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Posted: 5/28/2016 9:27:22 PM EDT
I'm trying to figure out which one I want to build. At first, I thought I wanted a GAU, because NONE of my AR's are slick sided, and I figured that would be a neat departure.
But then I realize that the US Army used the M177E2, and for Army pride, I was thinking I should do the MX177. Help me out here. These are tough decisions. First world problems.   |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 9:30:50 PM EDT
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Xm177e1
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Posted: 5/28/2016 9:57:23 PM EDT
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Do the Army XM. I just finished a GAU-5 for much the same reason (I was USAF).
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Posted: 5/28/2016 9:59:55 PM EDT
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Two of each E1,E2 GAU-5 etc. I'm working on that exact plan right now!!
  Haha you can fire one in each hand lol Merica!
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Posted: 5/28/2016 10:00:34 PM EDT
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E2 if you're a MACV-SOG aficionado, if not then.. E1 or GAU. |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 10:11:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: E2 if you're a MACV-SOG aficionado, if not then.. E1 or GAU. Definitely doing the E2 for the 177 |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 11:23:32 PM EDT
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Slickside XM177?
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Posted: 5/29/2016 2:44:26 AM EDT
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Where do you guys get the vinyl acetate stock and tube set? Also are there any vendors for slab lowers other than nodak spud?
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Posted: 5/29/2016 8:30:14 AM EDT
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Where do you guys get the vinyl acetate stock and tube set? Also are there any vendors for slab lowers other than nodak spud? Unless you can source an original Colt vinyl acetate aluminum stock for a decent price, Essential Arms is the place to go for the stock body. Nodak Spud has the correct 2-position buffer tubes. You will need the old style castle nut. Nodak Spud used to have them on their website, but they are not there now. You could probably call them and ask about it. |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 8:53:51 AM EDT
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Don't bother asking re: the locking nut. I did, they don't.
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Posted: 5/29/2016 9:12:20 AM EDT
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Gau , because everyone needs a shining star in their collection
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Posted: 5/29/2016 10:23:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Slickside XM177? Then it wouldn't be an XM177.  I'm not doing a E1 because you cannot get a proper moderator, which you'd want on a 10" barrel to make sure you have reliable function. So it's going to be an E2 if that's the route I go. I'm pretty sure I need to do the XM177 because of being former Army.  |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 10:42:39 AM EDT
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Then it wouldn't be an XM177.
I'm not doing a E1 because you cannot get a proper moderator, which you'd want on a 10" barrel to make sure you have reliable function. So it's going to be an E2 if that's the route I go. I'm pretty sure I need to do the XM177 because of being former Army.
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Slickside XM177? Then it wouldn't be an XM177.
I'm not doing a E1 because you cannot get a proper moderator, which you'd want on a 10" barrel to make sure you have reliable function. So it's going to be an E2 if that's the route I go. I'm pretty sure I need to do the XM177 because of being former Army.
XM177 is slick side upper with 10" barrel XM177E1 is forward assist upper with 10" barrel XM177E2 is forward assist upper with 11.5" barrel Sure you can, depends on how much you want to $pend...
http://www.innovativeindustriesllc.com/products/xm177-moderator http://www.autoweapons.com/products/suppressors.html |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 11:02:41 AM EDT
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XM177 is slick side upper with 10" barrel XM177E1 is forward assist upper with 10" barrel XM177E2 is forward assist upper with 11.5" barrel Sure you can, depends on how much you want to $pend...
http://www.innovativeindustriesllc.com/products/xm177-moderator http://www.autoweapons.com/products/suppressors.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Slickside XM177? Then it wouldn't be an XM177.
I'm not doing a E1 because you cannot get a proper moderator, which you'd want on a 10" barrel to make sure you have reliable function. So it's going to be an E2 if that's the route I go. I'm pretty sure I need to do the XM177 because of being former Army.
XM177 is slick side upper with 10" barrel XM177E1 is forward assist upper with 10" barrel XM177E2 is forward assist upper with 11.5" barrel Sure you can, depends on how much you want to $pend...
http://www.innovativeindustriesllc.com/products/xm177-moderator http://www.autoweapons.com/products/suppressors.html Um you might want to talk to Hkiller his runs like a top. I don't think it's a real moderator but a brick. It's E1. Here is a pic of his. 
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Posted: 5/29/2016 11:51:49 AM EDT
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I did an XM177E2, as much as I like the XM177. To me it doesn't justify the extra $200.00 tax stamp to move the fake moderator two to three inches down.
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Posted: 5/29/2016 12:22:31 PM EDT
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Mine also "Runs like a top". Always looking for an opportunity to show my baby off!
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Posted: 5/29/2016 12:29:12 PM EDT
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Mine also "Runs like a top". Always looking for an opportunity to show my baby off!<a href="http://s97.photobucket.com/user/gordog_2006/media/XM177complete.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l216/gordog_2006/XM177complete.jpg</a> Oh man that's nice. And oh there is the unobtanium manual that Bernie has!! Real nice! |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 12:41:36 PM EDT
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Mine also "Runs like a top". Always looking for an opportunity to show my baby off!<a href="http://s97.photobucket.com/user/gordog_2006/media/XM177complete.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l216/gordog_2006/XM177complete.jpg</a> See i told you 610 you do have a brother! |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 12:22:23 AM EDT
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I gotta say, the one thing that kills me about this place is looking at all these ultra-cool SBR's!
As soon as I leave this commie state, the first thing I'm going to do is apply for a tax stamp! |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 1:23:18 AM EDT
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You mentioned the army used the xm177. I never hear about what the marines used. What did they use primarily? I'm guessing just xm16e1's and m16a1's?
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Posted: 5/30/2016 1:57:13 AM EDT
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Well, your Army pride would still be intact with a GAU-5. That's the gun they took to Son Tay.
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Posted: 5/30/2016 7:17:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, your Army pride would still be intact with a GAU-5. That's the gun they took to Son Tay. That's true, but it's not like the XM177 didn't do anything the entire conflict. The XM177 was used by SOG and therefore, used quite a bit and used for alot of secret missions. |
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Posted: 5/31/2016 6:57:18 PM EDT
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XM117..............I am thinking of either one at the moment, and as much as I like the GAU-5, I like the XM-177 a little more.............of course, I might change my mind again
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Posted: 5/31/2016 9:17:08 PM EDT
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I'm currently on the final stages of an XM177E2 build. The GAUs are definitely unique in the long history of the AR15/M16/M4 family.
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Posted: 5/31/2016 9:36:41 PM EDT
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I'm currently on the final stages of an XM177E2 build. The GAUs are definitely unique in the long history of the AR15/M16/M4 family. http://i.guancha.cn/news/2015/01/26/20150126083833610.jpg I wonder if i can sell that little guy a dust cover 
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Posted: 6/1/2016 1:21:32 AM EDT
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who has 11.5 barrels ? Colt preferably
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XM177 is slick side upper with 10" barrel XM177E1 is forward assist upper with 10" barrel XM177E2 is forward assist upper with 11.5" barrel Sure you can, depends on how much you want to $pend...
http://www.innovativeindustriesllc.com/products/xm177-moderator http://www.autoweapons.com/products/suppressors.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Slickside XM177? Then it wouldn't be an XM177.
I'm not doing a E1 because you cannot get a proper moderator, which you'd want on a 10" barrel to make sure you have reliable function. So it's going to be an E2 if that's the route I go. I'm pretty sure I need to do the XM177 because of being former Army.
XM177 is slick side upper with 10" barrel XM177E1 is forward assist upper with 10" barrel XM177E2 is forward assist upper with 11.5" barrel Sure you can, depends on how much you want to $pend...
http://www.innovativeindustriesllc.com/products/xm177-moderator http://www.autoweapons.com/products/suppressors.html |
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Posted: 6/1/2016 4:45:12 PM EDT
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XM177E2
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Posted: 6/1/2016 6:03:41 PM EDT
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GAU 5-A/A
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:06:24 PM EDT
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That's true, but it's not like the XM177 didn't do anything the entire conflict. The XM177 was used by SOG and therefore, used quite a bit and used for alot of secret missions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, your Army pride would still be intact with a GAU-5. That's the gun they took to Son Tay. That's true, but it's not like the XM177 didn't do anything the entire conflict. The XM177 was used by SOG and therefore, used quite a bit and used for alot of secret missions. This site is costing me a lot of money. First the 607 parts, and now two more, maybe three, if the Colt M16A1 is hard to come by or super expensive. I have been watching for normark singlepoint scopes on ebay. Who knows how long that will take. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:42:08 PM EDT
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I did an XM177E2, as much as I like the XM177. To me it doesn't justify the extra $200.00 tax stamp to move the fake moderator two to three inches down. <a href="http://s817.photobucket.com/user/VictorCastle/media/DSC_0004A_zpsffa3230c.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz95/VictorCastle/DSC_0004A_zpsffa3230c.jpg</a>
This is what I was thinking of doing with regards to a carbine except I was going to use a new C7 upper. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:45:02 PM EDT
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Where do you guys get the vinyl acetate stock and tube set? Also are there any vendors for slab lowers other than nodak spud? I know Brownells is selling some full fence NoDak Spud lowers and A1 uppers. You might want to call them about the slab sides as they may have some stuff they don't advertise. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:47:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe top two are exactly what I'll be doing this next year. |
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Posted: 6/3/2016 2:56:43 AM EDT
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XM177 is slick side upper with 10" barrel XM177E1 is forward assist upper with 10" barrel XM177E2 is forward assist upper with 11.5" barrel Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Slickside XM177? Then it wouldn't be an XM177.
I'm not doing a E1 because you cannot get a proper moderator, which you'd want on a 10" barrel to make sure you have reliable function. So it's going to be an E2 if that's the route I go. I'm pretty sure I need to do the XM177 because of being former Army.
XM177 is slick side upper with 10" barrel XM177E1 is forward assist upper with 10" barrel XM177E2 is forward assist upper with 11.5" barrel As far as I know the XM177 was only an air force carbine. The USAF didn't believe in the need for a forward assist so they had the slick side upper with the 10" barrel (XM177) and designated it as the GAU-5/A. The XM177E1 was the forward assist army version and was stamped COMMANDO. It was identical to the GAU-5/A except for the forward assist. The E2 was army issue and used the 11.5" bbl. From what I've read on this, many E1s were rebarrelled and armorers over stamped the 1 with a 2. Of course over time carbines were repaired and parts mixed up a bit so there's some confusion, especially with the USAF guns. They have a few different designations over time as parts were swapped out as policies changed over the years. Anyway, this is what I believe to be correct. If I'm wrong please advise. |
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Posted: 6/3/2016 9:17:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryAs far as I know the XM177 was only an air force carbine. The USAF didn't believe in the need for a forward assist so they had the slick side upper with the 10" barrel (XM177) and designated it as the GAU-5/A.
The XM177E1 was the forward assist army version and was stamped COMMANDO. It was identical to the GAU-5/A except for the forward assist. The E2 was army issue and used the 11.5" bbl. From what I've read on this, many E1s were rebarrelled and armorers over stamped the 1 with a 2. Of course over time carbines were repaired and parts mixed up a bit so there's some confusion, especially with the USAF guns. They have a few different designations over time as parts were swapped out as policies changed over the years. Anyway, this is what I believe to be correct. If I'm wrong please advise. Would that mean there were E2's around on partial fence lowers in significant numbers? |
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Posted: 6/3/2016 12:10:36 PM EDT
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XM177 (R610) and XM177E1 (R609) are the same except for the forward assist.
XM177E2 (R629) and GAU-5A (R630) are the same except for the forward assist. Except for the Son Tay raid, if there's no forward assist, it's USAF only. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:58:17 AM EDT
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I'm trying to figure out which one I want to build. At first, I thought I wanted a GAU, because NONE of my AR's are slick sided, and I figured that would be a neat departure. But then I realize that the US Army used the M177E2, and for Army pride, I was thinking I should do the MX177. Help me out here. These are tough decisions. First world problems.
The Air Force started assigning USAF personnel (forward Air Controllers) imbedded in Army units. So a GAU mixed in your collection would not be out of place. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 5:51:57 PM EDT
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I'm currently on the final stages of an XM177E2 build. The GAUs are definitely unique in the long history of the AR15/M16/M4 family. http://i.guancha.cn/news/2015/01/26/20150126083833610.jpg I wonder if i can sell that little guy a dust cover I'd be quick to trade him my Chicom MAK90 for that old thing.
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