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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:01:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:05:17 PM EDT
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Very nice!
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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:09:25 PM EDT
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Beautiful.
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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:33:11 PM EDT
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Very nice!
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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:54:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2016 10:10:39 PM EDT
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That is awesome.
Great job and commitment |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 10:12:33 PM EDT
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I'm still trying to figure out if I should remove the rack numbers off the stock. Also I forgot the best way to polish the stock. Is it steel wool? Also what's the best way to take the paint off without damaging the stock? I just used CLP on a rag and a old sock to clean it up a bit. The C and older stocks seem to be made of a different material than the D and later ones.
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Posted: 9/21/2016 10:19:00 PM EDT
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I'm still trying to figure out if I should remove the rack numbers off the stock. Also I forgot the best way to polish the stock. Is it steel wool? Also what's the best way to take the paint off without damaging the stock? I just used CLP on a rag and a old sock to clean it up a bit. The C and older stocks seem to be made of a different material than the D and later ones. buffing wheel and polishing compound on the stock will shine it up. it won't get rid of deep scratches. acetone or non-chlorinated brake cleaner will take the paint off. nail polish remover will work too. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 10:24:21 PM EDT
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As in a dremel polishing wheel? Any special type of polishing compound? Also thanks for letting me know how to remove the rack numbers.
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Posted: 9/21/2016 10:30:29 PM EDT
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As in a dremel polishing wheel? Any special type of polishing compound? Also thanks for letting me know how to remove the rack numbers. orbital buffer like one you'd use on a car. there's a mother's buffing ball that works as well. mothers mag/aluminum polish is a little grittier and can polish out light scratches. it should give you a good polish without too much shine. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 10:32:32 PM EDT
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orbital buffer like one you'd use on a car. there's a mother's buffing ball that works as well. mothers mag/aluminum polish is a little grittier and can polish out light scratches. it should give you a good polish without too much shine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As in a dremel polishing wheel? Any special type of polishing compound? Also thanks for letting me know how to remove the rack numbers. orbital buffer like one you'd use on a car. there's a mother's buffing ball that works as well. mothers mag/aluminum polish is a little grittier and can polish out light scratches. it should give you a good polish without too much shine. Awesome I'll give it a try! |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 10:39:42 PM EDT
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Id use denatured alcohol for the paint and what ever you use to polish, do it BY HAND!
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Posted: 9/21/2016 11:15:11 PM EDT
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So I saw TheStingers outstanding XM16E1 clone with the cool C stock. Truth is I didn't know very early XM16E1s came with them. After finding out I had to have one for my clone. So here are the obligatory photos. <a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/user/tom051876/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/DE8081BC-1FD5-4CC2-A5F7-73C05FCE2B2D_zpsxxkrraf3.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/tom051876/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/DE8081BC-1FD5-4CC2-A5F7-73C05FCE2B2D_zpsxxkrraf3.jpg</a> <a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/user/tom051876/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/4549D793-9D00-42F3-B5C1-94A7F4EEB427_zpsbxtozwis.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/tom051876/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/4549D793-9D00-42F3-B5C1-94A7F4EEB427_zpsbxtozwis.jpg</a> <a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/user/tom051876/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/E0837904-B96D-4828-97B7-936E0CEBD7C5_zpsdyammbrw.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/tom051876/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/E0837904-B96D-4828-97B7-936E0CEBD7C5_zpsdyammbrw.jpg</a> <a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/user/tom051876/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/E0F983EF-F71A-4AE0-B25C-C6452BCAB746_zpsidbwazcu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/tom051876/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/E0F983EF-F71A-4AE0-B25C-C6452BCAB746_zpsidbwazcu.jpg</a> We need to shoot some soon. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:01:24 AM EDT
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I'm still trying to figure out if I should remove the rack numbers off the stock. Rack numbers? I think it looks great as is. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 9:56:20 AM EDT
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I've had very good luck restoring furniture with meguires reconditioning product. It has some light abrasive material in it but it appears to restore some of the natural oils into the material and when polished gives a high luster if that's what your going for. I like mine dark black but semi flat so I Dont polish to heavy. And thanks for the envy, sickness is contagious in this forum.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:24:11 PM EDT
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That looks awesome!
I'm searching for a nice stock for my build right now. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:37:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/22/2016 9:23:23 PM EDT
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beautiful
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Posted: 9/23/2016 8:48:36 AM EDT
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I've had very good luck restoring furniture with meguires reconditioning product. It has some light abrasive material in it but it appears to restore some of the natural oils into the material and when polished gives a high luster if that's what your going for. I like mine dark black but semi flat so I Dont polish to heavy. And thanks for the envy, sickness is contagious in this forum. Thanks for the advice. I have some work to do this weekend. I think it's going to yield positive results. You and Dan have some very cool and accurate looking XM16E1s. I have a thing for the E1 since I have been shooting the 16 in the army for 23 years. I even was issued a M16A1 at my first unit. I'm retiring in 3 months doing this for so long wears out your body. I swear this is what a NFL player must feel like after 10 years. Lol only problem is I don't have the multi million dollar paycheck to go with it. I went to qualify on the M16A2 yesterday. Yes some units still shoot the old musket. It's was not fun to say the least wearing 40 lbs of armor and helmet. A old CSM told me years ago you will know when it's time to hang it up. lol I will enjoy my retirement with these old retired rifles shooting from a bench in my shorts and t shirt much more. It was damn near 100 degrees yesterday and I feel like I got a good ass kicking today. Back, knees and feet are smoked. Funny how easy this was when I first started. Anyways enough of my ramblings. |
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Posted: 9/23/2016 3:32:42 PM EDT
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Welcome, this forum is fantastic with the collective knowledge....but they are also vicious heathens as well, always pushing me to go farther and buy more....and have one of every model. Sooo ya im broke but have been very fortunate to achieve what I have in a relativity short time. I'm still collecting and replacing parts as needed for builds. I have some parts I need here and there. One day, probably when homeless I'll find the holy 601 correct handguards/stock grail
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Posted: 9/23/2016 3:52:55 PM EDT
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Welcome, this forum is fantastic with the collective knowledge....but they are also vicious heathens as well, always pushing me to go farther and buy more....and have one of every model. Sooo ya im broke but have been very fortunate to achieve what I have in a relativity short time. I'm still collecting and replacing parts as needed for builds. I have some parts I need here and there. One day, probably when homeless I'll find the holy 601 correct handguards/stock grail https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14444781_180429009059980_201647347543745001_o.jpg That 601 looks outstanding. That's quite the collection there! |
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Posted: 9/23/2016 5:03:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI approve this message
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Posted: 9/23/2016 11:34:07 PM EDT
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Yup that looks ALOT better
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Posted: 9/23/2016 11:52:34 PM EDT
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FWIW found some sling loops WO the rubber for early builds.
https://www.apexgunparts.com/colt-m16-sling-swivel-and-loop-early-model.html |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 1:56:43 AM EDT
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Yup that looks ALOT better Thanks. I would like to know what date the rubber coated sling point came out. I bet it was around 63-64. |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 1:47:50 PM EDT
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SWEET !!
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Posted: 9/24/2016 2:13:36 PM EDT
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Thanks. I would like to know what date the rubber coated sling point came out. I bet it was around 63-64. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yup that looks ALOT better Thanks. I would like to know what date the rubber coated sling point came out. I bet it was around 63-64. Not sure about rear swivel specifically but according to TBR the front sling swivel was to be coated in rubber before the military would accept buying the M16 in contract 508 (pg 136) And the very first model 604 was presented to the Air Force in a ceremony at Colts March 30, 1964. (pg 149) So according to that at least front sling swivels would only be bare on models 601 and 602. |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 2:54:03 PM EDT
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Not sure about rear swivel specifically but according to TBR the front sling swivel was to be coated in rubber before the military would accept buying the M16 in contract 508 (pg 136) And the very first model 604 was presented to the Air Force in a ceremony at Colts March 30, 1964. (pg 149) So according to that at least front sling swivels would only be bare on models 601 and 602. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yup that looks ALOT better Thanks. I would like to know what date the rubber coated sling point came out. I bet it was around 63-64. Not sure about rear swivel specifically but according to TBR the front sling swivel was to be coated in rubber before the military would accept buying the M16 in contract 508 (pg 136) And the very first model 604 was presented to the Air Force in a ceremony at Colts March 30, 1964. (pg 149) So according to that at least front sling swivels would only be bare on models 601 and 602. I had a feeling that the front sling points were rubber coated. I think the earliest XM16E1s would have had C stocks and Cast FSBs with rubber coated front sling points. This was a transitional period so colt would use anything they had as long as it met the standards set forth in the TDP. More than likely the rubber just wore off. The forged FSB came out in late 1963 so a early one could have a cast or forged. |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 3:02:47 PM EDT
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I had a feeling that the front sling points were rubber coated. I think the earliest XM16E1s would have had C stocks and Cast FSBs with rubber coated front sling points. This was a transitional period so colt would use anything they had as long as it met the standards set forth in the TDP. More than likely the rubber just wore off. The forged FSB came out in late 1963 1964 so a early one could have a cast or forged. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yup that looks ALOT better Thanks. I would like to know what date the rubber coated sling point came out. I bet it was around 63-64. Not sure about rear swivel specifically but according to TBR the front sling swivel was to be coated in rubber before the military would accept buying the M16 in contract 508 (pg 136) And the very first model 604 was presented to the Air Force in a ceremony at Colts March 30, 1964. (pg 149) So according to that at least front sling swivels would only be bare on models 601 and 602. I had a feeling that the front sling points were rubber coated. I think the earliest XM16E1s would have had C stocks and Cast FSBs with rubber coated front sling points. This was a transitional period so colt would use anything they had as long as it met the standards set forth in the TDP. More than likely the rubber just wore off. The forged FSB came out in late 1963 1964 so a early one could have a cast or forged. |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 4:08:26 PM EDT
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do you have a copy of the document with the changes to the TDP. I know the report of the M16 rifle had a timeline.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9hAva_yxlzPcFBaZnZwMExXc28 |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 9:21:09 PM EDT
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Very Nice Rifle! I want to build one now..
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Posted: 9/24/2016 9:58:26 PM EDT
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That time spent with the buffer sure looks nice
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Posted: 9/24/2016 10:13:41 PM EDT
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Thanks. I would like to know what date the rubber coated sling point came out. I bet it was around 63-64. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yup that looks ALOT better Thanks. I would like to know what date the rubber coated sling point came out. I bet it was around 63-64. I have never seen anything definitive on this, trying to find the 9-1005-249-14 manual that is for replacement parts. Look at the date and see if it specifies rubber coated or just sling loop? |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 10:19:10 PM EDT
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Not sure about rear swivel specifically but according to TBR the front sling swivel was to be coated in rubber before the military would accept buying the M16 in contract 508 (pg 136) And the very first model 604 was presented to the Air Force in a ceremony at Colts March 30, 1964. (pg 149) So according to that at least front sling swivels would only be bare on models 601 and 602. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yup that looks ALOT better Thanks. I would like to know what date the rubber coated sling point came out. I bet it was around 63-64. Not sure about rear swivel specifically but according to TBR the front sling swivel was to be coated in rubber before the military would accept buying the M16 in contract 508 (pg 136) And the very first model 604 was presented to the Air Force in a ceremony at Colts March 30, 1964. (pg 149) So according to that at least front sling swivels would only be bare on models 601 and 602. I can attest only to the 2 original XMs I have seen and my barrel that was moth balled in a military ordinance facility, dust filled corner. My barrel sling is not coated, and the C stock isnt either. Could have been for a 602...who knows I used it on my XM |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 10:50:49 PM EDT
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I can attest only to the 2 original XMs I have seen and my barrel that was moth balled in a military ordinance facility, dust filled corner. My barrel sling is not coated, and the C stock isnt either. Could have been for a 602...who knows I used it on my XM Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yup that looks ALOT better Thanks. I would like to know what date the rubber coated sling point came out. I bet it was around 63-64. Not sure about rear swivel specifically but according to TBR the front sling swivel was to be coated in rubber before the military would accept buying the M16 in contract 508 (pg 136) And the very first model 604 was presented to the Air Force in a ceremony at Colts March 30, 1964. (pg 149) So according to that at least front sling swivels would only be bare on models 601 and 602. I can attest only to the 2 original XMs I have seen and my barrel that was moth balled in a military ordinance facility, dust filled corner. My barrel sling is not coated, and the C stock isnt either. Could have been for a 602...who knows I used it on my XM I just bought a reprint TM 9-1005-249-34 (1972) I will scan it up when I get it. I read in the archives it has a timeline in it. I'll scan and post it when I get it. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 12:03:35 AM EDT
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Nice
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Posted: 9/25/2016 1:45:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI just bought a reprint TM 9-1005-249-34 (1972) I will scan it up when I get it. I read in the archives it has a timeline in it. I'll scan and post it when I get it. shweet! thanks!
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