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Posted: 1/29/2014 11:58:18 AM EDT
Demo video 600 yards!
http://youtu.be/aUMXsBShNtQ?list=PLH-z2B3LX1bmDrRuNVrh4AUEanb5jAmMT 
14X Sight view 
4X Sight view illuminated 
Quick test footage of it action at 300-400-500 yards using M80 Ball http://youtu.be/aCws9c_EiL4 600 yards 175 SMK demo http://youtu.be/aUMXsBShNtQ?list=PLH-z2B3LX1bmDrRuNVrh4AUEanb5jAmMT Shooter and Designer Dimitri Mikroulis |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 12:22:51 PM EDT
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If you need any Independent Testers, for Unbiased Reviews, I would gladly throw my hat into the ring.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 12:27:26 PM EDT
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Cool, how accurrate are the holds since its for 7.62 and 5.56? What types of ammo were they meant for?
Also you dont explain what the dots along the verticle axis represent? As in the ones between the 500, 600, 700, etc ranges? Are they just mildots? Also as for "busy-ness" I think I could do without the torso ranging being right next to the center crosshair. On the bottom left would be preferrable. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 12:28:52 PM EDT
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A bit busy for me, but I like it. what's the pricing like?
I would be putting it on a 16" .308 if I picked one up. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:27:50 PM EDT
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Intrested in one for 5.56.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:56:08 PM EDT
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Would love to try one of these out on my savage fcp .308. Have your 1-6 ACSS on my 16" AR and love it.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 9:40:36 PM EDT
[#6]
Damn that looks good !
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Posted: 1/29/2014 9:47:00 PM EDT
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What is the tube size? Is that a primary arms bubble level on the scope?
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Posted: 1/30/2014 4:20:24 AM EDT
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What is the tube size? Is that a primary arms bubble level on the scope? Looks to be based off their standard ffp 4-14, if so it's a 30 mm tube. I was thinking of getting the standard one until I can afford something high end, but I might have to wait for this one now. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 6:27:28 AM EDT
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Well I want it.
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Posted: 1/30/2014 6:32:01 AM EDT
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Finally a inovative recticle! Loved the horse shoe for a while--hated thats a 2moa center dot, nice to see a way to somewhat fine point aim!
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Posted: 1/30/2014 6:39:40 AM EDT
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I like it!
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Posted: 1/30/2014 6:49:43 AM EDT
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Timing is great!
I'm looking for new glass for my .308. Great job Marshall.
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Posted: 1/30/2014 8:46:54 PM EDT
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what timing, i too am looking for something for my 16" 308! price?
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Posted: 1/31/2014 2:39:19 PM EDT
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Cool, how accurrate are the holds since its for 7.62 and 5.56? What types of ammo were they meant for? Also you dont explain what the dots along the verticle axis represent? As in the ones between the 500, 600, 700, etc ranges? Are they just mildots? Also as for "busy-ness" I think I could do without the torso ranging being right next to the center crosshair. On the bottom left would be preferrable. Ballistic data is posted. The mils are explained in mill section.Everything on the reticle is there and located where its at for a reason. We sim test just about any reticle you can imagine, this is the best of the best for the task on hand. It's out F22 if you will. Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 2:41:12 PM EDT
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A bit busy for me, but I like it. what's the pricing like? I would be putting it on a 16" .308 if I picked one up. Not as busy as looking at data and doing math while a round zips over your head! LOL Its actually very clean when looking through it in person. Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 2:42:06 PM EDT
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Intrested in one for 5.56. 5.56 does not line up really well it tends to go high. The 1-6 and other standard ACSS are based on 5.56 Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 2:43:36 PM EDT
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Would love to try one of these out on my savage fcp .308. Have your 1-6 ACSS on my 16" AR and love it. Yeah its perfect for bolt guns rem700 savage and so on. Its also perfect for Ar10 M1A using M80! Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 2:45:04 PM EDT
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Damn that looks good ! Thank you. My brain hurt after designing it !! Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 2:45:58 PM EDT
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Finally a inovative recticle! Loved the horse shoe for a while--hated thats a 2moa center dot, nice to see a way to somewhat fine point aim! Thank you A lot of testing went into it. Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 3:40:37 PM EDT
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Shot this yesterday at 800 yards 7-10mph full value wind using BDC 175SMK Blkhills red box.
Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 3:50:20 PM EDT
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What is the tube size? Is that a primary arms bubble level on the scope? Tube is 30mm the bubble is an add on anticant device its a must for long range shooting. Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 3:56:00 PM EDT
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Will this stand up to .308 bolt gun recoil.
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Posted: 1/31/2014 4:31:26 PM EDT
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Will this stand up to .308 bolt gun recoil. Oh yeah the 4-14 its in has been around for a while with great review and test results. Its why we stuck it in that model only difference is the reticle and illumination. Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 6:05:10 PM EDT
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when is it available
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Posted: 1/31/2014 6:17:03 PM EDT
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when is it available should be here in a couple months Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 6:21:27 PM EDT
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If it were geared for 175 grain smks it looks like it would probably also track for 77s. Its pretty flat dope considering the design intent to be 556/308 compatible.
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Posted: 1/31/2014 9:00:01 PM EDT
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If it were geared for 175 grain smks it looks like it would probably also track for 77s. Its pretty flat dope considering the design intent to be 556/308 compatible. Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 11:55:27 PM EDT
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Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Any idea how it would work with 168 smk at 2950? My savage loves them (plus I have a ton of them lol). |
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Posted: 2/1/2014 6:24:39 PM EDT
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Any idea how it would work with 168 smk at 2950? My savage loves them (plus I have a ton of them lol). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Any idea how it would work with 168 smk at 2950? My savage loves them (plus I have a ton of them lol). A .308 Winchester doing 2950 with 168 SMK!!! That seems way too fast!!!! Dimitri |
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Posted: 2/1/2014 10:02:05 PM EDT
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A .308 Winchester doing 2950 with 168 SMK!!! That seems way too fast!!!! Dimitri Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Any idea how it would work with 168 smk at 2950? My savage loves them (plus I have a ton of them lol). A .308 Winchester doing 2950 with 168 SMK!!! That seems way too fast!!!! Dimitri Oops  typo, meant 2650. I don't know how much if any ballistic difference there would be with a 7 gr lighter round? 2950 fps with 168 would be a hell of a round lol!
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:33:56 PM EDT
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Could this reticle track right with a 6.5 123 grain A-max starting at 2550 fps at the muzzle with a BC of .510.
I'm wondering if it would work for 65grendel or 65creedmore. |
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Posted: 2/3/2014 2:40:11 PM EDT
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Oops typo, meant 2650. I don't know how much if any ballistic difference there would be with a 7 gr lighter round? 2950 fps with 168 would be a hell of a round lol!
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Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Any idea how it would work with 168 smk at 2950? My savage loves them (plus I have a ton of them lol). A .308 Winchester doing 2950 with 168 SMK!!! That seems way too fast!!!! Dimitri Oops typo, meant 2650. I don't know how much if any ballistic difference there would be with a 7 gr lighter round? 2950 fps with 168 would be a hell of a round lol!
With 200 yard 0 Your on out to 800 about 18" low at 900 and 34" at 1000 so hold on top of target. Hope this helps and remember your round, you and environmental will give you anywhere from 3-5 MOA so you will be 50" high or low anyways. For fast shots your good if you need to be dead on just dial in. Dimitri |
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Posted: 2/3/2014 8:24:12 PM EDT
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Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it were geared for 175 grain smks it looks like it would probably also track for 77s. Its pretty flat dope considering the design intent to be 556/308 compatible. Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Perhaps m118 in meters would have mirrored 262 in yds then? |
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Posted: 2/3/2014 8:25:45 PM EDT
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Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it were geared for 175 grain smks it looks like it would probably also track for 77s. Its pretty flat dope considering the design intent to be 556/308 compatible. Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Perhaps m118 in meters would have mirrored 262 in yds then? |
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Posted: 2/3/2014 8:26:56 PM EDT
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Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it were geared for 175 grain smks it looks like it would probably also track for 77s. Its pretty flat dope considering the design intent to be 556/308 compatible. Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Perhaps m118 in meters would have mirrored 262 in yds then? |
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Posted: 2/3/2014 8:50:31 PM EDT
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A chevron in a horseshoe? I think you guys just divided by zero.
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Posted: 2/6/2014 11:53:41 AM EDT
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Perhaps m118 in meters would have mirrored 262 in yds then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it were geared for 175 grain smks it looks like it would probably also track for 77s. Its pretty flat dope considering the design intent to be 556/308 compatible. Its based on 175smk at 2650 this lines up with bolt guns also lines up ball ammo with M14/M1A AR.308 the .223 loads line up out to 700-800 yards. Studies show its always better to be low then high. A target standing is 5'10" from center mass and up its about 20" but going low you have up to 50" with an additional 20" high. I hope this makes sense I have spend years developing this. Dimitri Perhaps m118 in meters would have mirrored 262 in yds then? There are 218 yards in 200 meters. M118 at what fps? They list fps but depending on what rifle you fire it out of the BDC changes. Shot this at 600 yards yesterday using M80 surplus ball. 
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Posted: 2/6/2014 11:54:11 AM EDT
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A chevron in a horseshoe? I think you guys just divided by zero. LOL what? |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 12:41:15 AM EDT
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Release date and price?
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Posted: 2/19/2014 9:40:55 AM EDT
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5.56 does not line up really well it tends to go high.
The 1-6 and other standard ACSS are based on 5.56 Is this scope primarily for the 308 or 5.56. I don't understand your response. if it shoots high for the 5.56 what good is it. i would have to constantly look at my ballistic tables after ranging to find the drop. |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 3:21:28 PM EDT
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5.56 does not line up really well it tends to go high. The 1-6 and other standard ACSS are based on 5.56 Is this scope primarily for the 308 or 5.56. I don't understand your response. if it shoots high for the 5.56 what good is it. i would have to constantly look at my ballistic tables after ranging to find the drop. You need to fit your trajectory to the reticle. Maybe zero low at range of choice. You should be within a few inches at most of the range marks. You need to pick your zero for best fit. I don't believe this is a headshot @ 900m optic except for possibly with the 175g load out of 26" barrel bolt gun? in which the reticle is calibrated exactly (close to). 
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Posted: 2/19/2014 10:03:03 PM EDT
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Release date and price? Should be May/June Dimitri |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 10:40:37 PM EDT
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You need to fit your trajectory to the reticle. Maybe zero low at range of choice. You should be within a few inches at most of the range marks. You need to pick your zero for best fit. I don't believe this is a headshot @ 900m optic except for possibly with the 175g load out of 26" barrel bolt gun? in which the reticle is calibrated exactly (close to). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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5.56 does not line up really well it tends to go high. The 1-6 and other standard ACSS are based on 5.56 Is this scope primarily for the 308 or 5.56. I don't understand your response. if it shoots high for the 5.56 what good is it. i would have to constantly look at my ballistic tables after ranging to find the drop. You need to fit your trajectory to the reticle. Maybe zero low at range of choice. You should be within a few inches at most of the range marks. You need to pick your zero for best fit. I don't believe this is a headshot @ 900m optic except for possibly with the 175g load out of 26" barrel bolt gun? in which the reticle is calibrated exactly (close to). We tested 5.56 1" low M193 and hot hits all the way out to 600 and using M855 1.5-2" low it seems to be on out to 900. As far as a 900m head shot well that comes into correct data input. Dimitri |
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Posted: 4/8/2014 9:18:09 PM EDT
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This would lineup perfect with a 123 grn grendel round out to 1k yards. Nearly identical trajectory as a 180 grain accubond / amax.
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Posted: 4/8/2014 9:19:55 PM EDT
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This would lineup perfect with a 123 grn grendel round out to 1k yards. Nearly identical trajectory as a 180 grain accubond / amax.
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Posted: 4/8/2014 10:04:08 PM EDT
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Looks nice! Well thought out.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:42:00 PM EDT
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Does it still look like the May/June release date is intact? Any word on what kind of price range we are looking at?
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Posted: 4/20/2014 6:17:43 PM EDT
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So how far off would it be for a 6.8SPC2...I can Handload 110gr Barnes Tipped TSX to 2800fps in a 20in Barrel...Im about 85% a .308 out to 500 yards...
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Posted: 4/21/2014 12:40:30 PM EDT
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So how far off would it be for a 6.8SPC2...I can Handload 110gr Barnes Tipped TSX to 2800fps in a 20in Barrel...Im about 85% a .308 out to 500 yards... Dialed in at .5" high at 100 yards your back on out to 600 yards after that it falls off Dimitri |
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Posted: 5/1/2014 3:03:33 PM EDT
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Still a June eta?
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