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Link Posted: 8/6/2015 7:36:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/7/2015 1:05:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/7/2015 11:01:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/13/2015 11:34:31 AM EDT
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Holy Cow, this is one tough mount.  I just got one of the MI QD mounts for the T1 type optics to use on my Primary Arms Gen 2 MD-06L, this is the older Gen 2 unit that has the emitter on the bottom in the 6:00 position.  The position of the emitter is the cause of the only problem with this optic mount combo.  With the lower 1 / 3 co-witness, the emitter blocks the front sight and the optic is such that is more of a lower 1 / 4 co-witness than a lower 1 / 3, which puts the front sight behind the emitter hump.  

With the newer Microdots and the ADS PA scope, the emitter is not in the way and you get a true lower 1 / 3 co-witness.  Besides, the QD lever works so smoothly that it takes only seconds to remove the optic and then you can use the BUIS all you want.  Plus, no loss of zero is seen when you reattach the optic.  I have not personally tested this out but the fit is so good that I have no doubt the return to zero claims are true.  Still, the mount is not perfect for the old Gen 2 MD-06L scopes.  The soon to be released exact co-witness (with current Micro-Dots and ADS) will be a better match with the MD-06L and will give a usable lower 1 / 3 co-witness
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This through the optic shot shows how the emitter hump gets in the way of the BUIS.

The dot in the optic is not much above the top of the front sight post but you can see, in relation to the rear sight, the hump is going to be in the way long before you get the dot centered in the aperture and lined up with the BUIS.  

The 12 sided locking lever bolt makes it very easy to get just the right amount of tension on the locking mechanism.  No more BS of not tight enough in this position or too tight in the next.  With 12 flats you can dial the level of locking force quickly and accurately.  


The locking mechanism is extremely strong and will not open under any amount of recoil, thanks to its own lock that keeps the lever from opening until the user wants it to open.


I put 100 rounds of .475 TREMOR through the 7.250 pound AR and nothing loosened up nor did the zero shift at all.  There were 25 rounds of 275 gr. Deep Curl at 1800 fps, 25 rounds of 350 gr. cast at 1700 fps, 25 rounds of 375 gr. cast at 1700 fps, and 25 rounds of 500 gr. Hornadys at a hair over 1300 fps. Those loads will get your attention in a 7 1 / 4 pound rifle.  Needless to say, the MI 12 inch SSK handguard never budged, the Mag-Pul CTR never wiggled, and the MI mount never loosened or shifted.  Even the $50 Chinese made Primary Arms MD-06L (last November Black Friday sale IIRC) optic took everything in stride.  While it seems funny to spend more on the mount than the optic, after having the Primary Arms $20 QD mount fail in ten shots and wasting God knows how much ammo trying to make that God forsaken POS work, the $90 for MI mount is nothing.
These are great days fellow shooters, no longer do you have to spend a fortune for decent quality optics, mounts, stocks, forends, and other accessories.

After several weeks I finally got the PA ADS and hooked it up to the MI exact CW mount.  As mentioned, with the ADS and the exact CW mount, it gives a lower one-third co-witness and the emitter hump is not in the way.  I put 60 rounds of .475 TREMOR through the new ADS optic and mount and nothing has shifted, shot loose, or broken.  I think they have another winner here, both Midwest Industries and Primary Arms.
Here's a shooter's view shot showing the lower one-third co-witness of the ADS combined with the exact CW MI mount.
Link Posted: 8/15/2015 9:51:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/15/2015 11:58:31 AM EDT
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The lever is on the right to keep the charging handle side clean. The left side is also the side that will rest on your chest or kit when in two point carry . This will ensure no snags on your grear.
Thanks.
Troy
MI

Some of us are left handed and charge from the right side.....making this a no go for us.

<sigh>
Link Posted: 8/15/2015 12:52:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/15/2015 1:01:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/18/2015 10:54:13 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/18/2015 1:47:08 PM EDT
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When will we see a Trijicon MRO mount available for pre-order?

Also, is there enough of a gap on that cantilever mount for the rubber Aimpoint body cover?
Link Posted: 8/18/2015 1:56:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2015 10:16:18 PM EDT
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These things are great.  I was able to pick up an exact co-witness mount for the Primary Arms MD-06L which is perfect for giving a lower one-third CW.  I know, sounds funny, an exact CW mount giving a lower one-third CW.   As I mentioned in my other post using the MI lower one-third mount, the emitter hump of the older Gen 2 PA MD-06L blocked the BUIS, making them un-useable unless the optic is removed, which thanks to the excellent QD design of the MI mount, only takes seconds.  Still, I prefer not to have to remove the optic to use the BUIS, plus I like to use the BUIS to check zero of the optic and vice versa if things get an accidental bump.
Now this is where it gets confusing.
The MI exact CW mount, when paired with the Gen 2 PA MD-06L puts the BUIS and the dot of the optic in perfect alignment for a lower one-third CW.
However, if used on the current PA ADS red dot, the exact CW mount will give an exact CW and the lower one-third mount will give a lower one-third CW, but as I said and reiterate, with the older Gen 2 MD-06L, the exact CW mount gives a lower one-third CW and the lower one-third CW cannot be used in a co-witness role due to the emitter hump blocking the BUIS.
Here is the shot of the lower one-third mount when used with the MD-06L and you can see that the sight will not work in a co-witness roll due to the emitter hump.

As you can see in the above picture, the dot is just above the top of the front sight post but is way above the rear sight aperture, and if you try to line up the front sight in the rear sight aperture the emitter hump in the optic blocks your view.  You have to remove the optic in order to use your BUIS with this setup WITH THE PA MD-06L OPTIC ONLY.



But with the exact CW mount, a lower one-third CW can be achieved with the MD-06L and the emitter hump does not get in the way.  Here is a shot showing the lower one-third CW with the MD-06L and the MI exact CW mount.
Who could ask for more?


Now I have to order the ADS so I can use the lower one-third mount on the other .475 TREMOR.  Good times, good times!

After several weeks I finally got the PA ADS and hooked it up to the MI exact CW mount.  As mentioned, with the ADS and the exact CW mount, it gives a lower one-third co-witness and the emitter hump is not in the way.  I put 60 rounds of .475 TREMOR through the new ADS optic and mount and nothing has shifted, shot loose, or broken.  I think they have another winner here, both Midwest Industries and Primary Arms.
Here's a shooter's view shot showing the lower one-third co-witness of the ADS combined with the exact CW MI mount.
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 8:57:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/24/2015 4:06:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/24/2015 4:36:27 PM EDT
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As hard as I tried today, I could not break the MI exact co-witness mount or the el-cheapo Chinese made Primary Arms micro-dot gen 2 optic.
First I had it on the .475 TREMOR and put twenty-eight 500 gr loads through it (7 four shot groups).  I took it off and put it on my 870 Super-Mag with 3.5 inch Nitro Company 1250 fps #4 turkey loads.  I had intended to shoot 10 but after five I was done.  Screw that!  From a bench those loads are brutal.  I took the optic/mount off the 870 and put it back on the .475 and shot the last 4 shot group.  I could tell no change in zero.  As far as I am concerned I am done trying to break the optic and shoot the mount loose.  They work and both are apparently tough as nails.  Honestly, I'd expect no less from the MI mount but that little PA Micro-Dot never ceases to amaze me.  I guess the Chinese can make a decent optic so long as someone like PA holds their feet to the fire regarding QC.
Link Posted: 8/25/2015 1:04:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/26/2015 9:38:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/28/2015 7:54:58 AM EDT
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Any date on the release of the aimpoint cantilever mount as of yet and will the locking system be able to be reversed to the other side of the rifle?
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 10:16:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/31/2015 1:04:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/5/2015 12:59:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/5/2015 4:55:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/5/2015 5:40:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/5/2015 6:31:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/6/2015 9:08:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/7/2015 5:44:04 PM EDT
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Will this cantilever give the same cowitness as an Aimpoint PRO with the QRP2 base?
Link Posted: 9/8/2015 7:04:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/15/2015 9:50:53 AM EDT
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When will we see a Trijicon MRO mount available?
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Any update on when these will be available?
Link Posted: 9/15/2015 2:31:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/17/2015 11:46:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/18/2015 2:59:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/24/2015 8:46:31 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/22/2015 8:08:45 PM EDT
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Any update on these?  Any plans of making a non-cantilever version?


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Link Posted: 10/23/2015 11:19:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/23/2015 3:49:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2015 10:24:23 AM EDT
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Are your cantilever risers the same height as the standard Aimpoint riser? It almost looks taller making me think (and hope) it provides a true lower 1/3 cowitness.


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Link Posted: 10/25/2015 12:01:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2015 11:21:21 PM EDT
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I'd be interested in a 20 MOA cant 30mm scope mount with a 1.4" height from rail to ring center, and so would pretty much every other shooter I have talked it over with.

1.5" ring center heights always seem to be just a bit too high, and for rifles where we don't want the Magpul PRS or any adjustable cheek piece, we have to go to a mandible weld.

Love your Gen II SS handguards BTW.  I'll be getting one of the new G3 Lightweight Handguards as well.

Seriously though, if you make a 1.4" ring center height 20 MOA mount, it will sell.
Link Posted: 10/26/2015 10:55:19 AM EDT
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I'd be interested in a 20 MOA cant 30mm scope mount with a 1.4" height from rail to ring center, and so would pretty much every other shooter I have talked it over with.

1.5" ring center heights always seem to be just a bit too high, and for rifles where we don't want the Magpul RPS or any adjustable cheek piece, we have to go to a mandible weld.

Love your Gen II SS handguards BTW.  I'll be getting one of the new G3 Lightweight Handguards as well.

Seriously though, if you make a 1.4" ring center height 20 MOA mount, it will sell.
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I agree with this ^^^^
Link Posted: 10/29/2015 1:20:02 PM EDT
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I'd be interested in a 20 MOA cant 30mm scope mount with a 1.4" height from rail to ring center, and so would pretty much every other shooter I have talked it over with.

1.5" ring center heights always seem to be just a bit too high, and for rifles where we don't want the Magpul RPS or any adjustable cheek piece, we have to go to a mandible weld.

Love your Gen II SS handguards BTW.  I'll be getting one of the new G3 Lightweight Handguards as well.

Seriously though, if you make a 1.4" ring center height 20 MOA mount, it will sell.
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I agree with this ^^^^
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As do I. My .308 would love one. I like my A2 stock, but combined with the DPMS High reciever height, results in what is practically a chin-weld.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:02:36 PM EDT
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If I use my Aimpoint spacer/Comp M4s with your mount, will that be absolute or lower 1/3?
Link Posted: 12/11/2015 9:14:17 PM EDT
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60 day rule
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