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Link Posted: 2/25/2017 11:45:42 AM EDT
[#1]
Beautiful collection. Thanks for sharing
Link Posted: 2/25/2017 8:25:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Very impressive.
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 1:02:00 AM EDT
[#3]
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Mine are now converted to mm from inches.

But i found this

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcVnBwSFk2UC1rWlU
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcbHppZHNUMUl0N1U

Gunshelp in Poland make them, something like 110 Dollars. They build the Barrels for these Rifles and some other rare Parts.

FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/Gunshelpcom/
You don’t need to register to see the pictures. When you scroll down there are pictures from building the 607 and other retro.
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Thanks 
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 2:24:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Extremely impressive.
Link Posted: 2/27/2017 11:21:18 AM EDT
[#5]
Super cool collection!
Link Posted: 2/28/2017 6:58:45 PM EDT
[#6]
Awesome collection.
Link Posted: 3/1/2017 2:01:38 PM EDT
[#7]
Very very nice
Link Posted: 3/2/2017 11:11:34 AM EDT
[#8]
WOW ... nice collection!

My wife and I will be moving to Poland in a few years. She was born and raised in Wroclaw. Maybe you can answer this, how big of a deal will it be for me to bring my guns with me?

Also, could you get Poland to drop the damn gender assigned verbs, learning Polish has been a real pain in the ass!  

ETA: Polish AK best AK
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 3:33:04 PM EDT
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How many Polish does it take to own better guns than 87% percent of arfcom?Just one.
murica..
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more like 97%
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 4:34:21 PM EDT
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Damn.... may be the best first post I've seen. Well done
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This!  

Full Auto Colt 10/10
Manly first post 10/10
Speaks better English than any of us speak polish! 10/10
Open invite to shoot if in Poland 10/10

Wow....just wow!
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 4:49:16 PM EDT
[#11]
Has to be the sickest retro collection ever posted on here, full auto. 
Link Posted: 3/4/2017 7:22:56 AM EDT
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WOW ... nice collection!

My wife and I will be moving to Poland in a few years. She was born and raised in Wroclaw. Maybe you can answer this, how big of a deal will it be for me to bring my guns with me?

Also, could you get Poland to drop the damn gender assigned verbs, learning Polish has been a real pain in the ass!  

ETA: Polish AK best AK
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1.You will need the Polish citizenship or the “Polish Card” (not 100% sure about that)
2.Membership in a Collectors Club
3.The Weapons License exam, when you pass it you have a “Gun license”
4.Import the Weapons from US

But you need to learn the language.

Maybe when you are lucky in some time it will be easier to pass the exam. But now its pain in the A….

Yeahhh , the Polish Radom AKs have very good clean finish
Link Posted: 3/4/2017 3:52:01 PM EDT
[#13]
BRAVO!  Great collection.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 7:54:25 PM EDT
[#14]
Can somebody tell me after the rear pattern what stock this is?
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcVEo0ZFFuTWpuUms
After sandblasting the markings are gone. The stock was vinyl coated.

Maybe not retro anymore but still a PIG :)
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcOEMyRDNWME5VUlE
Some fun at the indoor range, my apprentices

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcU20wUHF1MDRVRFk
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcV3VaTFdqcmUyeTg

Cleaning. There was more but not retro topic, Greats
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcME9nYUJKX3dCM3c
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 11:52:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Wow really really really awesome work Tony.  Thank you for showing your collection
Link Posted: 4/24/2017 12:03:38 AM EDT
[#16]
I'm late to the thread, but your firearms are very nice.  I was going to ask how difficult it was to get the FULL license, but you hit on it already.  How are the prices on these rifles in Poland?  

With the FULL license, can you convert or make full auto firearms, or do you have to buy ones that already exist (from dealers I presume)?

Rob
Link Posted: 4/24/2017 6:25:05 AM EDT
[#17]
Before the European Union Lefty Commission first Gun Ban (after the attacks in Paris)
The Prices for an m16a1 Rifle Kit were between 400e to 500e, 900e for a new Rifle.
There was everything without the Barrel and Bolt. Before the Paris Story in most countries in Europe, only the Barrel and Bolt were Parts with the “Gun License” Permission the rest is free you must be only 18years old.

Now a m16a1 Kit cost something like 700e and a new one 1300e.
My rifles and carbines were built mostly from m16a1 kits.
The making of a Retro Barrel cost something like 550e Walther Lothar. In Europe its almost impossible to buy retro barrels like in the US.
The retro aluminum stocks, two position buffer tubes and other rear stuff were imported from the US :)

Example. Xm177e2: 400e m16a1 Kit + 550e Barrel +100e Bolt + Aluminium stock, two position buffer tube, small castle nut 150e + small Handguards 40e + Moderator 110e. Total =1350e

M16a1 Rifle: 400e for the Kit +550 Barrel +100e Bolt. Total =1050e

The Parts are all Full Auto.
When you have the "Full Collector License" they stay like that. When not the Weapons get a sear block like shown of the first Site of this Topic.

Classic a1 Navy Seal Desert Storm Style :)

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcZy1aQ0E4YmwyVnM
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcLTZ1NWJrQnJHeFU
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcd2tHXzUyWHJSYjg
Link Posted: 4/24/2017 6:33:01 AM EDT
[#18]
Very nice

Thanks for sharing
Link Posted: 4/24/2017 7:44:51 AM EDT
[#19]
That is a museum quality collection. I salute you!
I can see that it took many hours of you time to build your collection. 
You are an expert.
Link Posted: 4/24/2017 8:00:12 AM EDT
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That is a museum quality collection. I salute you!
I can see that it took many hours of you time to build your collection. 
You are an expert.
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Solid $700,000+ USD collection over here
Link Posted: 4/24/2017 8:04:25 AM EDT
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Before the European Union Lefty Commission first Gun Ban (after the attacks in Paris)
The Prices for an m16a1 Rifle Kit were between 400e to 500e, 900e for a new Rifle.
There was everything without the Barrel and Bolt. Before the Paris Story in most countries in Europe, only the Barrel and Bolt were Parts with the “Gun License” Permission the rest is free you must be only 18years old.

Now a m16a1 Kit cost something like 700e and a new one 1300e.
My rifles and carbines were built mostly from m16a1 kits.
The making of a Retro Barrel cost something like 550e Walther Lothar. In Europe its almost impossible to buy retro barrels like in the US.
The retro aluminum stocks, two position buffer tubes and other rear stuff were imported from the US :)

Example. Xm177e2: 400e m16a1 Kit + 550e Barrel +100e Bolt + Aluminium stock, two position buffer tube, small castle nut 150e + small Handguards 40e + Moderator 110e. Total =1350e

M16a1 Rifle: 400e for the Kit +550 Barrel +100e Bolt. Total =1050e

The Parts are all Full Auto.
When you have the "Full Collector License" they stay like that. When not the Weapons get a sear block like shown of the first Site of this Topic.

Classic a1 Navy Seal Desert Storm Style :)

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcZy1aQ0E4YmwyVnM
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcLTZ1NWJrQnJHeFU
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcd2tHXzUyWHJSYjg
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The prices over there are better than over here.
Link Posted: 4/24/2017 1:57:52 PM EDT
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That is a museum quality collection. I salute you!
I can see that it took many hours of you time to build your collection. 
You are an expert.
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That is a museum quality collection. I salute you!
I can see that it took many hours of you time to build your collection. 
You are an expert.
Thanks
It took my some years, many days of hunting for the parts on the internet, many reading about Retro Rifles and and. The Plan is to build every American Special Forces Service Rifle, started from Vietnam. I have uniforms and other period correct gear.

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLceGlZTW45TzV1dEE

I’m not an expert, there are better experts on this forum with big knowledge I am only a silent reader

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Solid $700,000+ USD collection over here
Some people buy expensive cars other cool Pony Rifles
You need the right Pony mobile to go to the range
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcdlNiVnlmR1Rsbmc
Link Posted: 4/25/2017 12:00:11 AM EDT
[#23]
In any language, really nice!!!
Link Posted: 4/25/2017 1:04:11 AM EDT
[#24]
Thanks for sharing.  Pretty awesome collection in any country.  

Going to ad Poland to my list of better retirement communities.
Link Posted: 4/25/2017 1:45:24 AM EDT
[#25]
I wish I could do this in Hungary...


can you adopt me please??

Link Posted: 4/25/2017 6:10:29 AM EDT
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I wish I could do this in Hungary...


can you adopt me please??

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Thx You've made my day
Link Posted: 4/26/2017 2:20:10 PM EDT
[#27]
You asked why nobody modifies M16A1 rifles and sends them back to the US... in the US, once a machinegun always a machinegun, and therefore not eligible for importation since 1968 (even with a sear block like you posted). Even though it would be harder to make it a machinegun again vs a typical AR lower, it still counts as one.

I don't know what the law would be on importing the parts kit other than lower receiver. I know it's now hard to find AK parts kits with original barrels, the M16A1 might be different or might not - I just don't know.
Link Posted: 4/26/2017 4:52:41 PM EDT
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You asked why nobody modifies M16A1 rifles and sends them back to the US... in the US, once a machinegun always a machinegun, and therefore not eligible for importation since 1968 (even with a sear block like you posted). Even though it would be harder to make it a machinegun again vs a typical AR lower, it still counts as one.

I don't know what the law would be on importing the parts kit other than lower receiver. I know it's now hard to find AK parts kits with original barrels, the M16A1 might be different or might not - I just don't know.
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Thanks for the answer now I understand.
But I have some questions, you can buy a barrel, upper or other parts from a weapon that was a machinegun. I understand that a weapon kit is legal, a complete working rifle not?
When you can buy a upper from a machinegun why not a converted lower?
Next question is, FA parts like Bolt, hammer, selector. I have seen semi rifles with FA parts like Bolt, or hammer is this legal? Or is only the FA Sear illegal? Sorry for so much questions, I try to understand the US Law
Link Posted: 4/26/2017 7:05:15 PM EDT
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Thanks for the answer now I understand.
But I have some questions, you can buy a barrel, upper or other parts from a weapon that was a machinegun. I understand that a weapon kit is legal, a complete working rifle not?
When you can buy a upper from a machinegun why not a converted lower?
Next question is, FA parts like Bolt, hammer, selector. I have seen semi rifles with FA parts like Bolt, or hammer is this legal? Or is only the FA Sear illegal? Sorry for so much questions, I try to understand the US Law
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The only part considered a machinegun is the lower receiver (on ARs), or whatever receiver is legally the firearm (on something else, for example the upper on a SCAR).

My understanding is that federally, you can buy a complete M16A1 parts kit (hard to find now) legally. As long as you don't drill the sear pin hole, you haven't broken any laws. I'm in California, we have our own laws and the sear is illegal.

There's also the question of importation, that's different from what's already in the country. I don't know what the laws are regarding importing US made machine gun parts, under the Gun Control Act of 1968 machine guns generally can't be imported. I know all the recent AK parts kits haven't been able to include barrels (maybe 8 years ago? I'm making that up) too.

90% (I'm making this number up) of BCGs are M16 profile (even in California). Most uppers are cut for the sear too.
Link Posted: 4/27/2017 10:18:02 AM EDT
[#30]
Thx for the explanation, still  It's a pity that US collectors can’t have US made Service Rifles.
Link Posted: 4/27/2017 1:57:03 PM EDT
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Thx for the explanation, still  It's a pity that US collectors can’t have US made Service Rifles.
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We can, and some of us do.
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 12:11:32 PM EDT
[#32]
Good to hear, how much cost a m16a1 Machinegun in the US? Or how much Taxes cost a FA lower?

I found something new. They lock battle used butt the price is ok for this days. New refinish and I think they will lock nice again.
http://www.zib-militaria.de/epages/61431412.sf/en_GB/?ViewObjectPath=%2FShops%2F61431412%2FProducts%2F10395

Ak kits.

http://www.zib-militaria.de/epages/61431412.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61431412/Products/90074
http://www.zib-militaria.de/epages/61431412.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61431412/Products/120054
http://www.zib-militaria.de/epages/61431412.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61431412/Products/90070
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 1:45:49 PM EDT
[#33]
Until 1986, you could build one with a $200 tax stamp and approval of your local chief of police or sheriff (approval not required for businesses or trusts but I don't think NFA trusts were a thing at the time). Since then, however, no new ones have been allowed. An M16 that's transferable to a normal person is outrageously expensive at this point because of the limited supply - I think on the order of $20,000 but I'm in a state that doesn't allow them (and don't have the money anyway) so I haven't really looked. Prices will only continue to increase unless something changes.

Manufacturers who do the right paperwork can build new ones as "demonstration" guns for police agencies and so on, but they can't be transferred to normal people and you end up paying thousands of dollars a year in taxes/fees/etc if you're that type of manufacturer.
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 4:31:33 PM EDT
[#34]
Ruben Mendiola always has some interesting stuff. Not cheap, but interesting.

Here's a M16A1 for $29,995.

http://dealernfa.com/shop/colt-m16a1-rifle-9394538/
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 4:44:44 PM EDT
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Ruben Mendiola always has some interesting stuff. Not cheap, but interesting.

Here's a M16A1 for $29,995.

http://dealernfa.com/shop/colt-m16a1-rifle-9394538/
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Cool Site and the stuff listed there! But very expensive. I was thinking the FA Ban was for security reasons, but now I see it was for money reasons
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 5:47:03 PM EDT
[#36]
Wow nice toys, and that stg44 very nice.
Link Posted: 4/29/2017 9:38:31 AM EDT
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Wow nice toys, and that stg44 very nice.
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Thanks
Unfortunately the WW2 guns aren’t mine. It’s a Picture from the Museum
Link Posted: 5/10/2017 2:07:33 AM EDT
[#38]
Hi Guys I am in the US now Phoenix Scottsdale till Friday and then in US Ordnance and Tampa. When Somebody wants to High Five and talk about old rifles write me a message.

Best Regards

Tony
Link Posted: 5/10/2017 7:39:38 PM EDT
[#39]
Very nice collection!
Although wrong that other nations can own American made historical firearms so easily & we cannot.
I wish you'd be here longer.Live just on the other side of Tampa Bay.
God Bless!
Link Posted: 5/10/2017 7:49:13 PM EDT
[#40]
Poland is my favorite Euro country!
Link Posted: 5/11/2017 9:35:00 AM EDT
[#41]
Wish we could own post 86 select fire autos and we didnt have to become SOT. ect.
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 12:19:20 AM EDT
[#42]
Welcome and Wow.

Had no idea about the Full Auto Collector in your country. Fantastic collection!
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 12:38:01 AM EDT
[#43]
I'm getting alot of flack from other liberal Europeans that don't believe you and that this  can happen.
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 1:11:54 AM EDT
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Hi Guys I am in the US now Phoenix Scottsdale till Friday and then in US Ordnance and Tampa. When Somebody wants to High Five and talk about old rifles write me a message.

Best Regards

Tony
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Post in Arizona and Florida hometown forums.

Im sure there are some guys that will take you out
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 11:07:43 AM EDT
[#45]
If you are ever over in the St Augustine or Jacksonville area let me know. I'll buy you a drink.
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 7:03:35 PM EDT
[#46]
I'm in Tampa. It looks like I will be busy.
Have to wait for colleague...and go on a SOFIC...
I will be here till to wednesday morning


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I'm getting alot of flack from other liberal Europeans that don't believe you and that this  can happen.
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Liberal (Leftys)
When they come from Poland tell them please they need to read the polish Gun Law, not only read, read with understanding then they will see that you can own FA Guns. But like I wrote, its hard and you need to battle something like 3 years with the Bureaucratic when you don’t give up you will win. And a short video for them, its old and cut to hide my face, FA Accuracy Proof https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7IR-cabDYLcSDBQdTZxZlFGak0
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If you are ever over in the St Augustine or Jacksonville area let me know. I'll buy you a drink.
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I will do, Thx
Link Posted: 6/13/2017 7:52:14 AM EDT
[#47]
What do you Guys thing about this Battle Pickup receiver Light Gray. Built it or leave it?
Plans for a xm16e1 style Rifle witch 3 Prong and type D stock.
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcMjhqOG1wRG9QalU
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcdFdLVGwtaWdjaHc

I forgotten to mention about a great artifact what I have. The FSB on this Rifle was found in Vietnam Hamburger Hill, with a rusty piece of barrel. After Sandblasting and Parkerizing the FSB looks great again.
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B7IR-cabDYLcSzBCRHppclVXX2M
Link Posted: 6/13/2017 10:12:39 AM EDT
[#48]
WOW, GREAT COLLECTION!  Thank you for sharing!  Welcome to the forum.
Link Posted: 6/13/2017 9:58:10 PM EDT
[#49]
That is a Godlike collection.

How did you get the M14's?
Link Posted: 6/13/2017 10:27:52 PM EDT
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That is a Godlike collection.

How did you get the M14's?
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Thanks

The m14's come from a Kit http://www.augustine-waffenteile.de/shop/M14-M1-A/Deact-Weapons/US-Rifle-M14-Part-set-complete-without-barrel-and-bolt-fullauto::368.html
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