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Posted: 9/13/2014 10:32:16 AM EDT

Battle Arms Development Enhanced Pins Set Titanium

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Description:

Battle Arms Development Enhanced Pin Set (BAD-EPS) just got better! Now available in natural machine finished Grade 5 Titanium (BAD-EPS-Ti) it is approximately half the weight of the steel BAD-EPS. The BAD-EPS-Ti is perfect for those looking for a lightweight build, competition, or simply seeking the raw titanium finish appeal. Each BAD-EPS-Ti (Enhanced Pin Set - Titanium) set consists of one BAD-ETP-Ti (Enhanced Takedown Pin - Titanium), one EPP (Enhanced Pivot Pin - Titanium), two springs, and two detents. Precision CNC machined from Grade 5 Titanium.

Features:

AR15 Compatible - fits all AR15 lower receivers with mil-spec .250" diameter front pivot and rear takedown pin holes.
Patent Pending Pivot Pin & Takedown Pin Head Designs - greatly improved gripping surface and pull strength without the use of oversize heads.
Low Profile Pin Heads - low drag and never in the way. Lower profile than mil-spec pin heads.
Ambidextrous Safety Compatible - the BAD-ETP-Ti (Enhanced Takedown Pin - Titanium) head design does not obstruct the use of the right side ambidextrous safety selector lever.
Extended Pin Tips (+0.030" over mil-spec) - added tip length noticeably aids in starting/pushing the pins out from the left side of the receiver, without undue protrusion.
Bullet Tip Guide - cone shaped recess at both pin tips prevent accidental bullet or tool slip and reduced the chance of scratching/damaging of the receiver.
Patent Pending EZ Guide Channel - Additional EZ Guide Channel and detent hole makes it easier to locate the detent and ease the installation of the BAD-EPP-Ti (Enhanced Pivot Pin - Titanium) to the lower receiver.

Posted: 9/13/2014 5:14:56 PM EDT

[#1]

Looks like jewelry.

Posted: 9/13/2014 5:22:50 PM EDT

[#2]

Nice... I want them

Posted: 9/14/2014 6:14:28 AM EDT

[#3]

Sexy......I like!

Posted: 9/14/2014 6:16:25 AM EDT

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FPNI

Posted: 9/14/2014 2:07:41 PM EDT

[#5]

Bling bling!

Posted: 9/14/2014 8:13:38 PM EDT

[#6]

$37

Pivot pins are parts that have never given me any trouble - so why would anyone swap it out for silver bling bling?

Posted: 9/14/2014 10:07:03 PM EDT

[#7]

37$ for titanium isn't bad at all.

Posted: 9/15/2014 12:11:35 AM EDT

[#8]

They are purty.

Posted: 9/15/2014 11:54:29 AM EDT

[#9]

Are they clear anodized? Doesn't look like they had any sort of surface treatment. Titanium galls and scratches easily, even if it does have high strength and good corrosion characteristics.
Anodizing mightn't be enough either.

Posted: 9/16/2014 9:05:03 AM EDT

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Yes, and not in a good way.

Posted: 9/17/2014 9:07:14 AM EDT

[#11]

Not diggin it, too much bling

Posted: 9/17/2014 4:10:27 PM EDT

[#12]

You could run a torch/ intense flame over the head and they would get darker; purplish or even a rainbow type color if that's your bag of tea.

Posted: 9/19/2014 3:19:14 PM EDT

[#13]

I like the functionality of the larger head and .030 longer pin but it's too much bling for me, fortunately for me they make it in BLACK.

Posted: 9/19/2014 4:01:21 PM EDT

[#14]

I bet they make em in black sooner or later

Posted: 9/19/2014 6:09:52 PM EDT

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https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3974

Posted: 9/19/2014 6:13:20 PM EDT

[#16]

was talking about the titanium pins

Posted: 9/19/2014 7:33:16 PM EDT

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Oh, lol...it didn't dawn on me someone would want titanium black.

Posted: 9/22/2014 12:09:23 AM EDT

[#18]

What are the weight differences of these pins versus mil-spec?

Posted: 9/22/2014 11:59:18 AM EDT

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Oh, lol...it didn't dawn on me someone would want titanium black.

There is a process where titanium can be made black. Unfortunately it is secret formula that some jewelry maker controls. Or at least they did a year ago when I searched for a way of turning titanium black. I work in ti quite often and ti pins will work just fine there is no reason to fear galling as nothing is moving around the pins with any frequency.

Posted: 9/22/2014 10:38:46 PM EDT

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Most colors by anodizing. No big secrets, but some colors require a lot of voltage. I can probably find out more from some people who sell Ti for architectural uses.

http://www.titaniumfinishing.com/page09.html

I know the American Express Black Centurion card (its Commercially pure titanium) is black anodized, then laser etched for the lettering and scrollwork. It was interesting to see - The back is milled out for the magnetic strip as well as a little pocket for some sort of chip or RFID tag. I don't know who anodized it, but I do know who made the titanium but the only one I've ever seen was just the sample from the company.
Some time back I helped the architectural people get a dark matt surface finish for titanium roof panels for a home near boston. That was simple as we just had the coils grit blasted. The roof had to be non reflective since it was not far from the airport, or approaches. I have heard that another gun manufacturer was able to get a near black on titanium parts by accidentally heat treating Ti in I think a nitrous atmosphere (i don't think straight N2). I will see about making some other contacts to see if the person who was involved in that can say more.

And I work with titanium every day.

Posted: 9/23/2014 7:11:01 AM EDT

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V7 Weapons Systems has several Titanium AR items coated in Black. The are coated with a very durable finish, that may be Ceracote. They sell direct or slightly discounted at Vertex Ops.

Posted: 9/23/2014 8:50:18 AM EDT

[#22]

Another damn fix to a problem I didn't even know I had!!!!!

Keep the bling for your woman, not on your rifle, just my .02

Posted: 9/26/2014 1:04:28 AM EDT

[#23]

Anyone have a weight on the takedown pins? Lighter than the V7 set? Also, any weight savings on the detents and springs?

Posted: 9/26/2014 2:20:59 PM EDT

[#24]

Would consider for a lightweight build if the titanium came in black.

Posted: 9/28/2014 2:52:59 PM EDT

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3 oz
http://www.revolvr.com/new-bad-enhanced-pin-set-titanium.html

Posted: 10/1/2014 10:33:07 PM EDT

[#26]

I ordered a set and have to say I think they look great against a totally black gun

Posted: 10/2/2014 12:01:28 AM EDT

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Agreed!

Posted: 10/2/2014 5:58:50 PM EDT

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The weight of the pins are (per our shop scale):

BAD-EPS-Ti (Enhanced Pin Set - Titanium) = 0.016 lbs = 0.256 ounces

BAD-EPS (Enhanced Pin Set - Steel) = 0.030 lbs = 0.48 ounces

We will be releasing the Titanium version in BLACK soon but we are completely sold out of the natural Titanium Pin Sets from the first production batch and the next two shipments are already spoken for.
Soon as we are able to catch up with demand we will have the black finish version available.
Thank you.
George

Posted: 10/2/2014 8:37:02 PM EDT

[#29]

Will Ti take Duracoat,Cerakote, Krylon?

Would look good in some camo colors.

Posted: 10/5/2014 12:40:40 PM EDT

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Yes, it will but painting the pins will add thickness and change the tolerance of the pin diameter unless you only paint the heads and leave the shaft unpainted. Since it is around a diameter, any paint thickness build-up is going to be x 2, which further increase the chance the pins to be too tight or not fit into the receiver at all.

Anodizing or PVD are options that will not impact the tolerances much. You can also heat treat the titanium to have different multi-colored effects like we were doing here for fun on the lightweight prototype rifle.