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Got the demo rifle for the shop's AR Build class built. Boom. 5.76 lbs with a M4 profile barrel. Estimated 5.15 lbs after I get the pencil barrel in. https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11031139_10101430740421602_8077089883797659639_n.jpg?oh=83bbd4d4eadd588fef81d4fa06be5c9d&oe=557BC520 Details on this build? I'd like to duplicate it. Very nice. The same rifle is here: Second rifle in video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x9Ll4bsu9k Whose's ugly mug is that in there. |
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Got the demo rifle for the shop's AR Build class built. Boom. 5.76 lbs with a M4 profile barrel. Estimated 5.15 lbs after I get the pencil barrel in. https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11031139_10101430740421602_8077089883797659639_n.jpg?oh=83bbd4d4eadd588fef81d4fa06be5c9d&oe=557BC520 Details on this build? I'd like to duplicate it. Very nice. The same rifle is here: Second rifle in video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x9Ll4bsu9k Whose's ugly mug is that in there. It's hard to watch!!!! |
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I finished my 2A build today. Congrats on making some really lightweight and great products.
Build thread here- Link |
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Oh nice!!!
I love the burnt bronze. Thank you for the business! Ryan |
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I finished my 2A build today. Congrats on making some really lightweight and great products. <a href="http://s300.photobucket.com/user/rccox/media/Guns/Burnt%20Bronze%202A/55C6ECF0-D41B-4EF9-8560-8A92F735FE4D.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/rccox/Guns/Burnt%20Bronze%202A/55C6ECF0-D41B-4EF9-8560-8A92F735FE4D.jpg</a> Build thread here- Link View Quote That is a sexy looking rifle there sir. |
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Technical Question:
How much clearance is machined into the ID (ID at mounting point obviously) of the rail vs. the OD of the barrel nut? Thanks |
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I'm ordering one of your sets this week - 2 months ago I had never considered doing a lightweight build. Now (thanks your wicked new upper / lower sets & your photos, damn you!) I have to have one! Quick question - what barrel is in this build? Also, what barrel is in the SBR that you've shown here also (they both appear to be stainless or at least silver toned)? http://www.2a-arms.com/sites/default/files/IMG_4584.JPG View Quote Both barrels are Odin Works. https://www.odinworks.com/ODIN_Works_223_Wylde_7_5_Barrel_p/b-223-7.htm https://www.odinworks.com/223_Wylde_16_1_Carbine_p/b-223-16-ul-ml.htm |
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the rails certainly look nice, but just curious, why is mlok more expensive? i would think the rectangles were easier to machine than the keymod slots.
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the rails certainly look nice, but just curious, why is mlok more expensive? i would think the rectangles were easier to machine than the keymod slots. View Quote It's the in letting around the M-LOK holes that adds machine time. We are looking at possibly revising that to get the run time the same as the KeyMod. |
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2-A,
Maybe you missed my question above...... How much clearance is machined into the ID (ID at mounting point obviously) of the rail vs. the OD of the barrel nut? Thanks |
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2-A, Maybe you missed my question above...... How much clearance is machined into the ID (ID at mounting point obviously) of the rail vs. the OD of the barrel nut? Thanks View Quote I did miss it!!! Sorry bout that. It's .010 at nominal between the two parts before plating. The Ti Nut will be looser in the rail, where the aluminum nut can be tighter based on how anodizing turned out. Our rail isn't as dependent on the fit between the nut and rail as others are, It's more critical that the face of the receiver be square as that's where the engagement is. Ryan |
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I did miss it!!! Sorry bout that. It's .010 at nominal between the two parts before plating. The Ti Nut will be looser in the rail, where the aluminum nut can be tighter based on how anodizing turned out. Our rail isn't as dependent on the fit between the nut and rail as others are, It's more critical that the face of the receiver be square as that's where the engagement is. Ryan View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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2-A, Maybe you missed my question above...... How much clearance is machined into the ID (ID at mounting point obviously) of the rail vs. the OD of the barrel nut? Thanks I did miss it!!! Sorry bout that. It's .010 at nominal between the two parts before plating. The Ti Nut will be looser in the rail, where the aluminum nut can be tighter based on how anodizing turned out. Our rail isn't as dependent on the fit between the nut and rail as others are, It's more critical that the face of the receiver be square as that's where the engagement is. Ryan Thank You! |
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Any pictures with a 12" Rail on a 12.5" bbl?
Pricing seems widely varied thought your vendors, with some coming in above the MSRP from your site. I'll keep looking around... |
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Yup I run that combo on my own gun. 12" rail on a 12.5" DD barrel. Ryanhttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0914/1556/products/mpul.JPG?v=1436808804 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any pictures with a 12" Rail on a 12.5" bbl? Pricing seems widely varied thought your vendors, with some coming in above the MSRP from your site. I'll keep looking around... Yup I run that combo on my own gun. 12" rail on a 12.5" DD barrel. Ryanhttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0914/1556/products/mpul.JPG?v=1436808804 Awesome. I can't tell from this angle, but how much of the threads/shoulder are exposed outside the rail? I have a a direct thread can that will fit right up to the shoulder. Thanks. |
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Just picked up a Balios light set and Ti pins for another .458 build, I love the way it looks. Also wouldn't hate to add a 5/8x24 Ti .458 compensator to it either...
You guys have any idea if you'll be offering a 9 or 10" rail? I've seen a few ask the question but I didn't see a response yet |
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I know a 10" rail is being designed, or programmed, I saw it on BK's desktop. I am a little behind out in the shop, but I know it's coming.
As for the exposed threads. It's almost nothing, as in 20-30 thousands that the shoulder is sticking out past the rail. HOWEVER! Every barrel will be different, and it will depend on where the shoulder was turned on the barrel. Ryan |
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Awesome. I can't tell from this angle, but how much of the threads/shoulder are exposed outside the rail? I have a a direct thread can that will fit right up to the shoulder. Thanks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any pictures with a 12" Rail on a 12.5" bbl? Pricing seems widely varied thought your vendors, with some coming in above the MSRP from your site. I'll keep looking around... Yup I run that combo on my own gun. 12" rail on a 12.5" DD barrel. Ryanhttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0914/1556/products/mpul.JPG?v=1436808804 Awesome. I can't tell from this angle, but how much of the threads/shoulder are exposed outside the rail? I have a a direct thread can that will fit right up to the shoulder. Thanks. I can tell you a 12.5 inch Noveske barrel with the 12" rail, the shoulder lines up exact with the end of the rail. It will make it a pain in the ass to shoot suppressed unless it is a direct thread or you are using a Gemtech extended quickmount with their suppressors BTW, Call Reds Trading Post in Twin Falls, ID and ask for Larry and get a price. Fantastic service and much knowledge. Oh Ryan, another Balios Lite here waiting for stamp. Hit me up when your down this way. |
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Thank you.
You mean exactly? I was hoping for the smallest bit of shoulder peaking out from the rail. I might need to get a small thread spacer... Quoted:
I can tell you a 12.5 inch Noveske barrel with the 12" rail, the shoulder lines up exact with the end of the rail. It will make it a pain in the ass to shoot suppressed unless it is a direct thread or you are using a Gemtech extended quickmount with their suppressors BTW, Call Reds Trading Post in Twin Falls, ID and ask for Larry and get a price. Fantastic service and much knowledge. Oh Ryan, another Balios Lite here waiting for stamp. Hit me up when your down this way. http://i.imgur.com/aW78fAl.jpg?1 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any pictures with a 12" Rail on a 12.5" bbl? Pricing seems widely varied thought your vendors, with some coming in above the MSRP from your site. I'll keep looking around... Yup I run that combo on my own gun. 12" rail on a 12.5" DD barrel. Ryanhttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0914/1556/products/mpul.JPG?v=1436808804 Awesome. I can't tell from this angle, but how much of the threads/shoulder are exposed outside the rail? I have a a direct thread can that will fit right up to the shoulder. Thanks. I can tell you a 12.5 inch Noveske barrel with the 12" rail, the shoulder lines up exact with the end of the rail. It will make it a pain in the ass to shoot suppressed unless it is a direct thread or you are using a Gemtech extended quickmount with their suppressors BTW, Call Reds Trading Post in Twin Falls, ID and ask for Larry and get a price. Fantastic service and much knowledge. Oh Ryan, another Balios Lite here waiting for stamp. Hit me up when your down this way. http://i.imgur.com/aW78fAl.jpg?1 |
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Thank you. You mean exactly? I was hoping for the smallest bit of shoulder peaking out from the rail. I might need to get a small thread spacer... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any pictures with a 12" Rail on a 12.5" bbl? Pricing seems widely varied thought your vendors, with some coming in above the MSRP from your site. I'll keep looking around... Yup I run that combo on my own gun. 12" rail on a 12.5" DD barrel. Ryanhttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0914/1556/products/mpul.JPG?v=1436808804 Awesome. I can't tell from this angle, but how much of the threads/shoulder are exposed outside the rail? I have a a direct thread can that will fit right up to the shoulder. Thanks. I can tell you a 12.5 inch Noveske barrel with the 12" rail, the shoulder lines up exact with the end of the rail. It will make it a pain in the ass to shoot suppressed unless it is a direct thread or you are using a Gemtech extended quickmount with their suppressors BTW, Call Reds Trading Post in Twin Falls, ID and ask for Larry and get a price. Fantastic service and much knowledge. Oh Ryan, another Balios Lite here waiting for stamp. Hit me up when your down this way. http://i.imgur.com/aW78fAl.jpg?1 Yep, straight edge exact. Are you going to suppress or other? If you need some quality spacers, IM me. I would be happy to send a pack or two out in an envelope. I have a ton that I will never use. |
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Thanks again.
Yes, a direct thread can. I may take you up on the spacer, I will only need a sliver to get me past the rail. I'll post up once I have my rail bought and measured. Much thanks. |
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I know a 10" rail is being designed, or programmed, I saw it on BK's desktop. I am a little behind out in the shop, but I know it's coming. As for the exposed threads. It's almost nothing, as in 20-30 thousands that the shoulder is sticking out past the rail. HOWEVER! Every barrel will be different, and it will depend on where the shoulder was turned on the barrel. Ryan View Quote Awesome, I'll be waiting patiently don't be afraid to give us an update so I can beat the rush |
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I can tell you a 12.5 inch Noveske barrel with the 12" rail, the shoulder lines up exact with the end of the rail. It will make it a pain in the ass to shoot suppressed unless it is a direct thread or you are using a Gemtech extended quickmount with their suppressors BTW, Call Reds Trading Post in Twin Falls, ID and ask for Larry and get a price. Fantastic service and much knowledge. Oh Ryan, another Balios Lite here waiting for stamp. Hit me up when your down this way. http://i.imgur.com/aW78fAl.jpg?1 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any pictures with a 12" Rail on a 12.5" bbl? Pricing seems widely varied thought your vendors, with some coming in above the MSRP from your site. I'll keep looking around... Yup I run that combo on my own gun. 12" rail on a 12.5" DD barrel. Ryanhttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0914/1556/products/mpul.JPG?v=1436808804 Awesome. I can't tell from this angle, but how much of the threads/shoulder are exposed outside the rail? I have a a direct thread can that will fit right up to the shoulder. Thanks. I can tell you a 12.5 inch Noveske barrel with the 12" rail, the shoulder lines up exact with the end of the rail. It will make it a pain in the ass to shoot suppressed unless it is a direct thread or you are using a Gemtech extended quickmount with their suppressors BTW, Call Reds Trading Post in Twin Falls, ID and ask for Larry and get a price. Fantastic service and much knowledge. Oh Ryan, another Balios Lite here waiting for stamp. Hit me up when your down this way. http://i.imgur.com/aW78fAl.jpg?1 I will be in the area this weekend, as I am attending Carbine 1 at LMS Defense. However I also have grandma to visit, so not sure how free I will be! And nice looking build you have going there! Ryan |
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Here's what I'm after: A rail with a similar OD as my Form 1 can (1.9") and minimal space between the rail and the direct thread attachment. ETA: The 2A rail is the best candidate to date. Yes, it's a monster can and a unique project... http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/79ebd5aba69aa0dde640b86c82c66af0_zpsuws4bw1k.jpg View Quote Wow! I would love to see our rail in this project. Ryan |
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I will be in the area this weekend, as I am attending Carbine 1 at LMS Defense. However I also have grandma to visit, so not sure how free I will be! And nice looking build you have going there! Ryan View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any pictures with a 12" Rail on a 12.5" bbl? Pricing seems widely varied thought your vendors, with some coming in above the MSRP from your site. I'll keep looking around... Yup I run that combo on my own gun. 12" rail on a 12.5" DD barrel. Ryanhttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0914/1556/products/mpul.JPG?v=1436808804 Awesome. I can't tell from this angle, but how much of the threads/shoulder are exposed outside the rail? I have a a direct thread can that will fit right up to the shoulder. Thanks. I can tell you a 12.5 inch Noveske barrel with the 12" rail, the shoulder lines up exact with the end of the rail. It will make it a pain in the ass to shoot suppressed unless it is a direct thread or you are using a Gemtech extended quickmount with their suppressors BTW, Call Reds Trading Post in Twin Falls, ID and ask for Larry and get a price. Fantastic service and much knowledge. Oh Ryan, another Balios Lite here waiting for stamp. Hit me up when your down this way. http://i.imgur.com/aW78fAl.jpg?1 I will be in the area this weekend, as I am attending Carbine 1 at LMS Defense. However I also have grandma to visit, so not sure how free I will be! And nice looking build you have going there! Ryan Ah, fantastic. Hope she is well and it is a good visit. I am heading deep into NV for a 5 day poker event here in a few hours and will catch you next time. |
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Here's what I'm after: A rail with a similar OD as my Form 1 can (1.9") and minimal space between the rail and the direct thread attachment. ETA: The 2A rail is the best candidate to date. Yes, it's a monster can and a unique project... http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/79ebd5aba69aa0dde640b86c82c66af0_zpsuws4bw1k.jpg View Quote Have you considered purchasing the 2A rail you like and then have ADCO cut a longer barrel down to match? |
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I know a 10" rail is being designed, or programmed, I saw it on BK's desktop. I am a little behind out in the shop, but I know it's coming. As for the exposed threads. It's almost nothing, as in 20-30 thousands that the shoulder is sticking out past the rail. HOWEVER! Every barrel will be different, and it will depend on where the shoulder was turned on the barrel. Ryan View Quote Hey Ryan sorry to be a pain but do you know approximately how long the 10" rail is going to be? |
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Hey Ryan sorry to be a pain but do you know approximately how long the 10" rail is going to be? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I know a 10" rail is being designed, or programmed, I saw it on BK's desktop. I am a little behind out in the shop, but I know it's coming. As for the exposed threads. It's almost nothing, as in 20-30 thousands that the shoulder is sticking out past the rail. HOWEVER! Every barrel will be different, and it will depend on where the shoulder was turned on the barrel. Ryan Hey Ryan sorry to be a pain but do you know approximately how long the 10" rail is going to be? 9.980 |
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You know, maybe I should have got a 14.5" mid length and cut it down...
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Here's what I'm after: A rail with a similar OD as my Form 1 can (1.9") and minimal space between the rail and the direct thread attachment. ETA: The 2A rail is the best candidate to date. Yes, it's a monster can and a unique project... http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/79ebd5aba69aa0dde640b86c82c66af0_zpsuws4bw1k.jpg Have you considered purchasing the 2A rail you like and then have ADCO cut a longer barrel down to match? |
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I know a 10" rail is being designed, or programmed, I saw it on BK's desktop. I am a little behind out in the shop, but I know it's coming. As for the exposed threads. It's almost nothing, as in 20-30 thousands that the shoulder is sticking out past the rail. HOWEVER! Every barrel will be different, and it will depend on where the shoulder was turned on the barrel. Ryan Hey Ryan sorry to be a pain but do you know approximately how long the 10" rail is going to be? 9.980 I just measured my 10.3" DD barrel with my SF Socom on it and from the front of the upper receiver to the beginning of the can it is 9.74". I measured with my calipers three times. This rail will be a great option for those not using a suppressor on a 10.3" to 10.5" barrel but those of us who have cans on these barrel lengths this will be a no go for all of us. Is there anyway that roughly a quarter of an inch can be reduced from the length of this rail before it goes into prototype and full production? I want to see these rails more popular and I imagine there are a lot of us who run cans who won't be able to use it. Thanks for hearing me out. ETA: as I was lying in bed about to go asleep (I know I am ridiculous) I realized for the handguard to match up correctly you would have to take it back one pica tinny rail space up top (approx .38") so if you were to scale it back to fit suppressor use it would make your OAL 9.6". I don't even pretend to know how hard or easy it would be to change the design but I honestly do believe you would sell more units of these if you took into consideration the 10.3" barrel and suppressor use crowd. I'm going to bed now. |
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I just measured my 10.3" DD barrel with my SF Socom on it and from the front of the upper receiver to the beginning of the can it is 9.74". I measured with my calipers three times. This rail will be a great option for those not using a suppressor on a 10.3" to 10.5" barrel but those of us who have cans on these barrel lengths this will be a no go for all of us. Is there anyway that roughly a quarter of an inch can be reduced from the length of this rail before it goes into prototype and full production? I want to see these rails more popular and I imagine there are a lot of us who run cans who won't be able to use it. Thanks for hearing me out. ETA: as I was lying in bed about to go asleep (I know I am ridiculous) I realized for the handguard to match up correctly you would have to take it back one pica tinny rail space up top (approx .38") so if you were to scale it back to fit suppressor use it would make your OAL 9.6". I don't even pretend to know how hard or easy it would be to change the design but I honestly do believe you would sell more units of these if you took into consideration the 10.3" barrel and suppressor use crowd. I'm going to bed now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I know a 10" rail is being designed, or programmed, I saw it on BK's desktop. I am a little behind out in the shop, but I know it's coming. As for the exposed threads. It's almost nothing, as in 20-30 thousands that the shoulder is sticking out past the rail. HOWEVER! Every barrel will be different, and it will depend on where the shoulder was turned on the barrel. Ryan Hey Ryan sorry to be a pain but do you know approximately how long the 10" rail is going to be? 9.980 I just measured my 10.3" DD barrel with my SF Socom on it and from the front of the upper receiver to the beginning of the can it is 9.74". I measured with my calipers three times. This rail will be a great option for those not using a suppressor on a 10.3" to 10.5" barrel but those of us who have cans on these barrel lengths this will be a no go for all of us. Is there anyway that roughly a quarter of an inch can be reduced from the length of this rail before it goes into prototype and full production? I want to see these rails more popular and I imagine there are a lot of us who run cans who won't be able to use it. Thanks for hearing me out. ETA: as I was lying in bed about to go asleep (I know I am ridiculous) I realized for the handguard to match up correctly you would have to take it back one pica tinny rail space up top (approx .38") so if you were to scale it back to fit suppressor use it would make your OAL 9.6". I don't even pretend to know how hard or easy it would be to change the design but I honestly do believe you would sell more units of these if you took into consideration the 10.3" barrel and suppressor use crowd. I'm going to bed now. Hey this is all great info, I will get it to BK and propose a change. Thanks so much, this is the type of input that helps a lot! Ryan |
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Hey this is all great info, I will get it to BK and propose a change. Thanks so much, this is the type of input that helps a lot! Ryan When can we expect to hear about if this change has been implemented? It has been done! BK Updated the model yesterday. 9.6 it is, thank you so much for the input. Ryan |
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It has been done! BK Updated the model yesterday. 9.6 it is, thank you so much for the input. Ryan View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hey this is all great info, I will get it to BK and propose a change. Thanks so much, this is the type of input that helps a lot! Ryan When can we expect to hear about if this change has been implemented? It has been done! BK Updated the model yesterday. 9.6 it is, thank you so much for the input. Ryan Awesome I am so excited!!!! Thank you for helping out, I greatly appreciate it. |
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Is there an anti rotational feature in this rail? Sorry if I missed it
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Is there an anti rotational feature in this rail? Sorry if I missed it View Quote Yes, the rail is tentioned against the face of the receiver by the 4 lucking screws. It's driven back as it's tightened. The barrel nut itself also is retained by the gas tube just like a factory nut. |
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Hey Ryan what is a realistic timeline for the 10" handguard? Christmas?
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Hey Ryan what is a realistic timeline for the 10" handguard? Christmas? Honestly, I would say realistic 2.5 months out. We are so far behind on our current product, but starting to get things in order. Excellent sounds good. I'll be one of the first ones to buy it. |
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