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Posted: 1/22/2014 9:51:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/29/2014 11:48:53 AM EDT by RainierArms-Sales]
Link Posted: 1/22/2014 9:52:22 PM EDT
Damn that's ugly. I like it.
Link Posted: 1/22/2014 10:35:45 PM EDT
make it 5/8 x 24 and take my money...
Link Posted: 1/22/2014 10:49:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2014 10:53:53 PM EDT by RDTCU]
So is this better than a YHM flash hider or muzzle brake suppressor mount with a SSS brake shield? It's a lot cheaper and you don't have to have access to the collar to remove it.



Is the brake compatible with any QD suppressors? If not, why make the shroud QD?

I'm all for innovation and new ideas, just not seeing the advantage.
Link Posted: 1/22/2014 11:19:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2014 11:44:29 PM EDT
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Question about that dudes helmet/earpro.......


Are his earpro attached on some sort of flip mount on the sides of his helmet? They look like they flip up. If so, what's the mount and what brands/models of earpro does it work with?
Link Posted: 1/23/2014 1:05:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2014 1:09:08 AM EDT by pc-ops]
mis post
Link Posted: 1/23/2014 1:06:17 AM EDT
interesting concept, but, is there any way to reduce the size of the concussion reducer, cause that looks ginormous.
Link Posted: 1/23/2014 1:15:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nokozon:
interesting concept, but, is there any way to reduce the size of the concussion reducer, cause that looks ginormous.
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Make it too small and it turns it into a suppressor.
Link Posted: 1/23/2014 1:25:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sturmjr:
Question about that dudes helmet/earpro.......


Are his earpro attached on some sort of flip mount on the sides of his helmet? They look like they flip up. If so, what's the mount and what brands/models of earpro does it work with?
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They look a bit like the 3M / Peltor set attached to a Team Wendy Exfil (according to the video) helmet.

As for how this compares to the Brakesheild, I believe that they claimed in another thread that the ports on the unit help maintain rearward-recoil reduction of the brake. I haven't tried either, but without the ports, too much of the blast was supposedly directed forward, defeating some of the effectiveness of the brake.
Link Posted: 1/23/2014 7:33:58 AM EDT
Now that your carrying ferfrans stuff, please sell their rate reducing m16 bolt carriers. They are not available anywhere and would sell well to those with m16s.
Link Posted: 1/24/2014 8:18:00 PM EDT
Can you pin this to a 14.5 barrel?
Link Posted: 1/24/2014 11:59:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 12:00:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:55:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RainierArms-Sales:
Ferfrans CQB Modular Muzzle Brake System

*** Click on a photo for ordering info and pricing ***

Description:

The new Ferfrans CQB Modular Muzzle Brake System is a two part system consisting of the performance MUZZLE BRAKE MOUNT + CRD (Concussion Reduction Device) which features a built in quick attach/detach mechanism.


Specs:

Muzzle Brake Mount Specs:
Weight - 4.0 oz
Length - 2.28"
Brake Thread Pattern - 1/2x28
Caliber - (.223/556)

CRD (Concussion Reduction Device) Specs:
Length - 2.17"
Width - 1.6" Diameter

Total weight of the system combined is 10.4 ounces.


<a href="http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4189" target="_blank">https://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/eca97fe38ad8f21de036aaccf0412107.jpg</a>

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Whoa check out that Rainier Arms BUIS front sight!!
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 7:49:34 AM EDT
a 308 version would be amazing!
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 12:45:00 PM EDT
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Whoa check out that Rainier Arms BUIS front sight!!
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Originally Posted By RainierArms-Sales:
Ferfrans CQB Modular Muzzle Brake System

*** Click on a photo for ordering info and pricing ***

Description:

The new Ferfrans CQB Modular Muzzle Brake System is a two part system consisting of the performance MUZZLE BRAKE MOUNT + CRD (Concussion Reduction Device) which features a built in quick attach/detach mechanism.


Specs:

Muzzle Brake Mount Specs:
Weight - 4.0 oz
Length - 2.28"
Brake Thread Pattern - 1/2x28
Caliber - (.223/556)

CRD (Concussion Reduction Device) Specs:
Length - 2.17"
Width - 1.6" Diameter

Total weight of the system combined is 10.4 ounces.


<a href="http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4189" target="_blank">https://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/eca97fe38ad8f21de036aaccf0412107.jpg</a>

<a href="http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4189" target="_blank">https://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/b2bbc22dd9406388643679705637b53d.jpg</a>

<a href="http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4189" target="_blank">https://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/1745a54a721ac7260bc2b5db42623032.jpg</a>

<a href="http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4189" target="_blank">https://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/c5b257990d50fb571ef704a922073ce7.jpg</a>


Whoa check out that Rainier Arms BUIS front sight!!


https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4188
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:40:22 PM EDT
They are Diamondhead BUIS.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 2:05:53 PM EDT
what does this do that a noveske kx3 doesn't?
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 2:54:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/27/2014 8:23:15 PM EDT
Nice. This is on my short list. I don't make any friends at the range when I have my SBR out.
Link Posted: 1/27/2014 10:20:53 PM EDT
Oh man I need one of these on my new rig.....

Time to find my stash cash...
Link Posted: 1/29/2014 3:27:52 PM EDT
Hello,

How much clearance between the rail and the device do we need? To be more exact...can I run this on 10.3 barrel with 9.5 rail or an 11.5 barrel with a 10.75 rail?

Thanks
Green.
Link Posted: 1/29/2014 4:08:52 PM EDT
Wouldn't mind having something like this for my MB556Ks.
Link Posted: 1/29/2014 5:59:06 PM EDT
Are there any plans for a QD suppressor that can mount to the brake? If so, that would be the biggest advantage of the QD shroud, for use when the suppressor is off.
Link Posted: 1/30/2014 11:38:04 PM EDT
It seems to be a good product but unless you're in the military or a contractor there's no reason to waste your money on it.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 12:19:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jinks1011:
It seems to be a good product but unless you're in the military or a contractor there's no reason to waste your money on it.
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It's quite obvious that you have never been next to someone firing their SBR.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 12:56:55 AM EDT
I've been posting about wanting something like this for years (and I'm not an operator).
MB for maximizing control and recoil reduction when at the range, but a shroud to project noise and blast forward for HD and shooting close to others at a carbine class). 4oz is a bit heavy for a brake, but it probably is more rugged to be a solid attachment place.

I wish all brakes offered a QD shroud like this...some could focus, like this one on recoil reduction, some could turn it into a flash hider.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 6:54:11 AM EDT
how strong is the shroud brake interface....incase you dropped it?
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 8:22:17 AM EDT
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It's quite obvious that you have never been next to someone firing their SBR.
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Originally Posted By jinks1011:
It seems to be a good product but unless you're in the military or a contractor there's no reason to waste your money on it.


It's quite obvious that you have never been next to someone firing their SBR.


Oh please my 7.5 ARP with Kx3 has barely any recoil, and the noise is mostly sent forward, doesn't sound any louder than a std AR.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 8:37:20 AM EDT
Most of you on this site post like your special forces. I'm just saying theres nothing wrong with collecting and loving weapon systems but how about not standing that close to the muzzle.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 8:42:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jinks1011:
Most of you on this site post like your special forces. I'm just saying theres nothing wrong with collecting and loving weapon systems but how about not standing that close to the muzzle.
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Never shot a match or shot near a wall with a brake, have you?
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 8:49:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By btbossman:


Oh please my 7.5 ARP with Kx3 has barely any recoil, and the noise is mostly sent forward, doesn't sound any louder than a std AR.
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Originally Posted By btbossman:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By jinks1011:
It seems to be a good product but unless you're in the military or a contractor there's no reason to waste your money on it.


It's quite obvious that you have never been next to someone firing their SBR.


Oh please my 7.5 ARP with Kx3 has barely any recoil, and the noise is mostly sent forward, doesn't sound any louder than a std AR.



Thanks for making my point. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT A KX3 IS DESIGINED TO DO!
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 11:31:36 AM EDT
No I have not. My job is not with weapons but there isn't a civilian scenario where this comes in handy. I don't have to clear a room everyday. It's a neat toy. When I build a rifle I have a purpose for what goes on it.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 11:42:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jinks1011:
No I have not. My job is not with weapons but there isn't a civilian scenario where this comes in handy. I don't have to clear a room everyday. It's a neat toy. When I build a rifle I have a purpose for what goes on it.
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So do I, but according to you, shooting matches makes us "special forces" wannabes?
I bought a KX3, which is similar to this thing in concept, because I like my fillings to stay in place when shooting my SBR.
When shooting CQ matches, there are walls and barrels, and there is usually a range officer with the timer right beside or behind you.

A "civilian scenario" doesn't usually require an AR-15 either, yet here we are.

You can be a fudd if you want to, you sound a bit like one.

The other guys can buy whatever expensive farkles they want to hang on their boutique rifles.

You won't get along well with people on a site like this going around saying "You don't need that"
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 12:02:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jinks1011:
No I have not. My job is not with weapons but there isn't a civilian scenario where this comes in handy. I don't have to clear a room everyday. It's a neat toy. When I build a rifle I have a purpose for what goes on it.
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Why are you even posting in this thread then?

SBRs have increased muzzle blast, noise, and concussion.

Muzzle brakes exacerbate this effect. The outer "shell" is designed to reduce the muzzle blast esp. to the sides of the weapon without disabling the muzzle brake effect.

Google "SBR fireball" you can see some huge fireballs where the blast consumes the front of handguard. Get your hand too close to the muzzle you might take some damage.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 3:47:48 PM EDT
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It is awesome with and without the reduction device on. Off to blow up your shooting neighbors and on when I'm sweeping tight quarters. Just a heads up, it is HEAVIER with the shroud on, a lot heavier. Balances nicely with a 10.3 tho

This is my home defense setup in progress and the CRD def has civilian application for that purpose
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 3:50:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By drabchoi:
how strong is the shroud brake interface....incase you dropped it?
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It is a solid heavy piece of steel
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 3:51:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By emtothedee:
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/null_zps02699b7a.jpg

It is awesome with and without the reduction device on. Off to blow up your shooting neighbors and on when I'm sweeping tight quarters. Just a heads up, it is HEAVIER with the shroud on, a lot heavier. Balances nicely with a 10.3 tho

This is my home defense setup in progress and the CRD def has civilian application for that purpose
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I still want to know if the intent was to have a QD suppressor to mount on the same brake, because that would make sense.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 4:01:14 PM EDT
i spoke with ferdi and i think i remember him mentioning that they have a suppressor or are making one. I would assume it would attach to the same brake
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 11:00:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By emtothedee:
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/null_zps02699b7a.jpg

It is awesome with and without the reduction device on. Off to blow up your shooting neighbors and on when I'm sweeping tight quarters. Just a heads up, it is HEAVIER with the shroud on, a lot heavier. Balances nicely with a 10.3 tho

This is my home defense setup in progress and the CRD def has civilian application for that purpose
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That is actually better looking than I thought. How is the recoil mitigation, both with, and without the shroud? I am setting up a rifle for use in "patrol rifle" matches, and some of them frown on full-on brakes. For reference, my other match rifle uses a Bennie Cooley brake (if you are familiar with it).
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 11:05:33 PM EDT
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For reference, my other match rifle uses a Bennie Cooley brake (if you are familiar with it).
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WHAT?

Link Posted: 2/1/2014 12:27:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By webman:


That is actually better looking than I thought. How is the recoil mitigation, both with, and without the shroud? I am setting up a rifle for use in "patrol rifle" matches, and some of them frown on full-on brakes. For reference, my other match rifle uses a Bennie Cooley brake (if you are familiar with it).
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Originally Posted By emtothedee:
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/null_zps02699b7a.jpg

It is awesome with and without the reduction device on. Off to blow up your shooting neighbors and on when I'm sweeping tight quarters. Just a heads up, it is HEAVIER with the shroud on, a lot heavier. Balances nicely with a 10.3 tho

This is my home defense setup in progress and the CRD def has civilian application for that purpose


That is actually better looking than I thought. How is the recoil mitigation, both with, and without the shroud? I am setting up a rifle for use in "patrol rifle" matches, and some of them frown on full-on brakes. For reference, my other match rifle uses a Bennie Cooley brake (if you are familiar with it).


It is very good at reducing the recoil without the reduction device. With it on, there is a noticable addition of a rearward impulse, but a huge decrease in sound. It is less concussive than my 16 in rifle with a griffin flash comp II.
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 1:16:53 AM EDT
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WHAT?

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Originally Posted By webman:
For reference, my other match rifle uses a Bennie Cooley brake (if you are familiar with it).



WHAT?



Hey, it gives me an excuse to learn sign language!
Link Posted: 2/4/2014 1:29:04 AM EDT
What are the specs on your upper?
Link Posted: 2/6/2014 1:05:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/8/2014 9:46:53 PM EDT
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Wow, I have to say that is one of the neatest pictures I have ever seen. I agree with you RDTCU, this would make a great alternative to a suppressor that uses the same mount in scenario's where length (or lack thereof) takes paramount over noise discipline. Neat product.
Link Posted: 2/8/2014 11:27:49 PM EDT
10.4 ounces?!

Holy hell... that's like sticking a full can of beer on the end of your rifle. That's some heavy-ass stuff.
Link Posted: 2/9/2014 12:20:13 PM EDT
Nice.
Link Posted: 2/11/2014 3:07:58 AM EDT
Any plans for a 30 cal CRD? I would like to put one on my 300 blk pistol.

operator....

Link Posted: 2/11/2014 4:17:16 AM EDT
Ugh. I just spent $400 in muzzle brakes getting all my barrels to fit the same SAS can.
I would be all over these outer shrouds for 3gun if they worked and they could fit onto a supressor mount. Though, even if they did I think a bunch of other companies cans would get made ahead of mine.

Also, I just realized that the dimensions would probably bump me into Open Division, in which case I would just use my supressor because I'm coming in dead last anyway.
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