivalent gets it all off and nice and clean .
Troy
MI

Posted: 11/22/2015 7:42:48 PM EDT

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Im wondering one thing, and I see it was asked a few comments back but I havent seen the answer so forgive me if it was posted

Im only wondering the long term survive-ability of the way the handguard attaches to the barrel nut. Locktite and clamping force is very good I know. Im just wondering if its enough to keep the handguard from "wiggling" off or loose over time and use. If you get a longer rifle length handguard and use the QD attatchment point on the forward end, it will naturally leverage the anchor point more and potentially break it free. Im sure that seeing this system is a long term product of MI and has been around for a long time, it is proven. Im just asking if anyone has had an issue with the lack of a mechanical attachment (screws) in this design.

That being said I plan on buying a keymod one for my new billet build and adding one to 2 other ar's that I have.

Posted: 11/23/2015 9:45:46 AM EDT

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Im wondering one thing, and I see it was asked a few comments back but I havent seen the answer so forgive me if it was posted

Im only wondering the long term survive-ability of the way the handguard attaches to the barrel nut. Locktite and clamping force is very good I know. Im just wondering if its enough to keep the handguard from "wiggling" off or loose over time and use. If you get a longer rifle length handguard and use the QD attatchment point on the forward end, it will naturally leverage the anchor point more and potentially break it free. Im sure that seeing this system is a long term product of MI and has been around for a long time, it is proven. Im just asking if anyone has had an issue with the lack of a mechanical attachment (screws) in this design.

That being said I plan on buying a keymod one for my new billet build and adding one to 2 other ar's that I have.

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We have attached and run these with no adhesive compound at all with zero issues. We continue to recommend it to make the install as bullet proof as possible . If you look at the design of the G3 it will not go anywhere and is mechanically locked in with the torque plate.
thanks
Troy
MI

Posted: 11/26/2015 4:18:44 AM EDT

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Will a Geissele gas block fit under this?

Posted: 11/26/2015 9:39:44 AM EDT

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I have never tried it but it should. If it doesn't they need to re design their part .
Troy
MI

Posted: 11/27/2015 3:17:40 PM EDT

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Answering my own question. Yes, Syrac Gen2 Adjustable Clamp On Gas Block fits under Midwest Gen3 rail :)

Posted: 11/27/2015 8:25:20 PM EDT

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Answering my own question. Yes, Syrac Gen2 Adjustable Clamp On Gas Block fits under Midwest Gen3 rail :)

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thanks for the self answer
Troy
MI

Posted: 12/4/2015 8:03:34 PM EDT

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Lose the 6 o'clock QD at muzzle end of hand-guard and you'll win me back!

Posted: 12/5/2015 8:34:17 PM EDT

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I like it there, and at 3:00 and 9:00. I like lots of choices and am of the school of thought, better to have more than you need than not enough. If one does not like it at any of the three front or two rear locations, don't use them. My money is that they would lose a lot more customers by removing attachment points than from including them, but they cannot please everyone. That's why there are a blue gazillion forends on the market today. Everyone and their grandmother is making stuff for ARs anymore and I freaking LOVE IT! Something for everyone.