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Posted: 1/2/2017 5:28:14 PM EDT
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No, you're right, I just have apparently been out this way too long, and can't remember American units. Platoon of course, just not squad level, where the M249s went. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP - some of your screen shots look like pictures of the actual stock. Pretty amazing. M-60 was issued @ platoon level in the weapons squad, no? Or did they not have weapons squads in the 80's. No, you're right, I just have apparently been out this way too long, and can't remember American units. Platoon of course, just not squad level, where the M249s went. There were several different MTO&Es experimented with and suggested during the time period from 1961-1970s. As part of the OCRSP 11-man Rifle Squad, you had 2 balanced fire teams of 5 men, including an M60 and AG in each with no grenadiers. They thought they could supplant the M60 in place of the BAR from Korean-era MTO&E, not understanding the differences between the BAR and M60. Then came the ROAD 10-man Rifle Squad, with one 5 man Fire Team and one 4-Man, with M60s and AGs in each Fire Team, no grenadiers. The IRUS 11-man Squad came after that, with 2 balanced 5-man Teams consisting of Automatic Riflemen, Grenadiers, no more AGs. In reality, many units used this: There were normally four Squads to a Platoon. Three Rifle Squads and a Weapons Squad. The Weapons Squad consisted of Squad Leader, two Light Machine Gunners (M60), and two Grenadiers (M79). Machine Gunners and Grenadiers would normally be Specialists (E4). Each Machine Gunner would have an Assistant Machine Gunner (Private First Class E3) and an Ammo Barer (Private First Class E3). Weapons Squad at full strength is a total of 9 men. Vietnam Lt. Memories |
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Posted: 1/2/2017 5:30:33 PM EDT
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MTO&E for units in Germany in 1985 will mostly be Mechanized out of M113s, with a different MTO&E than Light units in Vietnam.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:17:11 AM EDT
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You part of the dev team for Escalation 1985 I assume?
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:10:20 AM EDT
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In early '88 with 3-34AR of the Big Red Weeny (1st Infantry Div Forward) we had A2s. As part of in-processing we were supposed to bring our issue rifle to zero. All of the support unit people still had A1's, combat arms A2's. We were close to the last active unit to have 1911's, I wonder who the last A1 user was in the active Army. Yup, as an Active Duty MP we still had M16A1's and /M60's issued at least until I ETS'd in 1992. 1989-91 in Europe we still carried M1911's. When I got to Benning in 91 I was issued the M9 |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 9:23:18 AM EDT
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Old A1 stuff was stiil in use 2005 OIF lll. Our battalion was issued some GM Hydros, even saw some Harrington & Richardsons. Navy Seabees!
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Posted: 1/9/2017 9:22:18 PM EDT
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Your missing the third pin Yes, it looks like a civilian semi-auto rifle, not an issued full-auto M16A1. That will stand out to anyone in the know. You need to add the sear pin above the selector. |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 11:23:58 PM EDT
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Yeah, I noticed that missing auto sear pin also. Kept looking to see if he added it. There's a nice example of the auto sear pin which you can see earlier in this thread here above the selector: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/703366_1985-Army-M16A1.html If you want authentic, you need to put the sear pin in your M16A1
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Posted: 1/17/2017 5:08:43 AM EDT
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You part of the dev team for Escalation 1985 I assume? Yes, that's my baby |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 5:14:16 AM EDT
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That looks amazing. 
US Army Bolt/carriers were parkerized, not chromed in the 1980's also, the rear sling swivle looks wonky on this pic. that looks like a newer CAV ARMS A1 copy it should look like this... -------------- some receiver forging marks were cleaned up more than others.... Thanks for the pictures and info, super useful! |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 5:14:49 AM EDT
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Your missing the third pin Indeed, I was. Thanks for the heads-up! |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 8:24:03 AM EDT
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Hey OP,
I have a real Colt 613 in my safe.. If you need dimensions let me know |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 8:56:51 AM EDT
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I was in from 84 to 88 but not in Germany.
In 84 we had M151A2 Mutt Jeeps M880 Trucks M16A1 rifles M1911A! Pistols M60's By the time I left in 88 we had Hummers M16A2 (brand new, not retrofits) M9's Still had M60's |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 11:52:05 AM EDT
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Great looking models OP, just a note the A1 didn't use the peel washer - it used a lock washer (which it looks like you modeled). I went to Army BCT in 83. Our M16A1s only had the black 'silent sling', same with our units M16A1s (I was Army Aviation not Infantry). I never saw the green sling till I got out and did some High Power competition. I'd suspect you'd see the green slings more in the 'trigger pullers' hands than those of us that supported them. Bolt carriers were black or gray, the chromed ones(leftovers from the 60s) and supposed to be restricted to non combat units and training centers only. There is a line about it somewhere in the old TM 9-1005-249-23&P under the bolt or bolt carrier inspection. As far as HenryKnox's list - the 26th ID was probably at the bottom for getting new stuff (we had UH-1s older than I was). Bohr_Adam is also correct about how common damage to the handguard vents was. IIRC the left was more prone to damage than the right. My retro build: That's great info and what a lovely rifle you have there. I'll pm you for a detail that's been nagging me :) |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 1:10:24 AM EDT
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I was in the Security Police in the AF from 1981 to 1994. We had Colt M-16's. The original that did not have a forward assist. We had the XM-148 as a grenade launcher. We didn't get anything newer till the early days of Gulf-1. USAF Security Police LE Specialist 1984 to 1988. I was stationed Ramstein Air Base 1985 to 1987. We had a plethora of small arms. M16 with & without M203 M60 Machinegun M15 S&W .38 SPL Revolver 870 Shotgun & my personal favorite GAU M16. The GAU was an M16 with varying barrell lengths and alluminum two position collapsable stock. Most of the M16 family of weapons looked well used especially the GAUs. The revolvers & shotguns looked ok. The finish on the revolver was not parkerized. It was blued. I might be able to find a picture around here of me carrying the GAU on post. We never had scopes and precious little night vision except the PVS 7 scope. They issued me with the new Kevlar Helmet in 1985 along with the camoflaged flack vest. What is the name of this game? I would be very interested in seeing it. I often wondered what would happen in World War III. There did not seem to be any grand plan past launching airplanes and evacuating the air base. We were probably set up for success for the first few minutes of a small arms fight as we all carried basic loads of ammo. 240 rounds rifle 18 rounds revolver 18 HE rounds for the M2O3 25 shells 00 Buck for the shot gun. I forgot how many rounds we carried for the M60. The only problem is that we would not be re-supplied and would need to make what we had last. I don't think we were expected to live much longer after the last plane left. |
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Posted: 1/24/2017 10:00:40 AM EDT
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USAF Security Police LE Specialist 1984 to 1988. I was stationed Ramstein Air Base 1985 to 1987. We had a plethora of small arms. M16 with & without M203 M60 Machinegun M15 S&W .38 SPL Revolver 870 Shotgun & my personal favorite GAU M16. The GAU was an M16 with varying barrell lengths and alluminum two position collapsable stock. Most of the M16 family of weapons looked well used especially the GAUs. The revolvers & shotguns looked ok. The finish on the revolver was not parkerized. It was blued. I might be able to find a picture around here of me carrying the GAU on post. We never had scopes and precious little night vision except the PVS 7 scope. They issued me with the new Kevlar Helmet in 1985 along with the camoflaged flack vest. What is the name of this game? I would be very interested in seeing it. I often wondered what would happen in World War III. There did not seem to be any grand plan past launching airplanes and evacuating the air base. We were probably set up for success for the first few minutes of a small arms fight as we all carried basic loads of ammo. 240 rounds rifle 18 rounds revolver 18 HE rounds for the M2O3 25 shells 00 Buck for the shot gun. I forgot how many rounds we carried for the M60. The only problem is that we would not be re-supplied and would need to make what we had last. I don't think we were expected to live much longer after the last plane left. Thanks for all that info, super interesting! The game is called Escalation 1985. It's a first person shooter with a focus on mechanized infantry. |
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Posted: 1/24/2017 10:27:25 AM EDT
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The game is called Escalation 1985. It's a first person shooter with a focus on mechanized infantry. The video I saw on YouTube made it look like an updated version of Operation Flashpoint 1985. Will it be released through Steam? |
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Posted: 1/24/2017 2:43:53 PM EDT
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Your Safety Selector model is incorrect. The "lever" portion is ever so slightly too long & should only extend into the edge of the safety, not into the center portion of the safety.
Oh, & welcome to the site. :) |
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Posted: 1/26/2017 9:15:35 AM EDT
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Your Safety Selector model is incorrect. The "lever" portion is ever so slightly too long & should only extend into the edge of the safety, not into the center portion of the safety. Oh, & welcome to the site. :) Thanks and thanks! 
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Posted: 1/26/2017 9:19:53 AM EDT
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The video I saw on YouTube made it look like an updated version of Operation Flashpoint 1985. Will it be released through Steam? Yes, our intent is to release it through Steam. There might even be a map that's similar to one of the maps in OF 
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