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Posted: 2/26/2017 6:56:29 PM EDT
Talking to a guy on face book and he said he had a rare early AR folding stock. I have never heard of such a thing. Or seen a model that it would go on.....
Any ideas? 
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Posted: 2/26/2017 7:00:47 PM EDT
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I've never heard of that either, but it looks like it's based on a Type D stock. Could it be for an AR-18?
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Posted: 2/26/2017 7:21:02 PM EDT
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I thought that too but the hinge and stock are different
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Posted: 2/26/2017 7:23:56 PM EDT
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Looks to me the stock has been freshly cut.
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Posted: 2/26/2017 7:49:08 PM EDT
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Looks to me the stock has been freshly cut. Agreed. You can see the stock dust from the cut on the hinge. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 8:06:15 PM EDT
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Agreed looks to be a homebrew if you ask me.
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Posted: 2/26/2017 8:18:38 PM EDT
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pretty rare.
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Posted: 2/26/2017 8:54:59 PM EDT
[#7]
Obviously off a piston AR.
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Posted: 2/26/2017 9:01:06 PM EDT
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Looks like it could be a Valmet folding stock hinge.The tube stock from a Valmet with the butt plate removed would fit right in an AR stock.
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Posted: 2/26/2017 9:29:18 PM EDT
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Looks like it could be a Valmet folding stock hinge.The tube stock from a Valmet with the butt plate removed would fit right in an AR stock. http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a443/hansellhd/DSCN2477_zps86f92eaa.jpg http://www.valmet.org/valmet6.jpg Yeah, it looks like someone modded a type D to fit a Valmet, |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:20:28 PM EDT
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That is a homebrew stock, I saw a few of them with Marines when we went to Grenada, but they were never an issued item, if he really has one, it is very rare and you will never find any official documentation about them.
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:55:08 PM EDT
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That is a homebrew stock, I saw a few of them with Marines when we went to Grenada, but they were never an issued item, if he really has one, it is very rare and you will never find any official documentation about them. I didn't realize that Marines had piston AR rifles in Grenada. Ha! |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 12:34:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a homebrew stock, I saw a few of them with Marines when we went to Grenada, but they were never an issued item, if he really has one, it is very rare and you will never find any official documentation about them. Do continue, good sir. Would you like to explain how it worked, and what the requirement was that Marines were issued such a complex variation on the M-16? |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 12:36:09 AM EDT
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I didn't realize that Marines had piston AR rifles in Grenada. Ha! You would be amazed at the different things the guys came up with, when the need arose, I have seen some really odd ball stuff in the time I served! |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 12:38:53 AM EDT
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Do continue, good sir. Would you like to explain how it worked, and what the requirement was that Marines were issued such a complex variation on the M-16? They weren't issued, they were modified by some of the guys, myself, I carried a normal run of the mill issue M16A2. I was Army, so I was not really privy to what the Marines were doing at that time. Like I said, I saw a lot of odd ball stuff during my time in the service. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 12:45:45 AM EDT
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They weren't issued, they were modified by some of the guys, myself, I carried a normal run of the mill issue M16A2. I was Army, so I was not really privy to what the Marines were doing at that time. Like I said, I saw a lot of odd ball stuff during my time in the service. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Do continue, good sir. Would you like to explain how it worked, and what the requirement was that Marines were issued such a complex variation on the M-16? They weren't issued, they were modified by some of the guys, myself, I carried a normal run of the mill issue M16A2. I was Army, so I was not really privy to what the Marines were doing at that time. Like I said, I saw a lot of odd ball stuff during my time in the service. Indeed. Like folding stocks that prevent the bolt carrier from recoiling into the buffer tube? ETA: You were issued an M16A2 in 1983? |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 1:03:28 AM EDT
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Indeed. Like folding stocks that prevent the bolt carrier from recoiling into the buffer tube? ETA: You were issued an M16A2 in 1983? Yes, I was issued an A2 in '83, they did not become prevalent in the Army until later, but a few of us Officers did have them. The Marines used them before we did. You do know that you can do a search for M16 Folding Stock and see how some of the modifications were done, right? There are lots of little ingenious things that have been done over the last 40 years. Not by me mind you. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 1:04:57 AM EDT
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They weren't issued, they were modified by some of the guys, myself, I carried a normal run of the mill issue M16A2. I was Army, so I was not really privy to what the Marines were doing at that time. Like I said, I saw a lot of odd ball stuff during my time in the service. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do continue, good sir. Would you like to explain how it worked, and what the requirement was that Marines were issued such a complex variation on the M-16? They weren't issued, they were modified by some of the guys, myself, I carried a normal run of the mill issue M16A2. I was Army, so I was not really privy to what the Marines were doing at that time. Like I said, I saw a lot of odd ball stuff during my time in the service. The US Army didn't adopt the A2 until 86. As far as I know, Panama was the first use of the A2 in combat. Every picture I've seen of Grenada has US Army issued A1s. Got picture to back up the claim that you had a A2 in those days? |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 1:08:31 AM EDT
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The US Army didn't adopt the A2 until 86. As far as I know, Panama was the first use of the A2 in combat. Every picture I've seen of Grenada has US Army issued A1s. Got picture to back up the claim that you had a A2 in those days? No, I don't have any pictures.. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 1:25:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, I was issued an A2 in '83, they did not become prevalent in the Army until later, but a few of us Officers did have them. The Marines used them before we did.
You do know that you can do a search for M16 Folding Stock and see how some of the modifications were done, right? There are lots of little ingenious things that have been done over the last 40 years. Not by me mind you. Dave, I'd like to believe that you were an Army officer in 1983, & carried an M16A2 in the Grenada invasion, and saw some Marines w/ folding stocked M-16s. That's a bit much to chew. I don't doubt you were issued a M16A2 during your time in the service, but I'll wager you have your timeline mixed up. And I'll bet you thought you saw folding stocked M16s, and I'll bet you saw something else that looked like that. Maybe every word you've posted is true, but it's a bit hard to swallow w/o any documentation. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 1:26:19 AM EDT
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No, I don't have any pictures.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The US Army didn't adopt the A2 until 86. As far as I know, Panama was the first use of the A2 in combat. Every picture I've seen of Grenada has US Army issued A1s. Got picture to back up the claim that you had a A2 in those days? No, I don't have any pictures.. Ya, what I figured. I think you are probably full of shit about the folding stock and having an M16A2 in Grenada. Can't say for sure on the rest, but the stink is there. Maybe you are just confused as to the timeline? Willing to give you the benefit of doubt. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 1:27:33 AM EDT
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Believe what you want guys..
No skin off my nose. I give others the benefit of the doubt quite often. 
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Posted: 2/27/2017 1:30:59 AM EDT
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Believe what you want guys.. No skin off my nose. I give others the benefit of the doubt quite often. You just gotta understand, it is a bit hard to believe. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 1:36:57 AM EDT
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You just gotta understand, it is a bit hard to believe. Okay |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 3:37:12 AM EDT
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You just gotta understand, it is a bit hard to believe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Believe what you want guys.. No skin off my nose. I give others the benefit of the doubt quite often. You just gotta understand, it is a bit hard to believe. Hell I had a AR-15A2 HBAR(R6600) with A2 sights and that was a new thing in 1988 as they only started putting A2 sights on the Sporter models in 1986. Did you get one of the first ones issued? |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 4:19:37 AM EDT
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If you guys spent more time in GD you would know when you were getting trolled.
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Posted: 2/27/2017 8:50:00 AM EDT
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Yep... no doubt. If the guy has almost 6000 posts in two years, and makes repeated insane claims, he is either a complete fuktard or trolling for fun. Don't wrestle with pigs.... no an interesting thread was trashed.
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Posted: 2/27/2017 9:44:49 PM EDT
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@coldblue
To the fact check board. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 11:41:49 PM EDT
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I'm not sure where some of the people above were going on this one but.......
It is without a doubt one half of a Valmet rifle folding buttstock hinge/mount that was adapted to an type "D" buttstock and it was obviously never a folding buttstock for an AR or M16 platform rifle (D.I. or piston driven) since the other half of the Valmet folding stock hinge/mount (not shown) would not work on an AR platform without a modified mount to adapt it to an AR lower receiver and more importantly the fact that there is no where for bolt carrier to go back in to. The real and simpler answer is that someone adapted a type "D" buttstock to a Valmet folding hinge/mount to be used on a Valmet rifle so they could have a full and more comfortable buttstock rather then the standard tubular ones that sometimes come on those rifles from the factory. Seems simple and obvious to me. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 12:31:36 AM EDT
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I'm not sure where some of the people above were going on this one but....... It is without a doubt one half of a Valmet rifle folding buttstock hinge/mount that was adapted to an type "D" buttstock and it was obviously never a folding buttstock for an AR or M16 platform rifle (D.I. or piston driven) since the other half of the Valmet folding stock hinge/mount (not shown) would not work on an AR platform without a modified mount to adapt it to an AR lower receiver and more importantly the fact that there is no where for bolt carrier to go back in to. The real and simpler answer is that someone adapted a type "D" buttstock to a Valmet folding hinge/mount to be used on a Valmet rifle so they could have a full and more comfortable buttstock rather then the standard tubular ones that sometimes come on those rifles from the factory. Seems simple and obvious to me. Very succinct and well written, AND it avoids all of the other BS that this thread entails. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 12:37:23 AM EDT
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I was thinking it might be a AR-18 Stock
Red |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 9:40:35 AM EDT
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I'm not sure where some of the people above were going on this one but....... It is without a doubt one half of a Valmet rifle folding buttstock hinge/mount that was adapted to an type "D" buttstock and it was obviously never a folding buttstock for an AR or M16 platform rifle (D.I. or piston driven) since the other half of the Valmet folding stock hinge/mount (not shown) would not work on an AR platform without a modified mount to adapt it to an AR lower receiver and more importantly the fact that there is no where for bolt carrier to go back in to. The real and simpler answer is that someone adapted a type "D" buttstock to a Valmet folding hinge/mount to be used on a Valmet rifle so they could have a full and more comfortable buttstock rather then the standard tubular ones that sometimes come on those rifles from the factory. Seems simple and obvious to me. Thank you sir , I appreciate it |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 9:41:25 AM EDT
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I was thinking it might be a AR-18 Stock Red I thought the same thing.... and then I thought it was a stoner 63 stock...... but the stocks are both very different |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 10:55:33 AM EDT
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The real and simpler answer is that someone adapted a type "D" buttstock to a Valmet folding hinge/mount to be used on a Valmet rifle so they could have a full and more comfortable buttstock rather then the standard tubular ones that sometimes come on those rifles from the factory. More importantly, I want to see pictures of this think mounted on a Valmet! I bet it looks awesome as well as being comfortable. |
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