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i got mine last week and like it had to trim the detent spring on the rear takedown to get it to fit correctly and the front takedown spring hole needed to get cleaned out. but so far its a masterpiece and fit is awesome
you can not use a BAD lever with these but with the ambi controls and finger shelf you dont need to. |
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That's a pretty trick lower! Great company to deal with too.
Will be building a new rifle with one of these soon. |
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i wonder how this will match up with AXTS adacs billet lowers.
glad to see more MFG delve into the full ambi market. |
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is it me or is there zero flare to the magwell opening? Nevermind, trick of the photos used. Can see the flare when watching the torture test video on the Rainer Arms website.
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the way the bolt release is. its thicker due to the rough texture but its a ambi reciever and your finger can hit it easily on the other side
I guess if you change the bolt release to a standard one you can |
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Looks nice, beautiful machine work.
Not a fan of the giant logo, or the three position safety markings. |
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This is a hot looking lower, and I even like the big logo. The way it assembles is great as well.
However, shouldn't the US flag be displayed with the stars on the right side since it is the right of the receiver? I was always taught that the stars go towards the front on a vehicle or person, so I would think that this rule would apply to guns as well. Maybe I'm being too picky though. |
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the stars go toward the operator. just like a regular flag would., if it was on the opposite side it would be in distress with the stars away from the operator
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This lower has been my favorite so far, by a long shot. I've never handled a lower that felt substantial but light at the same time - the machining and finish work is superb. It's also been the most drama-free build so far. I love that the "headache" parts were pre-installed, since I despise setting the bolt catch roll pin on my own. And my POF drop-in trigger did just that - didn't even need more than a single light tap with my mallet to get the KNS pins through and all ready to go. The Magpul MOE+ grip fits perfectly on here (I love the grip but sometimes have a gap on other receivers), and my BCM buffer tube assembly went on with no drama. I took the BCM kit off as soon as I fitted it, however, since I am thinking a UBR would be a nice stock to try this time.
Dennis, I have said it once already - but you made a kickass product. If you make one for the AR-10 platform I will have to buy it as well! You'd have a good launch as well since AXTS's AX762 seems to be vaporware at this point. |
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Why do people pronounce "ambidextrous" like there is an "I" after the "R?"
Nice looking lower, and looks like the only real competitor to the KAC lowers with the QD sockets.
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We've had the pleasure of working with Dennis at San Tan Tactical, easily one of the nicest guys in the industry. His customer service / support and ours have much in common.
Say, when are you going to announce the news, Dennis? |
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Quoted: We've had the pleasure of working with Dennis at San Tan Tactical, easily one of the nicest guys in the industry. His customer service / support and ours have much in common. Say, when are you going to announce the news, Dennis? View Quote |
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Quoted: We've had the pleasure of working with Dennis at San Tan Tactical, easily one of the nicest guys in the industry. His customer service / support and ours have much in common. Say, when are you going to announce the news, Dennis? View Quote You have the best selectors in the market hands down! And customer service that is unmatched! We are working on the matched upper as we speak! Just a bit more tooling and it is go time! |
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Quoted: If my news you mean an AR-10 upper I will have to break into my "emergency fund" lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: We've had the pleasure of working with Dennis at San Tan Tactical, easily one of the nicest guys in the industry. His customer service / support and ours have much in common. Say, when are you going to announce the news, Dennis? You will have a little time to save up but it is definitely on the WILL do list. |
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i think a partnership with Duffy and preinstalled EPP and CASS would so make this a screamer
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Thanks Duffy! You have the best selectors in the market hands down! And customer service that is unmatched! We are working on the matched upper as we speak! Just a bit more tooling and it is go time! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We've had the pleasure of working with Dennis at San Tan Tactical, easily one of the nicest guys in the industry. His customer service / support and ours have much in common. Say, when are you going to announce the news, Dennis? You have the best selectors in the market hands down! And customer service that is unmatched! We are working on the matched upper as we speak! Just a bit more tooling and it is go time! A matched upper would make these lowers a lot more enticing for me. I tend to keep my rifle receivers matched up whenever possible. Make sure you offer a matched set and I'm in to put one through its paces. |
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So is this lighter that Daniel Defense? is it stronger than Daniel Defense as well? I can see is faster to reload. You guys kind a stole their slogan.
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Quoted: So is this lighter that Daniel Defense? is it stronger than Daniel Defense as well? I can see is faster to reload. You guys kind a stole their slogan. View Quote Sn1p3r_1 That's a good question. Daniel Defense makes awesome stuff there is no two ways about it. However since they don't sell stripped lowers, I have never weighed one side by side, nor have I run one over with a truck like I have the STT-15. So to that extent your questions will remain a mystery. In regards to stealing their slogan that would be a negative. DD's slogan is lighter stronger better in reference to their rail systems. Not their lowers. Thank you for the questions, my apologies for not being able to answer them. |
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the stars go toward the operator. just like a regular flag would., if it was on the opposite side it would be in distress with the stars away from the operator View Quote As far as I know the stars are supposed to face 'forward' on the right side of vehicles and when worn on the right shoulder, because that is the way the flag would fly when advancing forward. If the stars are to the rear that would be like you were retreating. Look at the flags on the tail of Air Force One for an easy example. |
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Quoted: As far as I know the stars are supposed to face 'forward' on the right side of vehicles and when worn on the right shoulder, because that is the way the flag would fly when advancing forward. If the stars are to the rear that would be like you were retreating. Look at the flags on the tail of Air Force One for an easy example. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: the stars go toward the operator. just like a regular flag would., if it was on the opposite side it would be in distress with the stars away from the operator As far as I know the stars are supposed to face 'forward' on the right side of vehicles and when worn on the right shoulder, because that is the way the flag would fly when advancing forward. If the stars are to the rear that would be like you were retreating. Look at the flags on the tail of Air Force One for an easy example. Being a Navy person - it is the same logic we put towards the "crows" on our collar. Facing forward for normal times, facing behind us to "watch our backs" during an actual declared war. Dennis - when are these uppers coming out? I was literally about to hit "order" on a Mega MKM upper but have been split between that or using a billet upper with a Noveske NSR or KAC URX. For the NSR, however, only Noveske and Rainier uppers have the indexing pinhole in them - would that be something you add to your upper? As for the AR-10 lower - I will be waiting! |
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No ambi bho and you are calling this a true ambi lower? I hate companies that do that.
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AFAIK I have never seen one that does that besides LWRC and KAC - and the issue then is that your upper has to be notched for the paddle on the other side.
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Quoted: On a person or moving vehicle you would be completely true. But in terms of the weapon or another "stationary object" it is probably true to have the stars towards you. Being a Navy person - it is the same logic we put towards the "crows" on our collar. Facing forward for normal times, facing behind us to "watch our backs" during an actual declared war. Dennis - when are these uppers coming out? I was literally about to hit "order" on a Mega MKM upper but have been split between that or using a billet upper with a Noveske NSR or KAC URX. For the NSR, however, only Noveske and Rainier uppers have the indexing pinhole in them - would that be something you add to your upper? As for the AR-10 lower - I will be waiting! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: the stars go toward the operator. just like a regular flag would., if it was on the opposite side it would be in distress with the stars away from the operator As far as I know the stars are supposed to face 'forward' on the right side of vehicles and when worn on the right shoulder, because that is the way the flag would fly when advancing forward. If the stars are to the rear that would be like you were retreating. Look at the flags on the tail of Air Force One for an easy example. Being a Navy person - it is the same logic we put towards the "crows" on our collar. Facing forward for normal times, facing behind us to "watch our backs" during an actual declared war. Dennis - when are these uppers coming out? I was literally about to hit "order" on a Mega MKM upper but have been split between that or using a billet upper with a Noveske NSR or KAC URX. For the NSR, however, only Noveske and Rainier uppers have the indexing pinhole in them - would that be something you add to your upper? As for the AR-10 lower - I will be waiting! When displayed in a static maner, the stars go on the left. Remember the phrase, stars and stripes. Stars always first. However, on a moving object, such as the right sleeve of a uniform, the stars go forward, as if being carried into battle. I'd want the stars forward on my gun since it is a moving object. And its on the right side, so it should mimic the right sleeve. http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf Either way, that's a nice looking lower. |
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Quoted: I'm a fan of the forward moving flag. STT---any option for a forward flag down the road? Like this obviously photochopped rendering. http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3693/12138118605_60ba8ea400_o.jpg View Quote Actually LMTRocks that's not photoshoped. After our initial product launch of the lowers we received several calls and e-mails from service men and women letting us know that they felt the flag was backwards. When we originally chose the direction of the flag we put it so the union of stars was in the upper left hand corner so it would be correct if you were looking at the lower from the side. We researched and researched flag etiquette and did not find a definitive answer. The U.S. Code Title 4 Chapter 1 isn't clear on firearms. It calls out modes of transportation, military uniforms, packaging, retail consumer products, etc. We meant no disrespect once so ever. So to honor our service men and women we immediately changed the direction. We are almost finished with the new run and will be going out to our dealers soon. If you would like a STT-15 with the union leading just let us know and we can make that happen for you! |
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Quoted: On a person or moving vehicle you would be completely true. But in terms of the weapon or another "stationary object" it is probably true to have the stars towards you. Being a Navy person - it is the same logic we put towards the "crows" on our collar. Facing forward for normal times, facing behind us to "watch our backs" during an actual declared war. Dennis - when are these uppers coming out? I was literally about to hit "order" on a Mega MKM upper but have been split between that or using a billet upper with a Noveske NSR or KAC URX. For the NSR, however, only Noveske and Rainier uppers have the indexing pinhole in them - would that be something you add to your upper? As for the AR-10 lower - I will be waiting! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: the stars go toward the operator. just like a regular flag would., if it was on the opposite side it would be in distress with the stars away from the operator As far as I know the stars are supposed to face 'forward' on the right side of vehicles and when worn on the right shoulder, because that is the way the flag would fly when advancing forward. If the stars are to the rear that would be like you were retreating. Look at the flags on the tail of Air Force One for an easy example. Being a Navy person - it is the same logic we put towards the "crows" on our collar. Facing forward for normal times, facing behind us to "watch our backs" during an actual declared war. Dennis - when are these uppers coming out? I was literally about to hit "order" on a Mega MKM upper but have been split between that or using a billet upper with a Noveske NSR or KAC URX. For the NSR, however, only Noveske and Rainier uppers have the indexing pinhole in them - would that be something you add to your upper? As for the AR-10 lower - I will be waiting! Hello Alex, We are going to have that index pin hole to accommodate folks who want to use a SWS or Noveske rail! As far as timeline goes I am ready to go as soon as we get the final tooling in from our tool suppliers. I cant commit to a time because it isn't in my control how fast they finish making our custom carbide tools. But I can tell you I bug them almost every day |
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Actually LMTRocks that's not photoshoped. After our initial product launch of the lowers we received several calls and e-mails from service men and women letting us know that they felt the flag was backwards. When we originally chose the direction of the flag we put it so the union of stars was in the upper left hand corner so it would be correct if you were looking at the lower from the side. We researched and researched flag etiquette and did not find a definitive answer. The U.S. Code Title 4 Chapter 1 isn't clear on firearms. It calls out modes of transportation, military uniforms, packaging, retail consumer products, etc. We meant no disrespect once so ever. So to honor our service men and women we immediately changed the direction. We are almost finished with the new run and will be going out to our dealers soon. If you would like a STT-15 with the union leading just let us know and we can make that happen for you! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm a fan of the forward moving flag. STT---any option for a forward flag down the road? Like this obviously photochopped rendering. http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3693/12138118605_60ba8ea400_o.jpg Actually LMTRocks that's not photoshoped. After our initial product launch of the lowers we received several calls and e-mails from service men and women letting us know that they felt the flag was backwards. When we originally chose the direction of the flag we put it so the union of stars was in the upper left hand corner so it would be correct if you were looking at the lower from the side. We researched and researched flag etiquette and did not find a definitive answer. The U.S. Code Title 4 Chapter 1 isn't clear on firearms. It calls out modes of transportation, military uniforms, packaging, retail consumer products, etc. We meant no disrespect once so ever. So to honor our service men and women we immediately changed the direction. We are almost finished with the new run and will be going out to our dealers soon. If you would like a STT-15 with the union leading just let us know and we can make that happen for you! He is saying its Shopped because it says SANTA on the roll mark |
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Quoted: He is saying its Shopped because it says SANTA on the roll mark View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm a fan of the forward moving flag. STT---any option for a forward flag down the road? Like this obviously photochopped rendering. http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3693/12138118605_60ba8ea400_o.jpg Actually LMTRocks that's not photoshoped. After our initial product launch of the lowers we received several calls and e-mails from service men and women letting us know that they felt the flag was backwards. When we originally chose the direction of the flag we put it so the union of stars was in the upper left hand corner so it would be correct if you were looking at the lower from the side. We researched and researched flag etiquette and did not find a definitive answer. The U.S. Code Title 4 Chapter 1 isn't clear on firearms. It calls out modes of transportation, military uniforms, packaging, retail consumer products, etc. We meant no disrespect once so ever. So to honor our service men and women we immediately changed the direction. We are almost finished with the new run and will be going out to our dealers soon. If you would like a STT-15 with the union leading just let us know and we can make that happen for you! He is saying its Shopped because it says SANTA on the roll mark |
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Pretty sure thats a Bolt Hold Open lever right above the mag release View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No ambi bho and you are calling this a true ambi lower? I hate companies that do that. Pretty sure thats a Bolt Hold Open lever right above the mag release If you are talking about the right side, that's a bolt release. |
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Okay, so Santa and stars aside, does this use a standard lower parts kit, or does it require special parts.
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uses the same parts kit as any lower, you just dont use some of the parts.
trigger/hammer/fcg pins/take down pin w/spring and detent (may have to trim the spring a little/pivot pin w/spring and detent/selector/grip/grip spring and detent/buffer retention pin and spring |
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Nice looking lower with some really kick ass specs. I need another premium billet lower like I need a hole in the head.
ETA def in the Stars forward camp. |
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Very nice, and as a lefty i always appreciate anything that makes my life easier. When i get around to putting an AR together i'll definitely be looking into one of these.
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So I haven't seen a definitive answer one way or the other, can you lock the bolt to the rear from the right side of the lower? The video doesn't show it, but they are saying it's a truly, completely ambi lower.
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So I haven't seen a definitive answer one way or the other, can you lock the bolt to the rear from the right side of the lower? The video doesn't show it, but they are saying it's a truly, completely ambi lower. View Quote |
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Constructive criticism here.....
Has any left handed shooter, who's put this lower through it's paces, accidentally drop a mag while indexing the finger outside of the trigger guard (As in keeping the finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot). The location of the left mag release looks like it's just asking to accidentally eject a mag. Also, I'm with stars forward group; the flag would be charging towards the threat instead of retreating from it. |
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Quoted: So I haven't seen a definitive answer one way or the other, can you lock the bolt to the rear from the right side of the lower? The video doesn't show it, but they are saying it's a truly, completely ambi lower. View Quote Currently the right side bolt control on the STT-15 is a release only.
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Quoted: Constructive criticism here..... Has any left handed shooter, who's put this lower through it's paces, accidentally drop a mag while indexing the finger outside of the trigger guard (As in keeping the finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot). The location of the left mag release looks like it's just asking to accidentally eject a mag. Also, I'm with stars forward group; the flag would be charging towards the threat instead of retreating from it. View Quote It would be pretty tough to accidentally release the bolt. Where we put the fulcrum point for the ambi mag release paddle is about where you would rest your trigger finger. This does two things for the STT-15, first it increases the force to release the mag, second by requiring more force to dump the mag it stops or limits any accidental mag releases. |
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Quoted:Hello Halfbreed_83 thank you for your question as well.
It would be pretty tough to accidentally release the bolt. Where we put the fulcrum point for the ambi mag release paddle is about where you would rest your trigger finger. This does two things for the STT-15, first it increases the force to release the mag, second by requiring more force to dump the mag it stops or limits any accidental mag releases. View Quote Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for explanation. |
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People dig the backwards flag, because that is how it would look if you were moving forward on the battle field.
It is also why the flag is backwards on mil uniforms. |
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Constructive criticism here..... Has any left handed shooter, who's put this lower through it's paces, accidentally drop a mag while indexing the finger outside of the trigger guard (As in keeping the finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot). The location of the left mag release looks like it's just asking to accidentally eject a mag. Also, I'm with stars forward group; the flag would be charging towards the threat instead of retreating from it. View Quote I shoot this lower lefty and have no problems with dropping mags accidentally. Mike |
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