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Posted: 7/28/2017 4:41:10 PM EDT

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I think all of us wish the Hughes amendment never passed in the first place..... I think that was 68? Either way, still sucks that we can't purchase new full-auto or even burst lowers. I'd love to have an AR that went full auto. Even if no ranges around me allowed me to, the fact that (in a better world) I was legally able to purchase this rifle with the full auto capability without really thinking anything of it, in other words this ability being nothing special, that would still rock.

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To be honest, I'd likely never go full auto unless I had a friend or family member that wanted to try it out. I had my share of full auto while I was in the Army so it wouldn't be a novelty for me. I'd just see $15 or $20 flying down range in 10 seconds every time the trigger was pulled and a magazine was emptied lol.

Posted: 7/29/2017 8:04:22 AM EDT

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^damn!
I'm waiting on my colt m16a1 right now.....I won't ever shoot it in semi auto or any of my ars in semi auto again

Besides....6 bucks every 2-2.5 seconds is more accurate

Posted: 7/29/2017 2:57:38 PM EDT

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^damn!
I'm waiting on my colt m16a1 right now.....I won't ever shoot it in semi auto or any of my ars in semi auto again

Besides....6 bucks every 2-2.5 seconds is more accurate

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Like I said, I fired it on full auto enough while I was in the Army. When the Army was paying for the ammo, that was great. When I have to pay for it, not so much lol.

Having a true M16A1 would be awesome and I'd LOVE to have one... if it was about the same price as what a clone costs to put together. A re-weld magwell or an 80% with custom engraving is as close as I'll likely come to one though, unless I strike it rich and can put $25,000 to $30,000 into a single rifle and I'd likely only do that if I could get the last rifle that I was issued in the Army. That's be pretty cool.

Posted: 8/14/2017 3:35:13 PM EDT

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Occasionally I stalk their facebook page. Missed this from two weeks ago.

Testing new Brownells products on the range doesn't suck!

FYI...furniture color is for the prototype only and is not the final intended color.

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Posted: 8/14/2017 4:10:13 PM EDT

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Occasionally I stalk their facebook page. Missed this from two weeks ago.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20476464_10154928828307992_2683364393545734943_n.jpg?oh=2a03e30aab86ba5c1c8770f40ea725cc&oe=5A1CCED5

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They test on NoDak receivers

Or did they re-spray their own receivers grey?

Posted: 8/14/2017 4:15:57 PM EDT

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Glad that is a prototype color I was gonna say he'll no lol

Posted: 8/14/2017 6:09:52 PM EDT

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They test on NoDak receivers

Or did they re-spray their own receivers grey?

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They are Brownells receivers machined from Nodak spud forgings. The receivers do look gray in comparison to the black magazine, the black trigger guard, and the barrel. This could have been a special set Brownells did as they usually only have black receivers.

Posted: 8/15/2017 1:59:27 PM EDT

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They are Brownells receivers machined from Nodak spud forgings. The receivers do look gray in comparison to the black magazine, the black trigger guard, and the barrel. This could have been a special set Brownells did as they usually only have black receivers.

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Maybe they're going to start selling XM gray, to be more correct.

Posted: 8/15/2017 3:55:00 PM EDT

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I just wish that real A1 lower receivers were as easy to obtain and not $25,000.00 lol.

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Couple hundred bucks in Germany. Obviously highly illegal to bring one back to the US though.

As others have mentioned, I'm curious about the materials. Mostly the pistol grip. The originals were Bakelite or phenolic or something like that, super hard. The pic Brownell's posted looks like common plastic.

Posted: 8/15/2017 6:39:12 PM EDT

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They better not be making grey receivers for them selves and not us

Maybe the next batch will be grey?

Posted: 8/15/2017 6:57:54 PM EDT

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Couple hundred bucks in Germany. Obviously highly illegal to bring one back to the US though.

As others have mentioned, I'm curious about the materials. Mostly the pistol grip. The originals were Bakelite or phenolic or something like that, super hard. The pic Brownell's posted looks like common plastic.

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I would actually prefer more of a modern plastic (such as what is used in current Colt A2 furniture, or whatever Magpul uses) in the new Brownells A1 furniture.

Posted: 8/16/2017 10:15:37 AM EDT

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I really hope this comes out for a reasonable price, and quality is good. I'd buy at least a full set of each color.

Posted: 8/16/2017 1:23:42 PM EDT

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My guess is right at first it will be expensive to recoup the cost of tooling, but after some time it'll go down most likely.

Posted: 8/30/2017 10:00:43 PM EDT

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So, I got bored and creeped their facebook again. No new posts regarding furniture, and I also took a trip through the comments of relevant photos. Of course, nothing new there either, but I did find this little gem. For any of you wanting waffle mags, maybe keep an eye on this.....

Posted: 9/1/2017 1:15:06 PM EDT

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Originals are fiber reenforced melamine. Like your old school and army lunch trays. Production wise, cost the same as modern plastics. (Hint hint for brownells :) )

Posted: 9/1/2017 7:26:24 PM EDT

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Posted a couple pictures to show the depth and 3D nature of the originals. Every one is unique----almost like a finger print. Notice the fiber/fabric mentioned by pfcmoped---bottom picture.

IMG_2571 by Shannon, on Flickr

IMG_2679 by Shannon, on Flickr

Posted: 9/3/2017 2:15:16 PM EDT

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Why are those so shiny? Are they clear coated or something? I've had several sets of originals, but none that shiny...

Posted: 9/3/2017 4:32:08 PM EDT

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For sure, I had to do some work on the handguards and the clear blended everything in nicely. That was right after I shot them-----they have since dulled off some.

Talking handguards here is one that went on my bfpu (oiled up a little). Sure tells a story:

LH bpu by Shannon, on Flickr

Posted: 9/4/2017 11:47:40 AM EDT

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This Summer:
Type D Stock, M16A1 Handguards w/ Heatshield & A1 Pistol Grip.
http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126709/FullSizeRender-229758.jpg

These will be available as a kit & individually, in black, green and brown.

Pricing not yet finalized.

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Any chance of a N-type collapsing stock?

Posted: 9/4/2017 12:54:26 PM EDT

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Any chance of a N-type collapsing stock?

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M&A Parts has a Colt-style CAR stock that's very close to the N-type for only $25.50. They also sell a complete kit for $60.

Mil-Spec Car Stock Body
CAR Stock Assembly

Posted: 9/4/2017 7:01:18 PM EDT

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They are Brownells receivers machined from Nodak spud forgings. The receivers do look gray in comparison to the black magazine, the black trigger guard, and the barrel. This could have been a special set Brownells did as they usually only have black receivers.

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They test on NoDak receivers

Or did they re-spray their own receivers grey?

They are Brownells receivers machined from Nodak spud forgings. The receivers do look gray in comparison to the black magazine, the black trigger guard, and the barrel. This could have been a special set Brownells did as they usually only have black receivers.

You sure about this? I thought I saw a post by Harlan of NDS posted in this Retro forum they have nothing to do with Brownell's....

ETA: Essential Arms & Tony's make CAR aluminum butts
http://essentialarms.com/ieSTOCKS.html
https://www.tonyscustomsllc.com/product/c-a-r-stock-aluminum/

Posted: 9/4/2017 9:51:08 PM EDT

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You sure about this? I thought I saw a post by Harlan of NDS posted in this Retro forum they have nothing to do with Brownell's....

ETA: Essential Arms & Tony's make CAR aluminum butts
http://essentialarms.com/ieSTOCKS.html
https://www.tonyscustomsllc.com/product/c-a-r-stock-aluminum/

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http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/lower-receivers/ar-15-m16-a1-blemished-lower-receiver-prod107496.aspx

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/ar-15-m16-a1-upper-receiver-prod83620.aspx

Read Brownells descriptions.

Mike and Harlan have stated many times, NDS provides the forgings, Brownells has them machined somewhere else.

Posted: 9/6/2017 7:07:54 PM EDT

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Sleep deprived--thank you--I found Harlan's post where he said Brownell's buys their forgings & machine them--NDS doesn't machine.

Thanks for catching my oops

Posted: 9/6/2017 9:48:04 PM EDT

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Sleep deprived--thank you--I found Harlan's post where he said Brownell's buys their forgings & machine them--NDS doesn't machine.

Thanks for catching my oops

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Go to bed..

Posted: 9/7/2017 12:04:18 PM EDT

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I think all of us wish the Hughes amendment never passed in the first place..... I think that was 68? Either way, still sucks that we can't purchase new full-auto or even burst lowers. I'd love to have an AR that went full auto. Even if no ranges around me allowed me to, the fact that (in a better world) I was legally able to purchase this rifle with the full auto capability without really thinking anything of it, in other words this ability being nothing special, that would still rock.

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Hughes was 86.
Not that I would use it much but a fun switch would be nice to have.

I'd love some repro six hole slim carbine handguards...

Posted: 9/7/2017 5:17:26 PM EDT

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Hughes was 86.
Not that I would use it much but a fun switch would be nice to have.

I'd love some repro six hole slim carbine handguards...

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I think all of us wish the Hughes amendment never passed in the first place..... I think that was 68? Either way, still sucks that we can't purchase new full-auto or even burst lowers. I'd love to have an AR that went full auto. Even if no ranges around me allowed me to, the fact that (in a better world) I was legally able to purchase this rifle with the full auto capability without really thinking anything of it, in other words this ability being nothing special, that would still rock.

Hughes was 86.
Not that I would use it much but a fun switch would be nice to have.

I'd love some repro six hole slim carbine handguards...

I want an M1921 or M1928 Thompson smg.

Posted: 9/7/2017 5:24:05 PM EDT

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I'd love some repro six hole slim carbine handguards...

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The DS Arms CAR hand guards aren't bad.

https://www.dsarms.com/p-14109-dsa-ar15-car-handguard-tapered-with-heat-shield.aspx

Posted: 9/10/2017 10:04:02 PM EDT

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http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/furniture-sets/ar-15-retro-furniture-sets-prod109340.aspx

it's now available on their web site

Posted: 9/10/2017 10:30:19 PM EDT

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http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/furniture-sets/ar-15-retro-furniture-sets-prod109340.aspx

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They are definitely priced right. I'm real curious to see how they turned out. Especially the 601 styles.

Posted: 9/11/2017 8:18:22 AM EDT

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They are definitely priced right. I'm real curious to see how they turned out. Especially the 601 styles.

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http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/furniture-sets/ar-15-retro-furniture-sets-prod109340.aspx

it's now available on their web site

They are definitely priced right. I'm real curious to see how they turned out. Especially the 601 styles.

I was just going to order a stock since I have a couple of sets of NOS hand guards, but at that price it's worth getting the whole set.

They also have an A1 rifle stock completion kit listed which contains receiver extension, buffer, spring and stock screw. Per the Q&A, the screw is the correct A1 length.

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/buffer-tube-parts/buffer-tubes/ar-15-m16-a1-rifle-buffer-tube-assembly-a1-rifle-stock-completion-kit-sku080-000-553-27315-53574.aspx

Posted: 9/11/2017 8:25:03 AM EDT

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Ooooh, that's a great price. I wonder when the brown and green sets will be available?

It'll be nice to have affordable A1 furniture to beat up.

Posted: 9/11/2017 10:40:26 AM EDT

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One thing to notice is that it says material is polymer. That's not exactly a good sign IMO.

This may be reasonable for a 10' rifle, but I doubt it's all that accurate of a reproduction.

Posted: 9/11/2017 10:58:38 AM EDT

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Sweet! I just might buy two sets.

"Retro furniture from Brownells is not an exact copy of original components or their construction. Some areas have been changed due to manufacturing methods or to avoid counterfeit concerns."

This doesn't bother me, but I know it will bother some so, I'm pointing it out. Will be interesting to see what exactly is different VS the true USGI originals.

Posted: 9/11/2017 1:33:15 PM EDT

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Bought a set, will come back with pictures when I get it.

Posted: 9/11/2017 1:51:35 PM EDT

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Just got notification that my set will be here Thursday, I will take some pics and post when I get them.

Posted: 9/11/2017 2:42:59 PM EDT

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Awesome, guys. I hope they're as good as they look!

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Appears they also have the individual parts out now, too.

Pistol grip: http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/grip-parts/pistol-grips/ar-15-retro-pistol-grip-prod109338.aspx?avs%7cManufacturer_1=brownells

stock: http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/buttstocks/ar-15-retro-buttstocks-prod109339.aspx?avs%7cManufacturer_1=brownells

handguards: http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/forend-amp-handguard-parts/handguards-amp-rails/ar-15-retro-handguard-sets-prod109337.aspx?avs%7cManufacturer_1=brownells

If for some reason the links decide to break, the parts can be found under handguards / pistol grips / stocks as with any other part, and all three are available in black, 601 green and original brown.

I'm looking forward to ditching the a2 grip on my Windham. I hate finger notches/grooves with a passion.

Posted: 9/11/2017 3:51:54 PM EDT

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I also noticed that they are offering their upper in grey now too. Nothing mentioned on the lower though.

Posted: 9/11/2017 4:26:39 PM EDT

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I also noticed that they are offering their upper in grey now too. Nothing mentioned on the lower though.

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Where do you see this?

Posted: 9/11/2017 4:31:08 PM EDT

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I just looked at their A1 uppers on their website and it did say, now in grey...just do a google search for Brownells A1 uppers.

Posted: 9/11/2017 7:39:30 PM EDT

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I just looked at their A1 uppers on their website and it did say, now in grey...just do a google search for Brownells A1 uppers.

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I'm only seeing the black ones for sale though.

Posted: 9/11/2017 8:32:19 PM EDT

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I'm only seeing mention of gray receivers in the product description for the black ones but not for sale, probably going to show up soon though. I'm tempted to buy one each of these new furniture sets to see how they are, the price sure is right. Too bad I've already blown quite a bit of cash on retro parts already this month

Posted: 9/11/2017 8:46:09 PM EDT

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Thanks, I just bought the set and a 20" barrel!

Posted: 9/11/2017 8:55:18 PM EDT

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I wonder if the Brownells brown will match the NDS handguards.
That would be nice...

Posted: 9/12/2017 9:47:04 AM EDT

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I've been trying to convince Brownells to produce A1 furniture and barrels for years. Glad some of this stuff is finally coming back on the market. Glad to see they went sensibly priced on the furniture; that's important.

Notice they also have CAR stock bodies, Chromed BCGs (with and without F/A serrations) and A1 stock screws listed.

CAR stock body: Stock body

Chromed BCGs: Chromed BCGs

A1 Buttstock Screw: A1 Buttstock Screw

Posted: 9/12/2017 9:50:57 AM EDT

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Now, about those C7 uppers, Brownells... Lol.

Posted: 9/12/2017 9:57:29 AM EDT

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I'd just see $15 or $20 flying down range in 10 seconds every time the trigger was pulled and a magazine was emptied lol.

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^^^
This guy shoots. :)

Seriously though, glad to see Brownell's has got this going. You can pretty much buy everything you need now to make an A1 clone from them, except the sights.

Makes me consider building another one! :)

Steve

Posted: 9/12/2017 10:21:43 AM EDT

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I've been trying to convince Brownells to produce A1 furniture and barrels for years. Glad some of this stuff is finally coming back on the market. Glad to see they went sensibly priced on the furniture; that's important.

Notice they also have CAR stock bodies, Chromed BCGs (with and without F/A serrations) and A1 stock screws listed.

CAR stock body: Stock body

Chromed BCGs: Chromed BCGs

A1 Buttstock Screw: A1 Buttstock Screw

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Alas, the car15 stock is for commercial size buffer tubes and missing the strengthening ribs.

Posted: 9/12/2017 11:20:22 AM EDT

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Alas, the car15 stock is for commercial size buffer tubes and missing the strengthening ribs.

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I noticed that too, thought it was a bit strange.

Posted: 9/12/2017 12:50:03 PM EDT

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I got an ad email today with a Brownells retro link in it.

http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?avs|Newsletter_1=AR-15+Retro+Build&lp_pageid=arretrobuild&utm_medium=email&utm_source=marketo&utm_campaign=2017_09_12_retroar-a1&utm_content=rifle&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiT1Rjd1lXWmlaVE15T1dZeiIsInQiOiJOY3l6VENVd25RcFA5R243a01LUmVwU2hcL0RPU2NMYmFUb0dScHhLczRsdGhnYWlxK2E3am5vTXI0akhDajFGcktNbk55UHNPczRTZ3ExSTIybFhkRWVHeE44ZzhpRnlpc25YbTZGUEFrdGFKWWU2MllHYll3UFBXbFY1ZlZzMTQifQ%3D%3D

Posted: 9/12/2017 1:46:33 PM EDT

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Alas, the car15 stock is for commercial size buffer tubes and missing the strengthening ribs.

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Unless Brownells is selling a commercial receiver extension with a flat end, this car stock is useless. The standard commercial receiver extension has an angled end which will show when the stock is fully collapsed.

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