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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:41:52 PM EDT
Just like you guys asked! We put the first rifle together this afternoon. As soon as we get them online for purchase I will make sure and let people know! Contact us directly: 281-208-GUNS(4867) or Email [email protected] for inquiries or more information or you can order off of our products page at www.HoustonArmory.com |
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Posted: 11/9/2012 8:21:12 AM EDT
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Look good.
What are the specs Thanks |
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Posted: 11/12/2012 4:07:34 PM EDT
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Look good. What are the specs Thanks we are finalizing the specs but for the most part they are going to be just like the SBRs we are selling. Same 8" barrels just a longer baffle stack so its much more quiet. These uppers can be slapped on an existing gun for a 1 tax stamp suppressed 300 blackout rifle. |
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Posted: 11/12/2012 6:04:06 PM EDT
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Back that up - Longer stack = how much quieter (sub and supersonic)? What about the weight for the complete rifle as you show it? thanks |
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Posted: 11/12/2012 8:29:36 PM EDT
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Woah - Back that up - Longer stack = how much quieter (sub and supersonic)? What about the weight for the complete rifle as you show it? thanks ill get the weight for you when I get in the shop tomorrow, as requested here are the numbers from my SBR We have had 2 different rounds independently tested, with each shot recorded and then averaged. Each group includes the 1st round pop. 300 Remington 220gr 139.99 dB - 136.87 dB - 135.86 dB - 133.73 dB - 129.04 dB - 133.02 dB - 131.24 dB - 133.57 dB - 131.57 dB - 131.34 dB ––- (avg.) 133.622134 dB 300 Remington 125gr Match 134.44 dB - 132.63 dB - 132.17 dB - 133.99 dB - 134.95 dB - 134.98 dB - 133.79 dB - 135.61dB - 132.87 dB - 136.09 dB ––- (avg.) 134.151678 dB and here are the numbers for my 16" uppers 16" 300 Remington 220gr - 134.72 - 126.31 - 123.99 - 127.34 - 126.44 - 123.47 - 125.84 - 123.71 - 126.62 - 124.61..... (avg.) 126.305 16" 300 Remington 125gr - 130.28 - 129.62 - 130.44 - 128.10 - 128.01 - 128.55 - 128.48 - 129.36 - 129.58 - 132.12..... (avg.) 129.454283 why.......you likey? 
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Posted: 11/13/2012 5:17:55 AM EDT
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Like it - Of coarse I like it
I hate having 8-10" extra on the end of a 16" barrel just because I want to take my suppressed rifle to states that are suppressor friendly but not SBR friendly 
Those are some good numbers. although a difference of ~ 5 decibels doesn't sound like a lot I believe that are on the Log scale (or something like that) so it's kind of like understanding the difference in the magnitude of earth quakes  
BTW in your other thread did it list you MV for the 8" barrel? also how hot does this thing get while shooting it? Would I need rail covers or a VPG to keep it under control? Thanks again |
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Posted: 11/13/2012 7:47:33 AM EDT
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Those are some good numbers. although a difference of ~ 5 decibels doesn't sound like a lot I believe that are on the Log scale (or something like that) so it's kind of like understanding the difference in the magnitude of earth quakes This is roughly correct. 5 dB will take something from painfully loud and damaging to merely loud. |
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Posted: 11/13/2012 9:42:27 AM EDT
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Like it - Of coarse I like it
I hate having 8-10" extra on the end of a 16" barrel just because I want to take my suppressed rifle to states that are suppressor friendly but not SBR friendly
Those are some good numbers. although a difference of ~ 5 decibels doesn't sound like a lot I believe that are on the Log scale (or something like that) so it's kind of like understanding the difference in the magnitude of earth quakes
BTW in your other thread did it list you MV for the 8" barrel? also how hot does this thing get while shooting it? Would I need rail covers or a VPG to keep it under control? Thanks again what do you mean MV? Here is the link to the other page in case people did not see it. Here Spikes tactical asked us the same question Quoted:
Looks nice. :-) How hot does the hand guard get? Will it handle full auto fire? full auto? why yes of course we run beta mags in full auto to test our guns. This gun will handle it.
We have plenty of these guns that have been through multiple courses and are operating just fine with the high round count courses. The hand guard gets hot enough that we advise you either run scar panels or wear gloves. But aside from dropping 2 beta mags through our gun in less than 2 mins we really dont see any overheating issues 
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Posted: 11/27/2012 7:16:52 PM EDT
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This is definitely a tag!
Pretty slick setup you have there.... |
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Posted: 11/28/2012 10:00:20 AM EDT
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Looks nice. Does it still break down just like the 12" model?
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Posted: 11/29/2012 4:44:27 AM EDT
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Looks nice. Does it still break down just like the 12" model? It sure does. Im looking at boxes of parts on the floor right now just waiting to be these guns
its almost time
ETA: ill get the stats for the two builds up later this afternoon. |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 5:19:31 AM EDT
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Did I miss the specs on rifle?
How much does it weigh as configured? Price point? Caliber options thanks
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Posted: 11/29/2012 7:37:31 AM EDT
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Looks nice. Does it still break down just like the 12" model? It sure does. Im looking at boxes of parts on the floor right now just waiting to be these guns
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ETA: ill get the stats for the two builds up later this afternoon. Does the ATF consider that a permanent 16" OAL? |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 9:28:52 AM EDT
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Looks nice. Does it still break down just like the 12" model? It sure does. Im looking at boxes of parts on the floor right now just waiting to be these guns
its almost time
ETA: ill get the stats for the two builds up later this afternoon. Does the ATF consider that a permanent 16" OAL? they do, we fix the baffle stack to the end of the barrel so yep, its a 16" upper with a suppressor built in
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Did I miss the specs on rifle? How much does it weigh as configured? Price point? Caliber options thanks you didn't miss the specs, ill post them up later this afternoon or tonight when I get a chance. (busy day) right now we are only offering these in 300 blackout to start. We will come out with the 5.56 version in a couple of months. |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 9:57:23 AM EDT
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Looks nice. Does it still break down just like the 12" model? It sure does. Im looking at boxes of parts on the floor right now just waiting to be these guns
its almost time
ETA: ill get the stats for the two builds up later this afternoon. Does the ATF consider that a permanent 16" OAL? they do, we fix the baffle stack to the end of the barrel so yep, its a 16" upper with a suppressor built in
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Did I miss the specs on rifle? How much does it weigh as configured? Price point? Caliber options thanks you didn't miss the specs, ill post them up later this afternoon or tonight when I get a chance. (busy day) right now we are only offering these in 300 blackout to start. We will come out with the 5.56 version in a couple of months. Thanks for the info. So if I am understanding this correctly - the baffle stack does NOT come out for serviceability? If it does this is one of the best set ups I have seen and need to save some serious coin for it |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 7:33:07 PM EDT
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Looks nice. Does it still break down just like the 12" model? It sure does. Im looking at boxes of parts on the floor right now just waiting to be these guns
its almost time
ETA: ill get the stats for the two builds up later this afternoon. Does the ATF consider that a permanent 16" OAL? they do, we fix the baffle stack to the end of the barrel so yep, its a 16" upper with a suppressor built in
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Did I miss the specs on rifle? How much does it weigh as configured? Price point? Caliber options thanks you didn't miss the specs, ill post them up later this afternoon or tonight when I get a chance. (busy day) right now we are only offering these in 300 blackout to start. We will come out with the 5.56 version in a couple of months. Thanks for the info. So if I am understanding this correctly - the baffle stack does NOT come out for serviceability? If it does this is one of the best set ups I have seen and need to save some serious coin for it only on the 16" because we have to fix it to the barrel to make it a 16" upper. But the way we build our 16 in guns is slightly different. If you watch the video of our 12" gun (im sorry my boys in the shop haven't made a 16" video yet). Our 16 upper works the same way as the 12" except of course the 16" is a fixed baffle stack on the end of the barrel in order to make it a legal 16" gun. However the end of the baffle stack does screw off so you can take it apart and clean it
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Posted: 11/30/2012 5:16:28 AM EDT
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Looks nice. Does it still break down just like the 12" model? It sure does. Im looking at boxes of parts on the floor right now just waiting to be these guns
its almost time
ETA: ill get the stats for the two builds up later this afternoon. Does the ATF consider that a permanent 16" OAL? they do, we fix the baffle stack to the end of the barrel so yep, its a 16" upper with a suppressor built in
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Did I miss the specs on rifle? How much does it weigh as configured? Price point? Caliber options thanks you didn't miss the specs, ill post them up later this afternoon or tonight when I get a chance. (busy day) right now we are only offering these in 300 blackout to start. We will come out with the 5.56 version in a couple of months. Thanks for the info. So if I am understanding this correctly - the baffle stack does NOT come out for serviceability? If it does this is one of the best set ups I have seen and need to save some serious coin for it only on the 16" because we have to fix it to the barrel to make it a 16" upper. But the way we build our 16 in guns is slightly different. If you watch the video of our 12" gun (im sorry my boys in the shop haven't made a 16" video yet). Our 16 upper works the same way as the 12" except of course the 16" is a fixed baffle stack on the end of the barrel in order to make it a legal 16" gun. However the end of the baffle stack does screw off so you can take it apart and clean it Ahh I see. So the outer tube is removable for serviceability but the baffle stack is affixed. How is the baffle stack attached (TIG?) do you see any difference in accuracy between these uppers and your SBR uppers?. If one ever shot out the barrel could/would you guys be able to replace the barrel? Thanks! |
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Posted: 11/30/2012 7:44:55 PM EDT
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Ahh I see. So the outer tube is removable for serviceability but the baffle stack is affixed. How is the baffle stack attached (TIG?) do you see any difference in accuracy between these uppers and your SBR uppers?. If one ever shot out the barrel could/would you guys be able to replace the barrel? Thanks! The baffle stack is blind pinned. No accuracy difference at all because they both use the same 8" Houston Armory 5R match grade 300 blackout barrel. Yes, we can replace the barrels in them if you ever shoot them out. However, let me just say, our original prototype gun now has over 13,000 rounds through the same barrel and we use it to kill pigs multiple times a week
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Posted: 12/10/2012 5:22:31 AM EDT
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Its now 12/10 how about some more info on the 16" upper? Specs,price and availability. I need to have this.
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Posted: 12/11/2012 2:58:32 PM EDT
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we need a video on this one
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Posted: 12/27/2012 11:51:06 AM EDT
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MUST HAVE!
Stupid question: Can it be fired wet? |
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Posted: 12/27/2012 7:13:13 PM EDT
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MUST HAVE! Stupid question: Can it be fired wet? haha, of course! as a matter of fact, i'll get in contact with my course instructor and get him to send me the video of his gun working like a fine oiled sewing machine after he let it bathe in a ditch for a few minutes.
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Posted: 12/28/2012 6:58:45 AM EDT
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Awesome!
Given your numbers, the reciprocating bolt is probably louder than the report of the round from a wet suppressor. Impressive. |
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Posted: 12/28/2012 7:42:55 PM EDT
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Have these been weighed yet?
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Posted: 12/30/2012 2:47:33 PM EDT
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Looks great, but how is the an industry first? I have a Liberty Suppressors Leonidas, same thing only really first 300 BLK integral upper?
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Posted: 12/30/2012 5:33:25 PM EDT
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Neither are what I think of when I hear the word integral, but with that said, the Houston Armory is by far more of what I would consider integrally suppressed. When I hear integrally, I think something like the barrels I see being made for a Ruger MKIII's, all self contained within the one piece barrel, so to speak. The HA is more of a Integral design to me, it's all self contained within the suppressor tube. It doesn't get much more integral than that. The Leonidas obviously has 3 separate components that I can see. The FF tube, the barrel, and what appears to be a separate suppressor. Then again, I haven't heard a word from their company, so I couldn't tell for sure. I didn't even know they existed until I read the post.
DBAR |
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Posted: 1/2/2013 9:09:56 AM EDT
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Hey, I've emailed you guys a couple times about making a purchase and haven't heard back. I was wondering what the turnaround time was on shipping the 16" and 12" models after payment is made.
Also, do you guys plan on making any 308 models? Thanks. |
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Posted: 1/2/2013 3:04:51 PM EDT
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You won't be disappointed by the leonidas. It cost less and it's quiter
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Posted: 1/3/2013 4:33:07 PM EDT
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You won't be disappointed by the leonidas. It cost less and it's quiter quieter? i beg to differ.......until you own one of my rifles and the other and can put them through a test in a controlled facility I don't think anyone has the ability to make that claim. Please don't. |
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Posted: 1/3/2013 5:37:37 PM EDT
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Looks sick!
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Posted: 1/3/2013 6:27:04 PM EDT
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Like I said, great looking rifles, I'm sure they are quality, but your customer service f'ing SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!
I've emailed you guys 4 times, filled out the contact-us form on your webpage, and even registered an account here in hopes getting an answer. You looked right past my question and engaged someone else. Business must be good. I just went ahead and ordered an SA58 OSW from DSArms. Thanks anyway. |
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Posted: 1/5/2013 2:52:03 PM EDT
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Like I said, great looking rifles, I'm sure they are quality, but your customer service f'ing SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS! I've emailed you guys 4 times, filled out the contact-us form on your webpage, and even registered an account here in hopes getting an answer. You looked right past my question and engaged someone else. Business must be good. I just went ahead and ordered an SA58 OSW from DSArms. Thanks anyway. There are different people that have access to this account besides me the primary webmaster. I apologize for their shitty service and will give you my personal attention. We have been under an ATF audit as of lately and it just so happened to occur right during the middle of the holidays/school shootings rush and well that's still no excuse for not getting a reply out to you. If you are still interested in our guns or a suppressor I will IM you my personal email address. |
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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:41:26 PM EDT
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Please, heard both up at Ben Avery here in Phoenix. Leonidas was quieter.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 5:05:41 PM EDT
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Please, heard both up at Ben Avery here in Phoenix. Leonidas was quieter. is it also longer too?
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Posted: 1/26/2013 8:20:38 PM EDT
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So your agreeing that the leonidas is quiter because it 1.4" longer. They use a 9" barrel instead of 8" and their tube leaves aprox 2" of barrel uncovered, rather than in capsulating the entire barrel. Being that you expansion chamber is bigger, shouldn't yours be quiter? I give you props on your tube covering up the entire barrel.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 8:25:13 PM EDT
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Double post
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Posted: 1/27/2013 7:09:44 AM EDT
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So your agreeing that the leonidas is quiter because it 1.4" longer. They use a 9" barrel instead of 8" and their tube leaves aprox 2" of barrel uncovered, rather than in capsulating the entire barrel. Being that you expansion chamber is bigger, shouldn't yours be quiter? I give you props on your tube covering up the entire barrel. Ive never even heard a Leonidas in person so I would never make a statement like that unless I knew for sure, and too be quite honest with you. I would not be the one nor Houston Armory would make that decision. If we wanted to compare our products to another companies in the industry then we would do much like we did or original testing and evaluation, we would send both products to be compared off to an independent testing facility to compare for us and stay out of it until we're given the results. you hit the nail on the head right there. this is the key to our whole design, because even though (in our 12" uppers for instance) you have a 4" baffle stack on a 8" barrel, it does not mean its just a 4 inch suppressor. The amount of volume inside the handguard is paramount of the function and efficiency of our design. This is what allows us to make the guns so much shorter. |
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Posted: 2/2/2013 3:37:35 PM EDT
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Notice that both people knocking your rifle only have 2 posts. Your getting trolled. Rifle looks great guys, keep up the good work.
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Posted: 2/3/2013 6:37:26 AM EDT
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So your agreeing that the leonidas is quiter because it 1.4" longer. They use a 9" barrel instead of 8" and their tube leaves aprox 2" of barrel uncovered, rather than in capsulating the entire barrel. Being that you expansion chamber is bigger, shouldn't yours be quiter? I give you props on your tube covering up the entire barrel. Is ignorance a plausible excuse for stupidity? I would REALLY like to see some comparative video between your 12" and 16" uppers. After doing the math and being realistic an integrally suppressed upper that is serviceable is everything I need. I am inclined to do the 16" just to get max performance out of the package and be able to take it to non sbr friendly states. |
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Posted: 2/5/2013 5:42:58 PM EDT
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Notice that both people knocking your rifle only have 2 posts. Your getting trolled. Rifle looks great guys, keep up the good work. Thanks Quoted:
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So your agreeing that the leonidas is quiter because it 1.4" longer. They use a 9" barrel instead of 8" and their tube leaves aprox 2" of barrel uncovered, rather than in capsulating the entire barrel. Being that you expansion chamber is bigger, shouldn't yours be quiter? I give you props on your tube covering up the entire barrel. Is ignorance a plausible excuse for stupidity? I would REALLY like to see some comparative video between your 12" and 16" uppers. After doing the math and being realistic an integrally suppressed upper that is serviceable is everything I need. I am inclined to do the 16" just to get max performance out of the package and be able to take it to non sbr friendly states. Its everything everybody needs
Ill have to bring this up with my asian who's got all of our media equipment, but yes, you are correct, especially when you take in to considerations today's prices and what you are getting. Shoot us an email when your ready
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Posted: 2/8/2013 11:01:56 PM EDT
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Sweet
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Posted: 2/16/2013 5:52:54 AM EDT
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Any chance you guys would make it in 5.56...just in the position to add another caliber to ammo fort yet
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Posted: 2/16/2013 5:37:16 PM EDT
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Any chance you guys would make it in 5.56...just in the position to add another caliber to ammo fort yet we're working on it. Hopefully by this time next year
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Posted: 2/23/2013 11:23:49 AM EDT
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Read through this thread along with checking your site...didn't see the 16 inch for sale. Did I miss somewhere? Great product by the way!
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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:24:52 PM EDT
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Read through this thread along with checking your site...didn't see the 16 inch for sale. Did I miss somewhere? Great product by the way! yeah, we had a huge problem with our website and the way it was constructed so it has all been in working progress to get rebuilt and in working order. Our products are being updated and we still are trying to iron out some potential issues with the site so its not fully complete yet. If you are interested in one of our 16" H300IC uppers please email us at [email protected] |
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Posted: 2/26/2013 6:42:14 AM EDT
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I like... Ill own one one day, some day, hopefully.
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Posted: 3/7/2013 6:38:37 AM EDT
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over 60 days
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