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Posted: 11/9/2011 11:29:30 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/9/2011 2:54:22 PM EST
What is the contour under the hand guard? Is it fluted under there as well?

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Link Posted: 11/9/2011 3:19:33 PM EST
That is some of the best fluting I've seen.

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Link Posted: 11/9/2011 4:06:21 PM EST


That would look real good if the handguard had horizontal ribbing/venting. The classic M4 handguard with it's vertical lines seems to clash a bit.
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Link Posted: 11/9/2011 8:20:43 PM EST
Fluting looks good, but it's begging for a smooth forearm. VTAC, mabye Daniel Defense MFR....
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Link Posted: 11/11/2011 4:34:50 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/11/2011 7:32:46 PM EST
Looks way better than dimples. I like the way yall think. Very clean looking and symmetrical.
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Link Posted: 11/12/2011 11:32:56 AM EST
That looks great! Will a 14,5 1/7 or 1/9 twist ever be considered? even if not it still is an awesome barrel.

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Link Posted: 11/12/2011 2:28:18 PM EST
No offense intended....but....I really don't appreciate barrels with the step down for an M-203...however that is one of the nicest fluting jobs I have ever seen....

If it shoots as good as it looks you have a real winner on your hands......

Personally I'd like to see the whole gambit of barrel lengths ....with the same diameter and fluting under the hand guards....

I don't know if it functions better than dimples or simply milling the barrel diameter down but if looks could kill......this would be deadly...

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Link Posted: 11/12/2011 2:54:23 PM EST
Is it midlength system?

Can you order with Magpul handguard attached?

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Sent you guys a PM.......anybody home??? You also have other guys on here asking about the post you put up. You might want to answer interested customers. Thanks, 9080

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Link Posted: 11/14/2011 5:21:37 AM EST
Please, please, please offer a 14.5" un pinned that i would buy

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Link Posted: 11/14/2011 5:39:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2011 5:40:55 AM EST by DSArms_FAL]
We will be offering many uppers with this fluting soon. This fluting has been done before on the MK46 and our RPD carbines. This "machine gun" fluting works very well and acts in the same way fins on a car radiator react to heat.

Another interesting note is that our new fluted M4 barrel weighs LESS than a STD lite weight 6520 type barrel.

We first started this fluting in house with our RPD carbine and while it works great for weight and cooling; the RPD barrel is pretty heavy and that does not really show how well this fluting design works. In the lighter contour STD HBAR barrels is where you will find the best results.


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Link Posted: 11/14/2011 6:04:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL:
We will be offering many uppers with this fluting soon. This fluting has been done before on the MK46 and our RPD carbines. This "machine gun" fluting works very well and acts in the same way fins on a car radiator react to heat.

Another interesting note is that our new fluted M4 barrel weighs LESS than a STD lite weight 6520 type barrel.

We first started this fluting in house with our RPD carbine and while it works great for weight and cooling; the RPD barrel is pretty heavy and that does not really show how well this fluting design works. In the lighter contour STD HBAR barrels is where you will find the best results.



Woooo

Cant wait to see some of your offerings i have my SBR lower that one of these would be perfect for, maybe a 11.5"

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Link Posted: 11/14/2011 6:20:04 AM EST
We have bolt a IAR 16" HBAR fluted and a 11" HBAR fluted. Pics will be up today on. IT'S SEXY!!!

I've never seen a AR barrel run this cool after 300 round non stop, you can touch the handguard at the chamber end or throughout on our IAR, and can "fast tap" the barrel at the front without leaving melted skin. Also we have not had a single cook off yet in testing. Of course a 1000 round dump with Armatec drums could increase the chances but IDK it works pretty good.

ALL at a retail of less than $1500 for the complete rifle. The upper should be around $1100 retail.

16" 4150 chromlined 1:7 "machine gun fluted"
lo profile 4140 nitride gas block
Vltor CASV handguard
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DSArms folding A2 rear sight

There are also internal upgrades to the IAR as well that fix issues with all M4s, we have a provisional patent filed on one and the other is undergoing the provisional patent process right now. More detail to follow on these.

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Link Posted: 11/14/2011 6:46:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By mbf11:
Here are a few pics of the fluting on a different contour barrel. This is our IAR prototype rifle.

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For the enhanced upper we removed most of the pic rail to strengthen the upper receiver. We left enough slots to attach the Vltor rail and since the rail has a full pic rail you can still mount your accessories.

Some of the features that will come on this rifle are; our steel charging handle, our Ambi selector, Vltor Casv rail system, Vltor IMOD butt stock, enhanced upper receiver, our special fluting, our Lo-Pro gas block and a few internal enhancements I can not yet go into. The complete rifle with out mag and grip pod only weighs in at 7.8 pounds.


And did inread the 11" correctly?

If so i gotta start saving up my money

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Link Posted: 11/14/2011 8:14:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2011 8:24:47 AM EST by DSArms_FAL]
Yes, a 11" CQB IAR same design, fulting, delta ring and upper.

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Link Posted: 11/14/2011 9:09:20 AM EST
Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL:
Yes, a 11" CQB IAR same design, fulting, delta ring and upper.


Time to start savig some money

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Link Posted: 11/14/2011 7:24:13 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/15/2011 5:57:24 AM EST
DAMN YOU SIR!!!! No but seriosly, you just built my rifle for me. I have everything except that barrel, and that will be mine as soon as its available. I've been using your products for years and will continue to do so. Great job.

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Link Posted: 11/21/2011 7:31:08 AM EST
man, that is a really really nice looking weapon. Good job all around, look forward to following the progress.

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Link Posted: 11/21/2011 7:50:06 AM EST
So is it extra for me to order both the MOE handguards and your three prong flash hider with this and have you guys throw em on before it ships?

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Link Posted: 12/6/2011 5:39:53 AM EST
Here is a video during some of our testing stages for heat dissipation.

DSArms fluted barrel heat testing

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Link Posted: 12/6/2011 7:41:56 PM EST
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Here is a video during some of our testing stages for heat dissipation.

DSArms fluted barrel heat testing


Nice video. The gas tube was glowing! Im holding out for a mid-length, but I may get impatient and buy a the carbine any way.

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Link Posted: 12/7/2011 4:32:02 PM EST
Can this be ordered with a muzzle brake instead of a flash hider for the people is Nazi York?

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Link Posted: 12/8/2011 3:33:13 AM EST
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Can this be ordered with a muzzle brake instead of a flash hider for the people is Nazi York?


Yes it can its a $20 price increase but its a Wilson Combat Upgrade.

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Link Posted: 12/8/2011 1:37:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL:
Originally Posted By yankeesfan81:
Can this be ordered with a muzzle brake instead of a flash hider for the people is Nazi York?


Yes it can its a $20 price increase but its a Wilson Combat Upgrade.

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Awesome news and how would the muzzle brakes be permanently attached?
Also can the Bayonet lug be removed or a front site without bayonet lug be installed prior to shipment also?

You definitely will have a customer in the near future.

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Link Posted: 12/13/2011 3:12:26 PM EST
Do you offer this is 6.8?

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I have a DSA mid-length fluted upper and have been very happy with it.

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Originally Posted By mbf11:
At this time we do not have plans for a 6.8, but we MAY do it for our 300AAC barrels.

Thanks!


Well then, that sounds like a winner

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What about this barrel
Item Number: DSZM400120FLUTE

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What is the weight savings on the fluted barrel over the non fluted version?

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Link Posted: 12/18/2011 9:26:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By yankeesfan81:
Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL:
Originally Posted By yankeesfan81:
Can this be ordered with a muzzle brake instead of a flash hider for the people is Nazi York?


Yes it can its a $20 price increase but its a Wilson Combat Upgrade.

Thank you

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Awesome news and how would the muzzle brakes be permanently attached?
Also can the Bayonet lug be removed or a front site without bayonet lug be installed prior to shipment also?

You definitely will have a customer in the near future.




Same question on the deadly lug...

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Link Posted: 1/2/2012 5:25:18 PM EST
Originally Posted By FiveNine:
Originally Posted By yankeesfan81:
Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL:
Originally Posted By yankeesfan81:
Can this be ordered with a muzzle brake instead of a flash hider for the people is Nazi York?


Yes it can its a $20 price increase but its a Wilson Combat Upgrade.

Thank you

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Awesome news and how would the muzzle brakes be permanently attached?
Also can the Bayonet lug be removed or a front site without bayonet lug be installed prior to shipment also?

You definitely will have a customer in the near future.




Same question on the deadly lug...



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Originally Posted By mbf11:
We do remove the deadly lug!!!

$60.00 gets a soldered on Wilson Combat muzzle break, the bayonet lug removed and barrel re-finished.

Because this is "special" configuration you will need to call to order the upper like this.

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That is fantastic. You will definitely have a customer once I get my taxes back. Thanks for the info.

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A 20" gov't profile barrel with the same fluting style would be sweet.

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Does the FSB have tapered pins?

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Link Posted: 1/11/2012 4:31:58 PM EST
sounds like a plan !


Originally Posted By mbf11:
At this time we do not have plans for a 6.8, but we MAY do it for our 300AAC barrels.

Thanks!



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