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Posted: 5/22/2016 10:26:07 AM EDT
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Ithaca Frame Remington slide
Or go all the way and clone a Singer |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 10:30:24 AM EDT
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Remington Rand.
Does the slide have the hideous flare cut on the ejection port? Not that there is anything wrong with the cut, it's just out of place on a G.I. clone. |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 10:38:00 AM EDT
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I know a source for original rem. Slides
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Posted: 5/22/2016 10:58:43 AM EDT
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Ithaca Frame Remington slide Or go all the way and clone a Singer Singer! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 11:01:38 AM EDT
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Sounds like a great Project. SINGER ser# 501 |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 11:07:11 AM EDT
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Union Switch and Signal
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Posted: 5/22/2016 2:32:24 PM EDT
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I have to agree. If going with an 80% why not do one of the more unique 1911A1s?
I'd go either Singer or US&S. |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 3:27:38 PM EDT
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I have the bug to build a 1911 WW2/Vietnam clone. I picked up a forged 80% 1911 frame and a Sarco GI parts kit. If you had a to choose a 1911, what one would build? I will be doing the engravings on the frame and slide. I would have posted this in the 1911 but i trust in my retro AR 15 friends for the best info. thanks John No difference between a WWII, Vietnam or First Gulf War M1911A1. Last M1911A1s were purchased in 1945. There could have been some ANAD rebuild markings on the frame at later dates. CD |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 3:52:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2016 5:06:00 PM EDT
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Union Switch and Signal I would suggest Remington Rand or Ithaca. These were more common as were the Colts. The Union Switch & Signal and the Singer were produced in limited numbers. |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 6:48:31 PM EDT
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I say stay away from the US&S unless you want to do an arsenal rebuild as Du-lite is a pain to try and find somebody to do.
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Posted: 5/22/2016 7:38:03 PM EDT
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I think the slide is cut on the ejection port, so i could weld up or do a rebuild of some kind.
I should have the parts kit by the end of the week. |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 7:43:04 PM EDT
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This is going to be a fun and interesting project. I love 1911's.
How common were 1911's in Vietnam? How many soldiers would have been issued a sidearm? |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 8:08:27 PM EDT
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Very very common. Officers, machine gunners, medics, motarman, etc were issued 1911s.
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Posted: 5/22/2016 9:39:03 PM EDT
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Very very common. Officers, machine gunners, medics, motarman, etc were issued 1911s. Very interesting. Did a rifleman get issued one? Or was it something that if they wanted they had to acquire on their own? Now that I am thinking about it, what about in WWII? I know officers and tankers had them. I have a book about the 1911's I really need to read it. |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 10:20:46 PM EDT
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Very interesting. Did a rifleman get issued one? Or was it something that if they wanted they had to acquire on their own? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very very common. Officers, machine gunners, medics, motarman, etc were issued 1911s. Very interesting. Did a rifleman get issued one? Or was it something that if they wanted they had to acquire on their own? Oh hell no, not riflemen. But there were plenty of them floating around that they were easily available. The trick was, holding onto one. Most units frowned upon privates having a pistol and would confiscate on sight. Even for junior NCO's it was problematic, many places. Somewhat different story for aviation units, advisors, that sort of thing, of course. But you said, "rifleman". |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 10:24:17 PM EDT
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Oh hell no, not riflemen. But there were plenty of them floating around that they were easily available. The trick was, holding onto one. Most units frowned upon privates having a pistol and would confiscate on sight. Even for junior NCO's it was problematic, many places. Somewhat different story for aviation units, advisors, that sort of thing, of course. But you said, "rifleman". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very very common. Officers, machine gunners, medics, motarman, etc were issued 1911s. Very interesting. Did a rifleman get issued one? Or was it something that if they wanted they had to acquire on their own? Oh hell no, not riflemen. But there were plenty of them floating around that they were easily available. The trick was, holding onto one. Most units frowned upon privates having a pistol and would confiscate on sight. Even for junior NCO's it was problematic, many places. Somewhat different story for aviation units, advisors, that sort of thing, of course. But you said, "rifleman". Okay, I was just wondering if a rifleman would have had one in Vietnam. I'm guessing WWII would have been somewhat the same. How about Korea? |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 5:49:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryHow about Korea? Sorry, I have no clue about that one. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 8:41:55 AM EDT
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Very interesting. Did a rifleman get issued one? Or was it something that if they wanted they had to acquire on their own? Now that I am thinking about it, what about in WWII? I know officers and tankers had them. I have a book about the 1911's I really need to read it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very very common. Officers, machine gunners, medics, motarman, etc were issued 1911s. Very interesting. Did a rifleman get issued one? Or was it something that if they wanted they had to acquire on their own? Now that I am thinking about it, what about in WWII? I know officers and tankers had them. I have a book about the 1911's I really need to read it. In most all cases, NCOs (mostly Sgt. and above) and officers were the only ones to be issued 1911s. There were some exceptions as in the case of Tank crews and military police. In Vietnam, it was primarily SNCOs (SSgt and above) and officers. Some Sgts may have been issued them depending on their leadership position. During WWII, most everyone who was issued a 1911, was also issued a Thompson M1A1. Tankers were also issued M3 Grease Guns. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 1:12:36 PM EDT
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My dad was an M60 gunner (left the Army in '62) and was issued a 1911.
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Posted: 5/23/2016 9:53:32 PM EDT
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I've done a few Sarco 1911 builds into retros sans any engraving - even did one in 9mm.
I learned a lot about building and fittng a 1911. Its not that bad - have some quality files at the ready  . Get the plunger tube installation tool at Brownells and grip escutcheon tap
If you want an original look of a retro slide, Fusion makes a replica slide (non-lowered GI port) Sarco has decent slides.but they are lowered port - better for reliable ejection, but not authentic look. Or shop for a USGI slide. The Sarco slide is close to a GI look, and function fine. Fusion Retro 1911 Slide 
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Posted: 5/25/2016 8:53:02 PM EDT
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Cast Forged or Billet?
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:15:20 AM EDT
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I totally cheated to scratch the classing M1911A1 itch and just grabbed an Auto Ordnance repro. However, unlike myself, you have the skills and tools to build one yourself.
I don't think I know enough about M1911 variants to chime in, but I still want to see how this turns out! |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:02:42 PM EDT
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SINGER ser# 501 I like this one! They say that out of the 500 1911's originally manufactured by Singer, thousands of them still exist! 
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:54:54 PM EDT
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Need more pics in this thread.
Not USGI, but it's been mine for 25 years. 
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Posted: 5/26/2016 1:17:17 PM EDT
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For me it would be a mundane Remington Rand, since that's what I had in VN.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 1:41:15 PM EDT
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Oh hell no, not riflemen. But there were plenty of them floating around that they were easily available. The trick was, holding onto one. Most units frowned upon privates having a pistol and would confiscate on sight. Even for junior NCO's it was problematic, many places. Somewhat different story for aviation units, advisors, that sort of thing, of course. But you said, "rifleman". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very very common. Officers, machine gunners, medics, motarman, etc were issued 1911s. Very interesting. Did a rifleman get issued one? Or was it something that if they wanted they had to acquire on their own? Oh hell no, not riflemen. But there were plenty of them floating around that they were easily available. The trick was, holding onto one. Most units frowned upon privates having a pistol and would confiscate on sight. Even for junior NCO's it was problematic, many places. Somewhat different story for aviation units, advisors, that sort of thing, of course. But you said, "rifleman". There was one hand-me-down like that in my unit. I paid $25 for it when a guy left, then "sold" it to the next guy when I left. There were areas where we weren't supposed to take our rifles (  ), so I liked have something under my jungle jacket just in case.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 2:23:08 PM EDT
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Union Switch and Signal My vote as well. I was first issued a US&S and later an Ithica as an MP in Germany '73-'76. I always liked the Union Switch & Signal logo. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 2:49:00 PM EDT
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There was one hand-me-down like that in my unit. I paid $25 for it when a guy left, then "sold" it to the next guy when I left. There were areas where we weren't supposed to take our rifles ( ), so I liked have something under my jungle jacket just in case.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very very common. Officers, machine gunners, medics, motarman, etc were issued 1911s. Very interesting. Did a rifleman get issued one? Or was it something that if they wanted they had to acquire on their own? Oh hell no, not riflemen. But there were plenty of them floating around that they were easily available. The trick was, holding onto one. Most units frowned upon privates having a pistol and would confiscate on sight. Even for junior NCO's it was problematic, many places. Somewhat different story for aviation units, advisors, that sort of thing, of course. But you said, "rifleman". There was one hand-me-down like that in my unit. I paid $25 for it when a guy left, then "sold" it to the next guy when I left. There were areas where we weren't supposed to take our rifles ( ), so I liked have something under my jungle jacket just in case.Damn straight, "just in case". The going rate in my A.O., Strela, was $25 for any kind of 38 revolver and $50 for a 45 Auto. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:55:19 PM EDT
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Need more pics in this thread.
Not USGI, but it's been mine for 25 years. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/1911A12.jpg Had one almost just like her.. Had to sell as a broke assed PFC.. Still kick myself for that. Feed anything you put in her. Grouped pretty well at 25 yards with ball for such small sights.. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 4:50:36 PM EDT
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Well here is the scoop.
I got the parts kit and the slide ejection port was cut , i am not going to use it. I did manage to find a really nice Remington Rand slide for a fair price. I should have it early next week, From the pictures it's blued and appears to be a type 3 slide. I will post some pics when it shows up. All the part in the kit are black, they will be sand blasted and parkerized . If anyone has some good pics of a Remington Rand 1911's please pass them on. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 5:04:03 PM EDT
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Need more pics in this thread.
Not USGI, but it's been mine for 25 years. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/1911A12.jpg Here you go Mike. These are mine. 
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:40:15 PM EDT
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I've shown this one before in the Retro handguns thread. It's a hand me down from my FIL, who bought it for a whopping $17.00 delivered when I was still in diapers.
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Posted: 5/27/2016 1:45:16 PM EDT
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Damn straight, "just in case". The going rate in my A.O., Strela, was $25 for any kind of 38 revolver and $50 for a 45 Auto. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very very common. Officers, machine gunners, medics, motarman, etc were issued 1911s. Very interesting. Did a rifleman get issued one? Or was it something that if they wanted they had to acquire on their own? Oh hell no, not riflemen. But there were plenty of them floating around that they were easily available. The trick was, holding onto one. Most units frowned upon privates having a pistol and would confiscate on sight. Even for junior NCO's it was problematic, many places. Somewhat different story for aviation units, advisors, that sort of thing, of course. But you said, "rifleman". There was one hand-me-down like that in my unit. I paid $25 for it when a guy left, then "sold" it to the next guy when I left. There were areas where we weren't supposed to take our rifles ( ), so I liked have something under my jungle jacket just in case.Damn straight, "just in case". The going rate in my A.O., Strela, was $25 for any kind of 38 revolver and $50 for a 45 Auto. Where and when? I was at Phubai in northern I Corp, 68-69. |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 12:30:56 AM EDT
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Where and when? I was at Phubai in northern I Corp, 68-69. 72-73 at several places, last of which was Camp Holloway at Pleiku, whilst waiting for Kissinger to say uncle. Strange days, very crazy, G.I. |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 10:37:59 AM EDT
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I have a few
Let me know what you want to see and an email and I will help you out. Also, coolgunsite.com is a wealth of information. |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 10:48:07 AM EDT
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Anyone have sources for engraving a blank slide or 80% 1911 frame?
ETA Doah! google helped me out 1911 retro engraving |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 12:05:35 PM EDT
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Well damn it!
Now you got me wanting to do a MEUSOC clone with a properly engraved frame. 
I've been wanting to do one for a while but haven't found a suitable frame for a price I was willing to pay. |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 12:11:10 PM EDT
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Wish I could have "lost" mine in Afghanistan end of 14'
 Property book price is only $54.17 IIRC. All Remington-Rands still on USASOCs books. Course the one I had is the bottom, cocked and locked on a live round, just out of the holster for the group photo. Managed to carry on in Haiti in 95', Iraq in 03-08' and Astan 14'.
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Posted: 5/28/2016 1:39:44 PM EDT
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As an MP I carried a best to hell and back Remington Rand.
Then we transitioned over to the M-9s. The Berettas were tighter but I always felt weird not having a 1911. |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 8:48:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2016 8:51:59 PM EDT
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http://<a href="http://s890.photobucket.com/user/braceyourself/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160528_171117207.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac103/braceyourself/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160528_171117207.jpg</a> http://<a href="http://s890.photobucket.com/user/braceyourself/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160528_171052599.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac103/braceyourself/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160528_171052599.jpg</a> I got the slide today. Time to finish the frame and do the engravings. More pics to come. 
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Posted: 5/30/2016 11:30:54 PM EDT
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My Colt on a Foster Industries 1911 frame...
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Posted: 5/30/2016 11:46:30 PM EDT
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My Colt on a Foster Industries 1911 frame... http://www.fototime.com/40CE18C5E4890D7/large.jpg Sweet. Love the classic look. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:05:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:23:31 PM EDT
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Does that SN have any significance?
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:27:44 PM EDT
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Its my DOB.Month,year,day
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:57:02 PM EDT
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Lookin good John.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:06:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My Colt on a Foster Industries 1911 frame... http://www.fototime.com/40CE18C5E4890D7/large.jpg Props to Foster for getting the frontstrap correct....that is the FIRST thing everyone else screws up. Drives me nuts! |
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