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Posted: 2/18/2014 6:38:27 PM EDT
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Any videos demonstrating operation, adjustment, dis-assembly, etc.?
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Well shit just got a da7 about a month ago. Might have to start another build and use one of these
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When is the 2nd production run scheduled?
Need the .625 for a LW build I am doing |
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Any videos demonstrating operation, adjustment, dis-assembly, etc.? View Quote We will get to that as they roll out. Operation is just like the DA Series but .. -with considerably more spring pressure -even more refined precision metering screw - total disassembly in seconds if need be. -detent design not effected by carbon and heat and not subject to a tiny bore for a ball / spring to be easily fouled in place. Thanks Todd |
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When is the 2nd production run scheduled? Need the .625 for a LW build I am doing View Quote I'll be honest it'll be 2 months or so The 6's have about 2% of the demand that the 7/9's do. They are coming though. The 6's are getting their own tiny profile this time. You could wear one as a ring they are so tiny. Todd |
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You and me both. I might have to order this one and save the other for later. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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and this comes out the day my DAC7-C shows up LoL You and me both. I might have to order this one and save the other for later. Thanks guys, We will offer deep discounts on the Sentry Gas blocks for you guy's who purchased DA Series within 30 days of the Sentry blocks going live on the site. I knew this would be an issue but we have to keep moving forward while expanding and improving our product line. I had to play this close to the vest for a long time while certain things were completed and locked in place. Todd |
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...so Todd, if I'm not satisfied with my DA7 and DA7-C units, I can still return them and get my money back?
...or can i just have any refund due applied towards the purchase of three of these sweet new gas blocks!! LOL, all joking aside, I was just about to order another DA7-C after checking what 's new on ARFCOM and now....I think I can wait till these come out...I'lll be combining it with another Solo as well, and who knows, ya just might have another version of HG up by then as well BTW, am I seeing a bore between the set screws to allow pinning of these to the barrel? Melonite/QPQ treated? Kudos, and still behind your products 100% v/r Rick |
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Please no melanite finish..Several gunsmiths i send my stuff to wont pin a melonited gas block View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I need a 6 also. Melonite finished? Please no melanite finish..Several gunsmiths i send my stuff to wont pin a melonited gas block It looks like these will already have a pin hole, so what would be the problem? |
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Oh shit. I know where I'll be spending some money in the very near future.
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So what's the functional advantage of these over the DA-7? Less likely to break, and more suitable for duty use?
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This will be my first adjustable gas block and I plan on making in go on an sbr MATEN project.........Is this gas block overkill for my needs?
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So what's the functional advantage of these over the DA-7? Less likely to break, and more suitable for duty use? View Quote A few things. The foremost reason is the height from the top of the barrel bore to the top of the gas block is much less. We needed to do that to make compatibility 100% with all HG systems. Especially on the 8/9 size blocks. Our detent on the DA series would not allow that. You cannot get a smaller detent with enough spring pressure to work reliably. What is done by others I will not do If a tiny ball is used it must travel in a tiny bore with tight tolerances to keep it in place. Any spec if grit, carbon or whatever stops that ball from moving. Multiply that over years of use and it just dose not work. Same with a tiny coiled spring in that same bore as the ball. You don't want that ball just pushed up against the adjustment screw totally. Disassembly becomes risky at best and it traps carbon and grit in place which is a killer on adjustable blocks. Our detents on the DA's don't really have that problem as the ball gets to move around a bit when pushed up which helps clean it up a bit before it rests back down. Being a captured ball in the detent allows the adj screw to be removed without losing parts and keeps the ball off the adj screw not trapping carbon. The detent on the DA's are outsourced from Germany. I really wanted to mfg all the parts in house and keep the supply chain simple for the Sentry series. The Sentry series are super low profile allowing AR15/AR10 use under pure tube HG's. Those types of HG's are super popular today so meeting that target was a no brainer. As regular gas tube is now used on all Sentry blocks which is super nice. I'm sure JP Rifles will miss the DA8/9 straight gas tube sales. LoL The Ti leaf spring allows more spring pressure for even more positive engagement along with total corrosion resistance. Getting rid of the coiled spring and ball is huge when looking at years and years of use. It relatively huge in comparison to a coiled spring as well. The single screw on the side allows the entire gas block to be dissembled in less time than it takes to type this sentence. Total disassembly is nice if you go for 2 years without cleaning your rifle or you shoot a bunch of .22LR though it like i do. The SS plunger under the leaf spring floats but is captured from totally bottoming out in the adjustment screw slots. This allows carbon to pass through without building up and also allows the adj screw to be removed without fear of losing the plunger. The adjustment screw has been refined with a proprietary threading and shape allowing the same 100% gas seal at closed and even better fouling resistance. This is the heart of the block and the toughest to get right when making the blocks/screws in the thousands. We have tried multiple surface treatments, materials over the years. What we spec in production gives the best mix of reliability, production consistency and overall cost. Thats a very small look at the endless hours trying to make the perfect wide range adjustable gas block. Ha- wall of text. Can I go eat dinner with my family now ? They are looking at me like Thanks Todd |
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This will be my first adjustable gas block and I plan on making in go on an sbr MATEN project.........Is this gas block overkill for my needs? View Quote No its perfect. I run one on my 10.5" MaTen. If you want to run suppressed and unsuppressed on a SBR .308 AR you will need adjustable gas to attain real reliability. |
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Please no melanite finish..Several gunsmiths i send my stuff to wont pin a melonited gas block View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I need a 6 also. Melonite finished? Please no melanite finish..Several gunsmiths i send my stuff to wont pin a melonited gas block Why? I'm sure they explained to you the reasons. |
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They said the metal surface is too hard..Adco wont even do it
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Did you miss the part where the block is already drilled for a pin, should you choose to pin it in addition to the set screws? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They said the metal surface is too hard..Adco wont even do it Did you miss the part where the block is already drilled for a pin, should you choose to pin it in addition to the set screws? Taper pins need flush contact as it goes through the block and barrel. So even though there are holes in the block, it still needs to be reamed with a taper reamer. I think it's a good call to not melonite it. |
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Quoted: Thanks guys, We will offer deep discounts on the Sentry Gas blocks for you guy's who purchased DA Series within 30 days of the Sentry blocks going live on the site. I knew this would be an issue but we have to keep moving forward while expanding and improving our product line. I had to play this close to the vest for a long time while certain things were completed and locked in place. Todd View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: and this comes out the day my DAC7-C shows up LoL You and me both. I might have to order this one and save the other for later. Thanks guys, We will offer deep discounts on the Sentry Gas blocks for you guy's who purchased DA Series within 30 days of the Sentry blocks going live on the site. I knew this would be an issue but we have to keep moving forward while expanding and improving our product line. I had to play this close to the vest for a long time while certain things were completed and locked in place. Todd Todd, Just received my DA-7 in the mail. A well made unit and fits really good to the BRO 20" .308 barrel. Put me in for a Sentry when it arrives. Will post some pictures as soon as the new 15" .308 Key-mods are ready...hopefully soon. |
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Did you miss the part where the block is already drilled for a pin, should you choose to pin it in addition to the set screws? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They said the metal surface is too hard..Adco wont even do it Did you miss the part where the block is already drilled for a pin, should you choose to pin it in addition to the set screws? |
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They said the metal surface is too hard..Adco wont even do it Did you miss the part where the block is already drilled for a pin, should you choose to pin it in addition to the set screws? The Sentry set screw blocks are not drilled through but have a flat milled so it's easier to start a hole for a pin. Usually if a block is pinned the set screws are not used at all. Todd |
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The Sentry set screw blocks are not drilled through but have a flat milled so it's easier to start a hole for a pin. Usually if a block is pinned the set screws are not used at all. Todd View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They said the metal surface is too hard..Adco wont even do it Did you miss the part where the block is already drilled for a pin, should you choose to pin it in addition to the set screws? The Sentry set screw blocks are not drilled through but have a flat milled so it's easier to start a hole for a pin. Usually if a block is pinned the set screws are not used at all. Todd Gotcha, it looked like a pin hole from what I could see. I've never had an issue with set screw blocks moving, but I always dimple the barrel if it's not already dimpled. |
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This is perfect for two builds I am planning. I can't wait for them to come out.
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Dropped off first batch of the Sentry-7 set screw version to the plater today.
So about a week away. Sentry-7 Clamp On started production today So about 2 weeks out Sentry-9 Clamp On start end of the week so about 3 weeks out on those Thanks Todd |
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How many available after being picked up from plating if you don't mind me asking. Asking just so I know if I need to jump on it ASAP or can wait a few days to buy.
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How many available after being picked up from plating if you don't mind me asking. Asking just so I know if I need to jump on it ASAP or can wait a few days to buy. View Quote Thanks Art, Hundreds. They may last a week. Constant flow of these coming every week so if they go out of stock it won't be for long. |
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Hey, I procrastinated again and once again, it paid off. I think I'll get one of these instead of the DA7 I was going to order.
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Crap, Now I have to wait to order. I need a 13" & 15" 3gun HG and a 15"Solo and 2 Sentry-7 GB. Hope everything is in stock when the (clamp on)Sentry-7's come in.
Tax refund is burning a hole in my pocket! |
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Sentry 9's-Set screw and Clamp on's got a bump up in the schedule. I should have them just after the Sentry7-Set Screw versions are released.
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Crap, Now I have to wait to order. I need a 13" & 15" 3gun HG and a 15"Solo and 2 Sentry-7 GB. Hope everything is in stock when the (clamp on)Sentry-7's come in. Tax refund is burning a hole in my pocket! It should be. Thank you! Glad to hear. The wife wants a new PS4 but I talked her out of it for a "New pretty" lite weight rail and block for her 20" 10# pig. She's happy with that over a PS4 |
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Will the clamp on .750 block fit under the NSR?
Really tight on the bottom inside the NSR. thanks |
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Just talked to you guys about my 3 gun setup. What great help and very knowledgeable. I am definitely intrigued.
Count me in for the 15'' 3gun rail and the sentry. |
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