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Posted: 2/14/2011 4:03:24 PM
Originally Posted By tommee-boy-72:
Ok, I have an UPDATE. I have been talking and dealing with Jon at Samson. He sent me a new rail. I recieved the rail this AM an went and put it right on. After getting it on I noticed that this rail was doing the same thing, tilted up. I am thinking to myself WTF! There is no way my luck could be this bad as to get two rails messed up. So I start looking this whole thing over. Then I notice that every time I put this rail an the other rail on, I had to leave a gap between the upper and the rail just to get the front pin in the upper to mount it to the lower. Well I took out the files and filed a dish in the rail to let the rail slide back to seat against the upper. This did 2 things. 1, it let the rail slide back where it is supposed to be. 2, now the rail is level. The whole problem was my lower, NOT the RAIL. I filed on the rail as it seemed the better part to hide this. Thanks Samson Manufacturing. Here is a pic of the problem and fix I did. You can see how thick the front buss is on the lower. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/IMG_09862.jpg Here is the finished gun. 16" Sabre fluted SS Mid-length with a McK comp 9" Samson EVO rail http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/IMG_09902.jpg Glad to see that they got you taken care of AND that it wasn't the rail that was the problem. Great looking stick btw  |
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locknloadNM
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Posted: 2/14/2011 9:02:37 PM
Thanks for the update! What brand lower is that?
Originally Posted By tommee-boy-72:
Ok, I have an UPDATE. I have been talking and dealing with Jon at Samson. He sent me a new rail. I recieved the rail this AM an went and put it right on. After getting it on I noticed that this rail was doing the same thing, tilted up. I am thinking to myself WTF! There is no way my luck could be this bad as to get two rails messed up. So I start looking this whole thing over. Then I notice that every time I put this rail an the other rail on, I had to leave a gap between the upper and the rail just to get the front pin in the upper to mount it to the lower. Well I took out the files and filed a dish in the rail to let the rail slide back to seat against the upper. This did 2 things. 1, it let the rail slide back where it is supposed to be. 2, now the rail is level. The whole problem was my lower, NOT the RAIL. I filed on the rail as it seemed the better part to hide this. Thanks Samson Manufacturing. Here is a pic of the problem and fix I did. You can see how thick the front buss is on the lower. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/IMG_09862.jpg Here is the finished gun. 16" Sabre fluted SS Mid-length with a McK comp 9" Samson EVO rail http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/IMG_09902.jpg |
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Posted: 2/15/2011 2:41:05 PM
RRA
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Posted: 2/16/2011 12:24:08 AM
I see cat feet in the first pic. haha
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Posted: 2/16/2011 4:13:11 PM
any update on if we will have an FDE option? I'm dying for a few in FDE!
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locknloadNM
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Posted: 2/16/2011 4:22:43 PM
Scott-
Any chance you could post a pic of either of these? You mentioned earlier on this thread that you would after shot show...thanks. Originally Posted By locknloadNM:
Scott- Can you please post a pic of either your 7 EX or 9 EX rail with an A2 fsp? I ran a DD 12" FSPM on my last build but would like to use the evolution on my next build. Thanks!! |
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Posted: 2/16/2011 8:46:33 PM
[Last Edit: 2/16/2011 8:47:29 PM by jdub1975]
So whats to say this wouldn't happen with most of the lowers out there? What made yours different? Thinking of ordering up this rail; just want to find more info on how your lower was the issue & not the design of this rail.
TIA. Originally Posted By tommee-boy-72:
Ok, I have an UPDATE. I have been talking and dealing with Jon at Samson. He sent me a new rail. I recieved the rail this AM an went and put it right on. After getting it on I noticed that this rail was doing the same thing, tilted up. I am thinking to myself WTF! There is no way my luck could be this bad as to get two rails messed up. So I start looking this whole thing over. Then I notice that every time I put this rail an the other rail on, I had to leave a gap between the upper and the rail just to get the front pin in the upper to mount it to the lower. Well I took out the files and filed a dish in the rail to let the rail slide back to seat against the upper. This did 2 things. 1, it let the rail slide back where it is supposed to be. 2, now the rail is level. The whole problem was my lower, NOT the RAIL. I filed on the rail as it seemed the better part to hide this. Thanks Samson Manufacturing. Here is a pic of the problem and fix I did. You can see how thick the front buss is on the lower. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/IMG_09862.jpg Here is the finished gun. 16" Sabre fluted SS Mid-length with a McK comp 9" Samson EVO rail http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/IMG_09902.jpg |
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knight_dive
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Posted: 2/17/2011 2:41:58 AM
Has anyone tried one of these rails with a Cav Arms MkII lower? I think the lugs for the front pin are a bit larger on the Cav than on a forged aluminum one, but I don't have mine in front of me to compare.
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Posted: 2/18/2011 9:53:06 AM
UPS just dropped off my 12 3/8"; I can't wait to get home and install it.
It looks great, and it's really lightweight. |
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Posted: 2/25/2011 7:00:26 PM
Might be a dumb question but I'm unsure. What model would be correct for a 16 inch carbine with an Adams's Arms? Not sure if it's 7 EX or 9 EX. Thanks
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Posted: 2/25/2011 8:40:50 PM
Originally Posted By tommee-boy-72:
Ok, I have an UPDATE. I have been talking and dealing with Jon at Samson. He sent me a new rail. I recieved the rail this AM an went and put it right on. After getting it on I noticed that this rail was doing the same thing, tilted up. I am thinking to myself WTF! There is no way my luck could be this bad as to get two rails messed up. So I start looking this whole thing over. Then I notice that every time I put this rail an the other rail on, I had to leave a gap between the upper and the rail just to get the front pin in the upper to mount it to the lower. Well I took out the files and filed a dish in the rail to let the rail slide back to seat against the upper. This did 2 things. 1, it let the rail slide back where it is supposed to be. 2, now the rail is level. The whole problem was my lower, NOT the RAIL. I filed on the rail as it seemed the better part to hide this. Thanks Samson Manufacturing. Here is a pic of the problem and fix I did. You can see how thick the front buss is on the lower. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/IMG_09862.jpg Here is the finished gun. 16" Sabre fluted SS Mid-length with a McK comp 9" Samson EVO rail http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/IMG_09902.jpg Dude .....! i CAN SEE YOUR PROBLEM.... your rail came with cat legs !? Sorry , I could not resist. |
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Posted: 2/25/2011 10:09:37 PM
I am waiting on my upper to be built with this rail. I am mate this hand guard to a Rainier Arms Ultramatch upper. I previously purchased a VTac but found that it hit the bottom of my low profile gasblock when the rail section was added under the gasblock. (inside backing plate). I am hoping since the Samson is a larger diameter that this will not be an issue. When I get it in, I will post pictures of my setup.
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Posted: 2/25/2011 11:39:46 PM
[Last Edit: 2/25/2011 11:40:36 PM by fatbarrel]
Originally Posted By mjheath:
Might be a dumb question but I'm unsure. What model would be correct for a 16 inch carbine with an Adams's Arms? Not sure if it's 7 EX or 9 EX. Thanks You'd want a 7 EX for carbine gas system, 9 EX for midlength gas system. |
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Posted: 2/25/2011 11:56:42 PM
[Last Edit: 2/28/2011 5:42:59 PM by William_lxix]
Would these rail systems work with the LWRC M6A2?
Series 9” 9.2 oz
Series 9”-EX 10.5 oz Series 11” 10.5 oz Series 12.37” 11.5 oz Series 15” 13.4 oz I am very curious to know if I can put a longer rail than the stock 7" or 9" rails CURRENTLY offered by LWRC. |
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Posted: 2/26/2011 12:12:13 AM
[Last Edit: 2/26/2011 12:12:59 AM by mjheath]
Originally Posted By fatbarrel:
Originally Posted By mjheath:
Might be a dumb question but I'm unsure. What model would be correct for a 16 inch carbine with an Adams's Arms? Not sure if it's 7 EX or 9 EX. Thanks You'd want a 7 EX for carbine gas system, 9 EX for midlength gas system. Thank you much |
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Posted: 3/2/2011 12:34:46 AM
A friend of mine told me he read/saw something that when this fore end is mounted you can't pivot the upper open for cleaning. Looking at the pictures in this thread it appears this isn't the case, but can those that have installed them confirm or deny this. It's not a deal breaker for me, I'm just curious because this friend isn't always the most reliable with tech info (he's the guy that thinks it true because it's on the internet).
Also, will these fit over any low pro gas block? Does it have to be pinned, set screwed, or will clamp style work. I've got the factory 16" M4 profile barrel that came on my LMT upper. |
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Posted: 3/2/2011 8:58:20 AM
hello,
in regard to the interference when shot gunning the upper open, there was minor interference. the clamp tabs would hit alowing you to only open the receiver by about 75%. this is still plenty of room to get in there and clean or clear a blown primer however we did address the issue and added clearance at the back of the clamp. as for the LP-GB, the inside diameter of the Evolution is 1.56". as long as the LP-GB does not exceed that you should be fine. thanks, Andrew Dreher |
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Posted: 3/2/2011 9:04:00 AM
hello,
the Evolution rail will fit the LWRC M6A2. you can float it right over the gas block. it does contact the knuckle on top of the gas block but when mounted with that contact it makes the rail flat and in line with the upper receiver. thanks, Andrew Dreher |
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Posted: 3/2/2011 9:18:44 AM
hello,
in regards to the FDE, we do not have any plans for it right now. thanks, Andrew Dreher |
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Posted: 3/2/2011 12:28:33 PM
Originally Posted By AndrewDreher:
hello, in regards to the FDE, we do not have any plans for it right now. thanks, Andrew Dreher Hey Andrew, Any updates on when the 11" rails are going to start shipping? Anxiously awaiting mine. Thanks! |
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Posted: 3/2/2011 4:55:48 PM
Any chance of getting a pic of this? I started asking over 6 weeks ago and was told, "after the Shot show". Just curious if this something you guys can do. I can always order a DD 9.5 FSP rail but I would prefer to go with a round one for this build (Troy doesn't make a TRX with a FSP cut out). Thanks.
Originally Posted By locknloadNM:
Scott- Any chance you could post a pic of either of these? You mentioned earlier on this thread that you would after shot show...thanks. Originally Posted By locknloadNM:
Scott- Can you please post a pic of either your 7 EX or 9 EX rail with an A2 fsp? I ran a DD 12" FSPM on my last build but would like to use the evolution on my next build. Thanks!! |
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Posted: 3/3/2011 1:43:42 PM
[Last Edit: 3/3/2011 2:15:10 PM by AndrewDreher]
Here is a photo of the 9" EX with an FSB. Sorry it took so long we've been busy...
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RainierArms
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Posted: 3/4/2011 3:36:32 PM
[Last Edit: 3/4/2011 3:37:49 PM by RainierArms]
THESE ARE SICK!!
TAKING PREORDERS NOW ON RAINIER VERSION of the EVOLUTION RAILS These are 5% lighter than the already Superlight EVO Rail. We only have the 12" on preorder status now but will be offering them in 7", 9", 11", 14"  |
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Posted: 3/4/2011 4:50:37 PM
Originally Posted By RainierArms:
THESE ARE SICK!! TAKING PREORDERS NOW ON RAINIER VERSION of the EVOLUTION RAILS These are 5% lighter than the already Superlight EVO Rail. We only have the 12" on preorder status now but will be offering them in 7", 9", 11", 14" <a href="http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2563" target="_blank">http://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/7b701d19d31d13535c1622c785537df1.jpg</a>  |
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Posted: 3/4/2011 5:43:29 PM
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By RainierArms:
THESE ARE SICK!! TAKING PREORDERS NOW ON RAINIER VERSION of the EVOLUTION RAILS These are 5% lighter than the already Superlight EVO Rail. We only have the 12" on preorder status now but will be offering them in 7", 9", 11", 14" <a href="http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2563" target="_blank">http://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/7b701d19d31d13535c1622c785537df1.jpg</a> Can the smaller rail sections be mounted at different angles on these like the regular evo's? More Pics? |
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