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Posted: 4/22/2017 5:24:44 PM EDT
they had the same father...finally got my 80% Stoner 63A receiver....now to get a few weeks when I'm not busy
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Posted: 4/22/2017 5:42:32 PM EDT
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In for updates...interesting work OP
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Posted: 4/22/2017 5:46:30 PM EDT
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Very nice! Is someone selling those?
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:17:36 PM EDT
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Thanks. It's an original Cadillac Gage blank. I display items at area gun shows with WTB signs. I've gotten a ton of 601, Colt, Stoner, WWII German and vintage motorcycle related stuff from out of the woodwork that way.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:25:50 PM EDT
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Thanks. It's an original Cadillac Gage blank. I display items at area gun shows with WTB signs. I've gotten a ton of 601, Colt, Stoner, WWII German and vintage motorcycle related stuff from out of the woodwork that way. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:26:24 PM EDT
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Anyway you can dimension that for me, I'd love to do a solid model of it??
William |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:41:23 PM EDT
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if it involves scale machinist drawings, measurements, numbers with +/- .0005" and stuff like that, it may be a while. As I update, I'll see what I can do. Maybe I can get one of the engineers at work to show me how to use the CAD software. Otherwise, it's 1977 technology and a No.2 lead pencil for me. I think Mongo posted a video with line drawings somewhere on line.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:47:11 PM EDT
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Awesome!
In for pics. 
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Posted: 4/22/2017 9:25:50 PM EDT
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Wow. That is indeed awesome. Tag for CAD info.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 9:57:52 AM EDT
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Have y'all checked with Sam Fischer /aka Mongo regarding prints and measurements? It could be a very long time before I can get to it. Have hundreds of jobs/ projects in the works.
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Posted: 5/1/2017 7:38:04 PM EDT
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In for more.
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Posted: 5/1/2017 8:01:59 PM EDT
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Tagging in
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Posted: 5/1/2017 8:18:10 PM EDT
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Ost
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Posted: 5/2/2017 1:08:56 AM EDT
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Post sample or trying to create a semi?
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Posted: 5/2/2017 4:48:00 PM EDT
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Building it as a semi auto that will not accept original full auto parts. Once that is done, my employer (an 07/02) said we can make a conversion kit for it.
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Posted: 5/2/2017 5:34:21 PM EDT
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Schaz42/ William, my phone won't let me answer your PM. I'll respond tomorrow from work. Sorry for delay.
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Posted: 5/2/2017 5:37:29 PM EDT
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Subscribed.
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Posted: 5/3/2017 9:21:21 AM EDT
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Looking forward to up dates. Subscribed as well.
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Posted: 5/5/2017 12:42:03 PM EDT
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Gathered a few original parts. Some more on the way. |
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Posted: 5/5/2017 1:31:27 PM EDT
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Look all that sweet goodness
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Posted: 5/5/2017 5:56:37 PM EDT
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Me thinks you are a few pieces short.
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Posted: 5/5/2017 6:30:08 PM EDT
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Always accepting donations, Sarge ;) ....just kidding. Actually it's a lot more parts than when I posted just a blank receiver...... and I have some more enroute. I figure whatever parts I haven't dug up in the next 4-5 months, we'll make :)
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Posted: 5/7/2017 8:34:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2017 7:58:27 PM EDT
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Starting to look like a partial parts kit. Looks like I'll be starting a carbine build. Have to return the Commando barrel after I measure it.
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Posted: 5/21/2017 8:57:30 PM EDT
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Very nice. Keep us posted.
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Posted: 5/21/2017 9:01:38 PM EDT
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Damn!
Can't wait to see it done.
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Posted: 5/24/2017 7:56:47 PM EDT
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"I can fix it. My dad's a TV repair man. He's got a bitchin' set of tools." Gunbroker "Buy it now" of $250 yielded approx. 45 parts I can use on my project (not counting a half zillion Belleville washers). I'll salvage them all at the shop sometime next week, if I get time. Moving along nicely. Glad my tetanus shots are current.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 12:06:57 PM EDT
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**jaw hits floor**. You win. I'd love to have a semi of that. Holy smokes.. Well done dude.
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Posted: 5/26/2017 1:39:17 PM EDT
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Damn man you might actually pull this off. Very excited for pics and video of the whole process
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Posted: 5/27/2017 7:25:07 PM EDT
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Soaking in rust penetrant. One of my favorite stories when I was growing up was Stone Soup. My project has turned into Stoner Soup. I started with a stone...someone brought some vegetables, someone brought some meat....Stoner Soup (have to post a pic later. Tinypic not cooperating).
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Posted: 5/28/2017 5:47:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2017 8:50:05 PM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 5/29/2017 1:00:34 AM EDT
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I only bought one....honest...(mainly so I don't have to make a trunnion or mounting points).
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Posted: 5/29/2017 10:36:07 AM EDT
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take lots of pictures when you peal the sheet metal off the trunion. I would like to see the exact way the mount pins interface with the trunion.
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Posted: 5/29/2017 11:04:16 AM EDT
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Will do. There is a heavy coat of weld around the pins (IIRC), but I'll do my best.
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Posted: 5/29/2017 6:06:26 PM EDT
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Will do. There is a heavy coat of weld around the pins (IIRC), but I'll do my best. 
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Posted: 5/29/2017 7:05:19 PM EDT
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I figured they went into it and were used to center in the hole receiver hole (in addition to mounting on a tripod). Having never seen a virgin trunnion nor an original print, I'm not sure if they are press fit/interference fit or threaded into the trunnion. Mine are damaged on the ends and I was going to machine them off and replace them. Thanks much for the print (in the event we have to make one).
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Posted: 6/2/2017 6:54:21 PM EDT
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Wow, you have any more of those prints?
William Quote HistoryQuoted:
I assumed you knew this but in case you do not, the pins protrude into the trunion. The one I have seen peeled out of the receiver had the pins machined down but I do not know if that is necessary or not. http://i.imgur.com/XgXbSWt.jpg |
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Posted: 6/2/2017 10:44:33 PM EDT
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Wow, you have any more of those prints? William |
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Posted: 6/3/2017 12:01:46 AM EDT
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I long for a semi stoner 63
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Posted: 6/3/2017 9:51:31 PM EDT
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Thanks, Sarge. You and Schaz42 have been extremely helpful from a technical standpoint. Still stripping the demi Stoner parts (a mix of 63 and 63A parts). Between a mill, die grinder, file, hammer and punch set, I'm getting there. Unfortunately, the saying is true (especially in this case)....a gun's two worst enemies.....rust and politicians. And in this case, hang them all for treason and destruction of national treasures. Will have to drill out all of the roll pins and solid pins because of rust. Still able to salvage more parts than I need. Will post photos of them next week. Thanks again.
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Posted: 6/4/2017 10:26:06 PM EDT
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I long for a semi stoner 63 |
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Posted: 6/4/2017 10:38:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: damn you Alex Robinson.... you had one job... 
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Posted: 6/6/2017 1:17:20 PM EDT
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Okay Sarge, with a die grinder cut off wheel and a pair of pliers, the sheet metal receiver pieces peeled away from the trunnion except from where it was welded around the mounting pin. The part that looks like I ground into the trunnion was where the weld fused to the trunnion around the mounting pin. I had to grind about 1/1000" down into the trunnion to break through to show the trunnion to pin interface outline. That will get rewelded so it's no biggie (in fact, it's the first time I did something by myself that my boss that didn't say that it looks like a monkey did that
). As the pins have to come out to reinstall the trunnion, I'll have to mill/drill them out and install new ones. Now to soak it and hope the rust welds break to free up the barrel pin and the extension. It may have just be easier to make a new trunnion. Again, thanks for your help.
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Posted: 6/6/2017 5:22:53 PM EDT
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The parts keep coming out of the woodwork. Have a few more parts inbound. If I stopped acquisitions now, for a carbine configuration, all we'll have to make will be a rear sight, trigger guard, gas tube, bolt carrier, and op rod. Weld the trigger housing back together. Weld all the mounting points in place. Engrave the receiver and trigger housing. Phosphate or black nitride the finished pieces. And it may just work. Fingers crossed. I haven't been this excited about a gun project since I converted my HK94 to an MP5. |
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Posted: 6/6/2017 8:52:12 PM EDT
[#45]
Simply awesome. Keep it going!
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Posted: 6/6/2017 9:16:56 PM EDT
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Really coming together nicely man!
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Posted: 6/6/2017 10:30:39 PM EDT
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I know some one with a 63 op rod without the carrier. He is willing to sell it and I can find out a price if you are interested in it. You would have to weld a tab on it to work with the 63A receiver but other wise they are the same. He also has a couple of trigger housings and he might part with one. They are 63a housings. Those I am not sure if he is into selling them but he might.
Is that fore grip off an airsoft gun or an original? 
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Posted: 6/7/2017 3:01:03 AM EDT
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That would be great if you could ask. Had to cheat on the stock and fore end. They are air soft. I'm just building a novelty range toy and it doesn't have to withstand the rigors of military testing. I just missed out on an original MG fore end for under $100 :( Thanks again for your help.
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Posted: 6/7/2017 10:43:20 AM EDT
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From the little I've read it seems this rifle was a good system. Why was it dropped?
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Posted: 6/8/2017 11:33:51 AM EDT
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It was (and still is) a neat concept. It had some flaws that had not been worked out. Politics, timing, and economic considerations helped prevent it from being adopted as a primary service rifle/ machine gun by the US military. There is a lot out there written about the subject. As flawed as it may be, it has a following.
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