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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:00:55 PM EDT
Hopefully the pics come across. I bought this from an estate that claims that it's all-original, and from the shape of it looks like it hasn't been fired much, if at all.
Appears to me to be original but I'm no expert on early Colts - anyone out there that knows enough about what to look for to authenticate an all-original 01? Thanks - enjoy.  </a>" />
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:02:55 PM EDT
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From the one picture you posted (of the flash suppressor), I can tell you that a later "improved" three prong is not correct for a 601.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:10:04 PM EDT
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from the pics provided i would guess most of the lower parts and furniture have been replaced.
furniture has most likely been replaced. original would have been green. the rubber coated sling swivel would indicate it's more than likely a later Type D pistol grip is later selector is not original. original would have been dimpled and not have the notch on the right side pivot pin is not original takedown pin looks darker than original and not dimpled charging handle is the later one and not the triangular flash hider is the later improved 3 prong and not the original "duckbill" bolt catch is a later one what does look original from the pics many circles mag button bolt carrier ejection port cover sight wheel what looks more than likely original but need better pics to confirm magazine upper receiver if the barrel is original w/ cast FSB, it shouldn't be too hard to do an original restoration. you have a lot of the hard to find parts like the lower receiver  .
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:10:23 PM EDT
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Should the mag drop push button have the earlier serrations? Also the selector switch, dimple? Front take down pin is later also, IIRC.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:13:18 PM EDT
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Should the mag drop push button have the earlier serrations? Also the selector switch, dimple? Front take down pin is later also, IIRC. only the really early ones had the mag button w/ horizontal serrations. most have the many circle variant mag button. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:14:36 PM EDT
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The furniture may have been replaced, or possibly painted since there appears to be green showing through in some spots through the black.
Not sure if that was commonly done back then. Looks like I might have my work cut out for me trying to locate some original lower receiver parts. I'm assuming that there's no good source for these - like Sarco, etc.? |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:18:00 PM EDT
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The furniture may have been replaced, or possibly painted since there appears to be green showing through in some spots through the black. Not sure if that was commonly done back then. Looks like I might have my work cut out for me trying to locate some original lower receiver parts. I'm assuming that there's no good source for these - like Sarco, etc.? where are you seeing the green under the black? there were furniture that green under the black but the pistol grip looks like a later mottled grip and the stock looks like a type D w/ some mottling showing. there is no commercial place to buy 601 parts but some folks here may have spares.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:22:25 PM EDT
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What are the markings on the barrel?
Although the flash hider is later, the barrel could be correct..... |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:25:51 PM EDT
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Domestically sold 601's had black paint over the green paint, so it could be a police dept gun.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:31:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:32:50 PM EDT
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I'm assuming that markings are under hand guards? I'll have to take a looksee..
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote Historythat's just mottling. the rubber coated sling swivel and the profile where it meets the receiver indicates it's a type D. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:34:14 PM EDT
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I'm assuming that markings are under hand guards? I'll have to take a looksee.. most markings are btw the front sight base legs and/or near the muzzle. is the front sight base cast? easiest way to tell is if it has a raised UP and arrow on top. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:45:58 PM EDT
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hmmm only marking that I can find on barrel is a tiny "s" on the right side under the front sight. No other markings that I can find.
handguards are black plastic all the way through. Can't explain the greenish markings but could be lighting, dunno. takedown pins are of the non-captured variety but don't match the rest of the finish so I agree that they're probably non-original.  " />
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:47:49 PM EDT
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yep it has a raised "up" and arrow on top of the front sight. meaning... what?
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Posted: 10/2/2015 4:59:17 PM EDT
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yep it has a raised "up" and arrow on top of the front sight. meaning... what? it means your barrel is original saving your restoration $1400 
the most common barrel markings were the M S but given the number of variations we've seen, i would say it's original, especially with the cast FSB 
did you get the IM i sent you? |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 5:08:13 PM EDT
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Another question - there's a roll pin on the very rear of the receiver, what is it's purpose? Is it locking the stock in place? It's not buggered up at all.
If anyone has or knows of anyone willing to part with original 601 pivot pins, takedown pins, dimpled selector, or charging handle, please send them my way : [email protected]. I'm going to leave the furniture as-is for now since it still looks "retro" to me and it's not like I can go down to Cabela's and order up a set. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 5:09:36 PM EDT
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Another question - there's a roll pin on the very rear of the receiver, what is it's purpose? Is it locking the stock in place? It's not buggered up at all. If anyone has or knows of anyone willing to part with original 601 pivot pins, takedown pins, dimpled selector, or charging handle, please send them my way : [email protected]. I'm going to leave the furniture as-is for now since it still looks "retro" to me and it's not like I can go down to Cabela's and order up a set. the roll pin intersects the threads in the buffer tube essentially pinning it. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 5:14:04 PM EDT
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Thanks, that 'plains it.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:14:14 PM EDT
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The fact that it has the original barrel is a big win, as is the rear sight. Let's check some other details...
Can you pull a handguard and show us the gas tube? And can you pull the BCG? If you're comfortable disassembling it, we can check the FP and bolt. Hopefully it still has the machined FP retaining pin. Does it still have the Edgewater buffer? If the roll pin is still in the receiver, chances are it's still the original receiver extension. A pic or two looking down at the hammer and trigger assembly might also help. It may take you a while to replace all the "incorrect" parts, but it should be a great rifle to restore! Congrats on joining the 01 club! ETA: By the way, at that SN range, you're looking for a Type B stock. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:19:39 PM EDT
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The front take down pin is a new one shoved in, not captive! Need to get a ball and detent one from nodak...
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Posted: 10/3/2015 11:24:45 AM EDT
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FYI
There is a Type B stock and 601 charging handle in the EE which would get you jumpstarted on restoring that beauty. (not my listing) |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 8:48:52 PM EDT
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hmmm only marking that I can find on barrel is a tiny "s" on the right side under the front sight. No other markings that I can find. handguards are black plastic all the way through. Can't explain the greenish markings but could be lighting, dunno. takedown pins are of the non-captured variety but don't match the rest of the finish so I agree that they're probably non-original. http://<a href=http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/dolphinshooter1/IMG_2378_zpsedli2le5.jpg</a>" /> I have a barrel I picked up about 20 or so years ago, and it has an "S" on it, and that's about all. It was in a pile that the seller said came out of Israel, which I took with a grain of salt. I'll have to dig it out, and give it another once over. |
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