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Posted: 11/30/2016 8:55:45 AM EDT
The chances of a '65 rifle having one is close to zero....correct?
Link Posted: 11/30/2016 11:37:06 AM EDT
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if you mean on a M16, then yes, nearing 50 years later it would be gone. unless this M16 was squirreled away all these years, and wasn't subject to thousand of soldiers handling,  cleaning it. those were ink stamped on, it wasn't made to be a permanent
Link Posted: 11/30/2016 11:43:17 AM EDT
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if you mean on a M16, then yes, nearing 50 years later it would be gone. unless this M16 was squirreled away all these years. those were ink stamped on, it wasn't made to be a permanent
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No..I mean as built...would they have ink stamped a '65 rifle.
Link Posted: 11/30/2016 11:52:11 AM EDT
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OK, thought you were referring to still being on the rifle.

all military weapons, would have to have  a acceptance stamp on it. they had them from the 50s produced M1s, M14 and M16 till today. military equipment components etc..... would have them as well, if they didn't have it physically stamped on the item, the paperwork that came with it would have
Link Posted: 11/30/2016 12:02:33 PM EDT
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It's been mentioned here that the stamp wasn't used on rifles until ~'67..  I'm trying to confirm if that is still the case....



Would a '65 XM16E1 have a stamp or not?
Link Posted: 11/30/2016 5:58:10 PM EDT
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Yes watch YouTube army training videos on the xm16 you'll see it.
Link Posted: 11/30/2016 8:53:45 PM EDT
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Yes watch YouTube army training videos on the xm16 you'll see it.
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I watched this video:

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl7sM19-_Zw



And didn't see any...is there another video?
Link Posted: 11/30/2016 9:44:10 PM EDT
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retroblackrifle.com notes:

From 1967-1968 a large DOD stamp was stamped on the right side of the magwell.
From 1968-1993 a small DOD stamp was stamped on the front of the magwell.
Link Posted: 11/30/2016 11:04:21 PM EDT
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Any small arms starting with XM prefix are considered "experimental" and would not receive a DAS acceptance mark. Only when the rifle got "officially accepted" and the nomenclature was changed to reflect it.
XM16E1/603, when "officially accepted"  became the M16A1/603.
For some strange reason, I have never seen evidence of any model 601s or 602s marked with the stamp.
Link Posted: 12/1/2016 9:49:16 AM EDT
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Any small arms starting with XM prefix are considered "experimental" and would not receive a DAS acceptance mark. Only when the rifle got "officially accepted" and the nomenclature was changed to reflect it.
XM16E1/603, when "officially accepted"  became the M16A1/603.
For some strange reason, I have never seen evidence of any model 601s or 602s marked with the stamp.
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So a '65 rifle wouldn't have one and there is no new evidence to suggest otherwise?
Link Posted: 12/1/2016 10:03:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/1/2016 10:38:11 PM EDT
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So a '65 rifle wouldn't have one and there is no new evidence to suggest otherwise?
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Correct, that is my understanding.
But then to add confusion, the XM177E2 did receive a DAS stamp. Go figure.
Link Posted: 12/1/2016 10:51:00 PM EDT
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Correct, that is my understanding.
But then to add confusion, the XM177E2 did receive a DAS stamp. Go figure.
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So a '65 rifle wouldn't have one and there is no new evidence to suggest otherwise?

Correct, that is my understanding.
But then to add confusion, the XM177E2 did receive a DAS stamp. Go figure.

Yeah but they entered service after they started marking the rifles in '67.

Maybe no one thought to use paint at Colt since they never had to stamp the DOD on weapons prior to this?
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