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Posted: 2/6/2015 11:18:43 AM EDT
TRULY IMPROVE YOUR M4!!!!
DS Arms is proud to release the BUFFERLOC, an improved buffer and carrier insert for the AR15 type rifle that fits all in spec AR15/M16/M4 type rifles. This invention improves the reliability, durability and takedown of any AR15 type firearm. The BUFFERLOC also addressed an issue common to piston ARs’ carrier tilt. By keeping the bolt carrier in line with the buffer we have essentially eliminated this issue. The spring loaded ball bearing insert fits OEM in spec bolt carriers; this insert has a corresponding buffer machined with a dimple that aligns the carrier. This allows for the lower and upper to be tighter. The bolt and carrier also stays aligned much better. Plus the BUFFERLOC stops the upper from flopping open in disassembly. The added constant forward pressure also aids in the reliability of your rifle especially in fouled conditions. The Buffer Lock’s Enhancements 1.Allows for the rifle to be opened without flopping open and hitting your body or marring the finish of your rifle. 2.Keeps the bolt group aligned for better reliability and even wear on the bolt head, extractor and barrel extension for less part fatigue and wear. 3.Keeps constant extra pressure on the bolt group ensuring better bolt lock for enhanced reliability especially under fouled and dirty rifle conditions. 4.Reduces carrier tilt seen in many piston designs allowing for less wear on the buffer tube and less friction that can cause reliability issues. 5.Lowers the chance of bolt bounce because of the constant forward pressure on the bolt group, providing enhanced reliability. 6.Enhanced bolt group alignment provides for a better ejection pattern. 7.Improves the fit of the upper and lower receivers. 8.Drop in all AR15/M4 with no permanent modifications to you rifle. This new product innovation adds durability and reliability to the heart of your AR15 type rifle, at a low cost. 
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Posted: 2/6/2015 12:54:42 PM EDT
[#1]
I see Firearms Ready Solutions is no more, so you've got the market to yourself. Might fix your title.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 6:10:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2015 9:36:09 PM EDT
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What's the weight of the buffer?
Is the carrier plug available seperate from the kit? |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 10:14:18 PM EDT
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What's the weight of the buffer? Is the carrier plug available seperate from the kit? +1 Looks interesting. |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 11:14:44 PM EDT
[#5]
You guys own Systema PTW's don't you? :)
That is exactly how the cylinder locks into the receiver/buffer on the Systema PTW Airsoft gun except for there is a cap with a dimple/hole in it that doesn't move where the flat spot is on the buffer. Due to the design, there is no play in the upper/lower. I could see this working very well on a real rifle.
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Posted: 2/7/2015 1:01:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Nice to an actual new idea. I might have to try this
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Posted: 2/7/2015 11:05:18 AM EDT
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Right now it is only offered with a standard weight carbine buffer. We will be doing it in a H version though in a little bit. The added mass of the insert though pretty much makes the whole assembly equal a H.
Right now we only offer it as the kit, but will also be selling just the insert later. You do not need the dimpled buffer for the system to work but it does assist greatly in the main feature of proper alignment. Thanks, Mike DS Arms |
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Posted: 2/8/2015 3:23:26 PM EDT
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I'll jump on this once you produce a H2 buffer for this system
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Posted: 2/8/2015 7:49:07 PM EDT
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I'll jump on this once you produce a H2 buffer for this system +1 |
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Posted: 2/8/2015 9:07:04 PM EDT
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I'll jump on this once you produce a H2 buffer for this system +1 +1 and/or H3 |
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Posted: 2/9/2015 7:56:58 AM EDT
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Now I know what I want for me b-day this month!! Will be ordering later this month. :-p
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Posted: 2/9/2015 8:55:07 AM EDT
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Any plans on making one compatible with the Valtor A5 system?
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Posted: 2/9/2015 10:07:31 AM EDT
[#13]
+1 on Vltor A5.
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Posted: 2/10/2015 11:26:25 AM EDT
[#14]
There should be no reason why the insert would not work with the A5 system. The system does not require the dimpled buffer in order to work, it will just ensure better alignment and function.
Thanks, Mike DS Arms |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 12:10:00 AM EDT
[#15]
Why bother with a spring loaded ball bearing... The buffer is already spring loaded.
Mike |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 12:24:29 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why bother with a spring loaded ball bearing... The buffer is already spring loaded.
Mike Simultaneously hinders carrier tilt and permits shotgunning the upper. |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 12:35:26 AM EDT
[#17]
Yeah but lets say the ball bearing wasn't springloaded... the buffer would still move rearward allowing it to lock into place. The spring loaded ball-bearing seems redundant. Why not just machine a hemispherical detent right into the carrier insert.
ETA: maybe its so it'll clear the lower by the receiver extension? Mike |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 12:42:09 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah but lets say the ball bearing wasn't springloaded... the buffer would still move rearward allowing it to lock into place. The spring loaded ball-bearing seems redundant. Why not just machine a hemispherical detent right into the carrier insert.
Mike And a spring-loaded hinge on the lower receiver extension boss? 
They're doing it this way, likely b/c there may be a pending patent by the previous manufacturer of this idea, who just put a cap that fit the inside of carriers on the end of buffers. You couldn't shotgun the upper, but it prevented carrier tilt. So these guys are doing it backwards, so they clearly don't violate any patents. |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 12:46:41 AM EDT
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Yeah but lets say the ball bearing wasn't springloaded... the buffer would still move rearward allowing it to lock into place. The spring loaded ball-bearing seems redundant. Why not just machine a hemispherical detent right into the carrier insert. ETA: maybe its so it'll clear the lower by the receiver extension? Mike It allows the upper receiver to tilt open from the lower |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 12:48:31 AM EDT
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Yeah but lets say the ball bearing wasn't springloaded... the buffer would still move rearward allowing it to lock into place. The spring loaded ball-bearing seems redundant. Why not just machine a hemispherical detent right into the carrier insert. ETA: maybe its so it'll clear the lower by the receiver extension? Mike I wish they had a like button. Or you're right button. The only added pressure is the very slight increase caused from the carrier insert not being flat with the back of the carrier. If it is flat with the carrier the spring and the ball will either compress the buffer spring or it will compress and if the dimple is exactly the size of the protruding ball neither will happen and there won't be any pressure increase. No buffer actually comes to rest on the retaining pin or you would see a dent in the buffer face. The length of the carriers and bolt spacing always have buffer spring pressure pushing them forward. |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 1:51:50 PM EDT
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There should be no reason why the insert would not work with the A5 system. The system does not require the dimpled buffer in order to work, it will just ensure better alignment and function. Thanks, Mike DS Arms I would have thought the whole point of using this was to "ensure better alignment" of a piston carrier with the receiver extension by creating a self centered link between the buffer and the carrier. Isnt that the reason why we need to buy this for our Piston "AR's" is to prevent carrier tilt by creating a better alignment? Otherwise why did you guys bother to make a buffer in the first place if it would work without it? You had me thinking about it until you are backing out on your marketing strategy. Respectfully, a better answer would have been - Not at this time, however we will consider it if enough people show an interest. -or- We are working on that right now and hope to have an option soon. -or even- Due to patent on the A5 we cant.... But not that half of what I am trying to sell you really isnt as important as you thought it was. 
Not saying that its a bad product in any way. I have never used it to draw any conclusion. And in theory I can see where you are going with this and actually like the idea. I just dont think telling me that I can use half the system is a good answer. |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 8:59:28 PM EDT
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Nice to an actual new idea. I might have to try this ^this. It's interesting to see something fresh and original. Not the same ol products V2.0 |
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Posted: 2/12/2015 9:43:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would have thought the whole point of using this was to "ensure better alignment" of a piston carrier with the receiver extension by creating a self centered link between the buffer and the carrier. Isnt that the reason why we need to buy this for our Piston "AR's" is to prevent carrier tilt by creating a better alignment? Otherwise why did you guys bother to make a buffer in the first place if it would work without it? You had me thinking about it until you are backing out on your marketing strategy. Respectfully, a better answer would have been - Not at this time, however we will consider it if enough people show an interest. -or- We are working on that right now and hope to have an option soon. -or even- Due to patent on the A5 we cant.... But not that half of what I am trying to sell you really isnt as important as you thought it was. Not saying that its a bad product in any way. I have never used it to draw any conclusion. And in theory I can see where you are going with this and actually like the idea. I just dont think telling me that I can use half the system is a good answer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There should be no reason why the insert would not work with the A5 system. The system does not require the dimpled buffer in order to work, it will just ensure better alignment and function. Thanks, Mike DS Arms I would have thought the whole point of using this was to "ensure better alignment" of a piston carrier with the receiver extension by creating a self centered link between the buffer and the carrier. Isnt that the reason why we need to buy this for our Piston "AR's" is to prevent carrier tilt by creating a better alignment? Otherwise why did you guys bother to make a buffer in the first place if it would work without it? You had me thinking about it until you are backing out on your marketing strategy. Respectfully, a better answer would have been - Not at this time, however we will consider it if enough people show an interest. -or- We are working on that right now and hope to have an option soon. -or even- Due to patent on the A5 we cant.... But not that half of what I am trying to sell you really isnt as important as you thought it was. Not saying that its a bad product in any way. I have never used it to draw any conclusion. And in theory I can see where you are going with this and actually like the idea. I just dont think telling me that I can use half the system is a good answer. |
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Posted: 2/12/2015 11:48:01 AM EDT
[#24]
nice gun....
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Posted: 2/12/2015 1:07:32 PM EDT
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In order for the best and most optimized performance of the Bufferloc it SHOULD be used in conjunction with our dimpled buffer, the greatest feature is the alignment. However the insert will act against a standard buffer for many of the additional features it provides.
When we set out with this our goal was simple, to create an almost 100% backwards compatible upgrade for the rifle but that could also be used with the end users existing buffer should they choose. There are way to many buffer options and weights in the market and many people have preferences, and we fully admit that should you not want to give up your Spikes T2 you do not have to in order to use this upgrade. I do not think it is a detriment to our marketability that you can use this upgrade with or without our buffer. Thanks, Mike DS Arms |
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Posted: 2/12/2015 7:46:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In order for the best and most optimized performance of the Bufferloc it SHOULD be used in conjunction with our dimpled buffer, the greatest feature is the alignment. However the insert will act against a standard buffer for many of the additional features it provides.
When we set out with this our goal was simple, to create an almost 100% backwards compatible upgrade for the rifle but that could also be used with the end users existing buffer should they choose. There are way to many buffer options and weights in the market and many people have preferences, and we fully admit that should you not want to give up your Spikes T2 you do not have to in order to use this upgrade. I do not think it is a detriment to our marketability that you can use this upgrade with or without our buffer. Thanks, Mike DS Arms I guess my question is what does your upgrade do if one doesn't use your buffer? Provide you profit?
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Posted: 2/15/2015 7:13:22 PM EDT
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why not make the buffer the male detent and the BCG insert the female detent and then you wouldnt need to spring load anything?
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Posted: 2/15/2015 10:49:49 PM EDT
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+1 for the Vltor A5.
Or.... Why not make/sell a jig so people could put their own detent in their preferred buffer? Would be pretty simple I think. A cylinder/cup shape with a small hole in the center. Slide your buffer into the large end, lock the whole thing in a vise, then supply a rounded head drill bit with a shelf on it. (The shelf would hit the face of the jig and be used to stop the drill from going too far into the face of the buffer) This way you wouldn't have to worry about all the different buffers/weights/etc. Give me an A5 Buffer or a jig and I'd buy one in a heart beat. |
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Posted: 2/16/2015 9:05:34 AM EDT
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why not make the buffer the male detent and the BCG insert the female detent and then you wouldnt need to spring load anything? Its been done and with this configuration you can't just push the detent pin on the upper and lower to get to the bcg, etc....you have to remove both detent pins and separate the lower and upper to separate lower/upper completely to get to the bcg, etc. |
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Posted: 2/16/2015 9:48:39 AM EDT
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+1 for the Vltor A5. Or.... Why not make/sell a jig so people could put their own detent in their preferred buffer? Would be pretty simple I think. A cylinder/cup shape with a small hole in the center. Slide your buffer into the large end, lock the whole thing in a vise, then supply a rounded head drill bit with a shelf on it. (The shelf would hit the face of the jig and be used to stop the drill from going too far into the face of the buffer) This way you wouldn't have to worry about all the different buffers/weights/etc. Give me an A5 Buffer or a jig and I'd buy one in a heart beat. Yes! Make a jig so I can share it with friends and none of us have to buy any of your buffers! Uhg.. who wants to go through all that work to make stuff and sell them. Great idea for a business! |
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Posted: 2/16/2015 9:49:25 AM EDT
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I guess my question is what does your upgrade do if one doesn't use your buffer? Provide you profit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: In order for the best and most optimized performance of the Bufferloc it SHOULD be used in conjunction with our dimpled buffer, the greatest feature is the alignment. However the insert will act against a standard buffer for many of the additional features it provides.
When we set out with this our goal was simple, to create an almost 100% backwards compatible upgrade for the rifle but that could also be used with the end users existing buffer should they choose. There are way to many buffer options and weights in the market and many people have preferences, and we fully admit that should you not want to give up your Spikes T2 you do not have to in order to use this upgrade. I do not think it is a detriment to our marketability that you can use this upgrade with or without our buffer. Thanks, Mike DS Arms I guess my question is what does your upgrade do if one doesn't use your buffer? Provide you profit? Capitalist pigs, aint they? Lenin would not approve.. |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 10:04:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I guess my question is what does your upgrade do if one doesn't use your buffer? Provide you profit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: In order for the best and most optimized performance of the Bufferloc it SHOULD be used in conjunction with our dimpled buffer, the greatest feature is the alignment. However the insert will act against a standard buffer for many of the additional features it provides.
When we set out with this our goal was simple, to create an almost 100% backwards compatible upgrade for the rifle but that could also be used with the end users existing buffer should they choose. There are way to many buffer options and weights in the market and many people have preferences, and we fully admit that should you not want to give up your Spikes T2 you do not have to in order to use this upgrade. I do not think it is a detriment to our marketability that you can use this upgrade with or without our buffer. Thanks, Mike DS Arms I guess my question is what does your upgrade do if one doesn't use your buffer? Provide you profit? Some of the features it has while not used in conjunction with the dimpled buffer include: *Allows the rifle to be opened without flopping open and hitting your body or banging against a hard surface and marring your rifles finish. *Keeps constant extra pressure on the bolt group ensuring better bolt lock for enhanced reliability especially under fouled and dirty rifle conditions. *Lowers the chance of bolt bounce due to the constant forward pressure on the bolt group, providing enhanced reliability. *Improves the fit and tightness between the upper and lower receivers. Thanks, Mike DS Arms |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 10:39:19 AM EDT
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I'll jump on this once you produce a H2 buffer for this system Just drive out the pin and refill their buffer with your H2 weights |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 6:22:17 PM EDT
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Some of the features it has while not used in conjunction with the dimpled buffer include: *Allows the rifle to be opened without flopping open and hitting your body or banging against a hard surface and marring your rifles finish. *Keeps constant extra pressure on the bolt group ensuring better bolt lock for enhanced reliability especially under fouled and dirty rifle conditions. *Lowers the chance of bolt bounce due to the constant forward pressure on the bolt group, providing enhanced reliability. *Improves the fit and tightness between the upper and lower receivers. Thanks, Mike DS Arms Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I guess my question is what does your upgrade do if one doesn't use your buffer? Provide you profit? Some of the features it has while not used in conjunction with the dimpled buffer include: *Allows the rifle to be opened without flopping open and hitting your body or banging against a hard surface and marring your rifles finish. *Keeps constant extra pressure on the bolt group ensuring better bolt lock for enhanced reliability especially under fouled and dirty rifle conditions. *Lowers the chance of bolt bounce due to the constant forward pressure on the bolt group, providing enhanced reliability. *Improves the fit and tightness between the upper and lower receivers. Thanks, Mike DS Arms Ok, fair enough. |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 8:41:22 PM EDT
[#35]
Depending on a few things it would not be hard to put a dimple on an A5 buffer. How big does the dimple need to be? How Deep? Also what is the weight of the insert in the BCG? I might be interested in buying the BCG half and getting a second lighter buffer from Vltor and throw it in a lathe so the dimple is centered. I would want to check with Vltor to see if the feel this would cause a problem or not with their system.
EDIT: Vltor has 2 lighter buffers than standard. ESTIMATE -.8oz and -1.5oz lighter than the standard 5.33oz |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 10:44:42 PM EDT
[#36]
It's always amazing to me how many mechanical engineers there are on these boards. I guess I just wonder why instead of using your brilliance to create new and innovative products, you choose to cut other peoples good ideas down. *sigh* I'll never understand the mind of a genius, I suppose.
I like this idea. I'm gonna give it a shot. |
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Posted: 2/18/2015 8:36:41 PM EDT
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MAKE IT WITH AN H2 BUFFER - OR BETTER YET - IN ALL WEIGHT BUFFERS SO WHEN YOUR RIFLE IS SORTED OUT YOU JUST MATCH THE WEIGHT BUFFER YOU ARE USING & START USING THE SYSTEM - I WOULD GET IT IF I COULD MATCH MY BUFFER WEIGHT
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Posted: 2/19/2015 9:57:39 PM EDT
[#38]
What issues are you guys having that requires this "fix"?
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Posted: 2/19/2015 11:02:20 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What issues are you guys having that requires this "fix"? Pistons causing carrier tilt, which causes wear on the upper. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 2:39:07 AM EDT
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Just drive out the pin and refill their buffer with your H2 weights Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll jump on this once you produce a H2 buffer for this system Just drive out the pin and refill their buffer with your H2 weights This guy gets it |
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Posted: 4/29/2015 6:24:03 PM EDT
[#41]
this might fix my misdrilled buffer retainer spring hole
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Posted: 4/30/2015 5:42:25 PM EDT
[#42]
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+1 for the Vltor A5. Or.... Why not make/sell a jig so people could put their own detent in their preferred buffer? Would be pretty simple I think. A cylinder/cup shape with a small hole in the center. Slide your buffer into the large end, lock the whole thing in a vise, then supply a rounded head drill bit with a shelf on it. (The shelf would hit the face of the jig and be used to stop the drill from going too far into the face of the buffer) This way you wouldn't have to worry about all the different buffers/weights/etc. Give me an A5 Buffer or a jig and I'd buy one in a heart beat. This is something you should offer, you'd lock the market for those that want to use the heavier buffers, and for those that want to use regular one's you could lock up their business. This would be a sound business model if you'd take the time to put it in production, it's actually not that difficult. |
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Posted: 5/14/2015 10:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is something you should offer, you'd lock the market for those that want to use the heavier buffers, and for those that want to use regular one's you could lock up their business. This would be a sound business model if you'd take the time to put it in production, it's actually not that difficult. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: +1 for the Vltor A5. Or.... Why not make/sell a jig so people could put their own detent in their preferred buffer? Would be pretty simple I think. A cylinder/cup shape with a small hole in the center. Slide your buffer into the large end, lock the whole thing in a vise, then supply a rounded head drill bit with a shelf on it. (The shelf would hit the face of the jig and be used to stop the drill from going too far into the face of the buffer) This way you wouldn't have to worry about all the different buffers/weights/etc. Give me an A5 Buffer or a jig and I'd buy one in a heart beat. This is something you should offer, you'd lock the market for those that want to use the heavier buffers, and for those that want to use regular one's you could lock up their business. This would be a sound business model if you'd take the time to put it in production, it's actually not that difficult. +1 for jig I think its a good idea |
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Posted: 6/20/2015 8:00:55 AM EDT
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Looks like a great product.
And the price is right! I f-ing hate carrier tilt. |
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Posted: 6/20/2015 8:22:05 AM EDT
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When I designed this is started as a fix for carrier tilt in both DI and piston ar types, but the added benefits discovered and designed are much more....
Reduced friction wear in the upper More consistent ejection pattern Internal forward assisting for fouled conditions Controlled take down (your upper will not just flop open and damage rail handguards and your lower; with the bufferloc its now smooth easy pop ) Can decrease upper and lower receiver wobble Backwards compatible and non evasive meaning if you lose the carrier insert your rifle can be shot fine Customizable due to standard ball bearing size, you could use a tunsten ball, lightweight aluminum ball heavy or lighter springs..... |
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Posted: 7/20/2015 1:43:47 AM EDT
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Hmmm... I've spent $40/$50 without even blinking, along with just about every gun owner I know. For something that actually might work, and to support an American Idea and American Product? I'm all about that. And like I said, it jist might work, if not, come on here and hollwr about it so we all know and I bet the dudes will STILL be cool enough to help you with problems. One immediate benefit I see is that it pushes the carrier off the buffer ever so slightly, for those guys who have had a problem with the buffer detent getting hit by the buffer. I understand that if this is happening you have other problems to address, but the cheap will be cheap.
Nice to see a new idea at least, props to you guys. I will be picking one up to check out in the coming weeks. :) |
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Posted: 7/22/2015 11:14:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2015 6:42:57 AM EDT
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over 60 days
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