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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:12:23 PM EDT
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OK kids and boys, I'm having serious thoughts on putting together a 607. Never built an AR before but I know it's not that tough. I will have the stock install done for me. My question(s) is/are, do I build from scratch? I like the Nodak receivers, but buying a rifle would save parts hunting time. If I do a "from scratch" build, theres a lot of parts to acquire. A bit overwhelming right now, just getting started and never having done this before. I should mention that repro parts, across the board, are no problem. Its a repro gun, so.... but I do want to build this as true to original as possible. And, I'll be doing the SBR route. Advise, dealers/vendor suggestions, medications? Any advise would be greatly appreciated at this point. PS Does more than one entity build the stocks? Feel free to email me direct at 37thguy at ameritech dot net as well. Thanks everyone Building an AR is easy, but building an authentic looking "true to original" 607/GX5857 is very difficult. Others will come and be more specific. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:23:28 PM EDT
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YOU my friend are DOOMED!
You are biting off a BIG chunk of RBRD disease! One of the most expensive and hard to come by variations. Are you SURE you want to go down this road? Don't you want a nice 603 from a kit? Maybe a XM177E2? OK! Take a picture of your wallet now while you still can. Don't say we didn't warn you. 
Here's a picture of the collective "trying to talk me out of" my GX-5857 build. 
And here is where I'm at with my build. 
STILL a long way to go! |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:50:40 PM EDT
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Congratulations on choosing a 607 as your virgin build, perhaps, the most difficult retro to find correct components for. I applaud you.
   
Make yourself a spread sheet on components needed, to keep track of things, and it also helps to prevent buying extra stuff. That extra stuff ends up turning into more builds, especially when you realize just how easy these things are to assemble. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 7:04:36 PM EDT
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Congratulations on choosing a 607 as your virgin build, perhaps, the most difficult retro to find correct components for. I applaud you.
Make yourself a spread sheet on components needed, to keep track of things, and it also helps to prevent buying extra stuff. That extra stuff ends up turning into more builds, especially when you realize just how easy these things are to assemble. Thanks, I enjoy a challenge, and we all know the hunt is half the fun! On another note, is this carbine legit, and if so, hows the price. From what I know (very little) it would be a great launch pad for the 607 build. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=503654376 |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 7:16:55 PM EDT
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OK, so I know I need patience, a good punch list, and LOTS o' money! Whats a lot of money? I own a FN SCAR17, Benelli M4, HK 416, M14 EBR, so I don't mind spending some money for a great finished project. I've spent $1k on just a stock more than once, so the going rate on these stocks isnt so bad.
My concern is, where do I start, Stock (who's), receivers, again who do I buy from. I need some suggestions on whos to buy, whos to stay away from. Are the retroheads here that make parts I should be buying, etc. Thanks again |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 7:45:08 PM EDT
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Thanks, I enjoy a challenge, and we all know the hunt is half the fun! On another note, is this carbine legit, and if so, hows the price. From what I know (very little) it would be a great launch pad for the 607 build. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=503654376 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Congratulations on choosing a 607 as your virgin build, perhaps, the most difficult retro to find correct components for. I applaud you.
Make yourself a spread sheet on components needed, to keep track of things, and it also helps to prevent buying extra stuff. That extra stuff ends up turning into more builds, especially when you realize just how easy these things are to assemble. Thanks, I enjoy a challenge, and we all know the hunt is half the fun! On another note, is this carbine legit, and if so, hows the price. From what I know (very little) it would be a great launch pad for the 607 build. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=503654376 That SP1 Carbine is about $1600 over priced IMO. It's not legit in the sense that the triangle handguards were put on there by a previous owner. All SP1 Carbines had the round handguards. No one makes the stocks commercially. There have been a few crafted by one or another retro brother throughout the years but there is no one source. The stock you asked about in your email on GB has been discussed here before. I don't recall what the consensus was. I don't think the innards were even close to original. IIRCC it was a airsoft stock that was modified to actually be used with a 5.56 rifle. Smart people with better rememberers may weigh in on that stock. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 7:59:24 PM EDT
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I didnt think the guards were legit. I Emailed him and he thinks hes got sumptin speshul!
 Wont budge on price.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 8:10:27 PM EDT
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On another note, is this carbine legit, and if so, hows the price. From what I know (very little) it would be a great launch pad for the 607 build. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=503654376 it looks like a factory SP1 carbine that had the 6 hole handguards replaced with the 607 style. overpriced for what it is. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 8:19:18 PM EDT
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Collect parts and build your own. There is no instant gratification with a 607 clone.
I don't know your background or mechanical ability, if you want a 99% correct clone (not a real auto lower ) get an 80% lower from NDS have the correct markings engraved and machine it yourself, or buy one of NoDak Spud's partial fence lowers and go from there.
Your three biggest hurdles will be a stock, rear handguard cap, and permission to legally have a SBR (not sure in which order) . A good replica stock is the hardest part to find, then a correct rear handguard cap. Get a two hundred dollar tax stamp from Uncle Sam via the BATF and you will be GTG on the 10" barrel.
ETA: chanting to myself: I don't need a 607, I don't need a 607.... I will just live vicariously through you guys.  Yeah, that's it.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 9:02:01 PM EDT
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it looks like a factory SP1 carbine that had the 6 hole handguards replaced with the 607 style. overpriced for what it is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On another note, is this carbine legit, and if so, hows the price. From what I know (very little) it would be a great launch pad for the 607 build. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=503654376 it looks like a factory SP1 carbine that had the 6 hole handguards replaced with the 607 style. overpriced for what it is. I agree. It is way over priced. Even with the original handguards, about $1600 - $1800 s more reasonable for an early 1980s SP1 Carbine. I have one that is an earlier serial number and I gave $1800 for it. They are valued higher, but that is different than market value. For this particular SP1 Carbine in question, I would not give anymore than $1200 - $1400 and that is if everything else is original. I would then have to find a set of original Colt 6-hole handguards for it. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 9:21:10 PM EDT
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Build your Retro whatever.
And if some so called Retro expert says That is not the correct part for that model. You politely respond Its a Retro AirForce Gun And welcome |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 10:54:22 AM EDT
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OK....couple routes you can go.
1) Early toolroom model. slabside lower, 602 upper, early stock with access hole in each side, probably a cast frt sight, large rear section short handguards. Would be engraved as one of the 607 models. Would have an early triangle charging handle. Early duckbill fh. 2) more commonly seen GX5857. partial fence lower. (NoDak......finished or one of their 80% lowers........would depend on how accurate you want to do the engraving.) 603 square forge upper, front sight base.......no drain hole, no forge line. Handguards, skinny, cut from front of triangle hg's, no drain hole. Barrel by John Thomas. Stock......get lucky enough to find one that was made by TSI, My65pan, Stoner25mkiv......or buy one that is currently being offered that I believe contains some AirSoft components. ( I can't comment one way or the other as to the durability/quality of those) Rear handguard caps that are of good quality/correct position are hard to come by. There is a stamped steel repop that isn't true to the originals that can be had for about 29 bucks. Gas tube.........early bend carbine........rarer than hen's teeth......John Thomas may also offer a repop of those. 3 prong flash hider or early non ported moderator. (believe they are 3.5 inch long, just going off memory) ............more to come as I think of it. Stoner25 |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 11:07:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:...or buy one that is currently being offered that I believe contains some AirSoft components. ( I can't comment one way or the other as to the durability/quality of those)... I actually have the better of the two airsoft 607's that I use for, well, airsoft. I've been tempted to post it for deconstruction, but if you need help identifying an airsoft 607 stock, I can certainly help. The markings and extension mechanism, and extension positions are different. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 11:43:20 AM EDT
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Thanks guys will keep it in mind
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:07:30 PM EDT
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Here is the exploded parts picture:
Some of the parts are indeed airsoft because to fabricate from scratch would be prohibiitve. The guys who actually used to make 607 stocks will no doubt back me up on that! 
I would be surprised if there will ever be a real company actually ever manufacturing them. Too much of a speciality item IMHO. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:21:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is the exploded parts picture: http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/503789000/503789080/pix937945701.jpg Some of the parts are indeed airsoft because to fabricate from scratch would be prohibiitve. The guys who actually used to make 607 stocks will no doubt back me up on that! I would be surprised if there will ever be a real company actually ever manufacturing them. Too much of a speciality item IMHO.  |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 5:43:40 PM EDT
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Ooooohhhh booooooy! Thats gunna be nice. Is there a wait list yet. I need to be on it. Please! Please! Please!
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Posted: 8/27/2015 10:49:01 PM EDT
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Anyone know who makes a good handguard ring for the shorty grips? I figure I better buy one while I can.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:16:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know who makes a good handguard ring for the shorty grips? I figure I better buy one while I can. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:45:49 AM EDT
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Is it any good?
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:03:02 AM EDT
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Is it any good? It works but it's not 100% accurate. the originals had a lip that was brazed onto the bottom. stoner has made a few that were more historically accurate. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 1:32:37 PM EDT
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I am working on a short run of stocks as we speak. The day job will determine the volume and speed. The finished product will hopefully be anodized in XM Gray! Yes they are a bit of work and each plate is a one of piece. Here is one trial version butt plate I made this morning. Thanks to member D-Zyner for the L&O engraving, and Stoner for his advice! I want to try and get these ones close to the originals as I can. I still have some tweaking to do. ( Yes I know this one is missing the bottom hole;) https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5d606b3127ccee9a263e8f90f00000030O02BcMnDlw2cA9vPhA/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00800689828020150827190553948.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is the exploded parts picture: Some of the parts are indeed airsoft because to fabricate from scratch would be prohibiitve. The guys who actually used to make 607 stocks will no doubt back me up on that!
I would be surprised if there will ever be a real company actually ever manufacturing them. Too much of a speciality item IMHO. https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5d606b3127ccee9a263e8f90f00000030O02BcMnDlw2cA9vPhA/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00800689828020150827190553948.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/ Where do I send pre-order payment?
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Posted: 8/29/2015 4:50:42 PM EDT
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any word on price yet?
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Posted: 8/30/2015 7:24:08 AM EDT
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YOU my friend are DOOMED!
You are biting off a BIG chunk of RBRD disease! One of the most expensive and hard to come by variations. Are you SURE you want to go down this road? Don't you want a nice 603 from a kit? Maybe a XM177E2? OK! Take a picture of your wallet now while you still can. Don't say we didn't warn you.
Here's a picture of the collective "trying to talk me out of" my GX-5857 build. <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/chug.gif.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/chug.gif</a> And here is where I'm at with my build. <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/20150815_121132.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/20150815_121132.jpg</a> <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/20150628_171653.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/20150628_171653.jpg</a> STILL a long way to go! Is that stock one of mine? |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 9:35:32 AM EDT
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Is that stock one of mine? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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YOU my friend are DOOMED!
You are biting off a BIG chunk of RBRD disease! One of the most expensive and hard to come by variations. Are you SURE you want to go down this road? Don't you want a nice 603 from a kit? Maybe a XM177E2? OK! Take a picture of your wallet now while you still can. Don't say we didn't warn you.
Here's a picture of the collective "trying to talk me out of" my GX-5857 build. <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/chug.gif.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/chug.gif</a> And here is where I'm at with my build. <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/20150815_121132.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/20150815_121132.jpg</a> <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/20150628_171653.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/20150628_171653.jpg</a> STILL a long way to go! Is that stock one of mine? One of mine, although your stocks were the impetus for me to make them. I don't turn out near enough to satisfy the crowd. You NEED to get back into making them. 
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Posted: 8/30/2015 10:04:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that stock one of mine? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: YOU my friend are DOOMED! You are biting off a BIG chunk of RBRD disease! One of the most expensive and hard to come by variations. Are you SURE you want to go down this road? Don't you want a nice 603 from a kit? Maybe a XM177E2? OK! Take a picture of your wallet now while you still can. Don't say we didn't warn you. Here's a picture of the collective "trying to talk me out of" my GX-5857 build. <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/chug.gif.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/chug.gif</a> And here is where I'm at with my build. <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/20150815_121132.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/20150815_121132.jpg</a> <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/20150628_171653.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/20150628_171653.jpg</a> STILL a long way to go! Is that stock one of mine? Matt All, As for price, amount I will produce, time line: I hope to have 50 full anodized stocks available by the end of October, or earlier. More will be based on time, and how quick they sell. Price will be set when all the bills are finished coming in and I know how much time I put into each one. They will be no more than $500 though. I will offer some in the EE, and some on GB. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 2:17:19 PM EDT
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Is that stock one of mine? The Stock Fairy made it and left it under my pillow!
I still need to box it up and mail it so he can put it under his pillow again and do the install!
I was on vacation this week so I have to go back to work tomorrow and get some rest and THEN maybe get it boxed up! |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 5:11:01 PM EDT
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In on the stock and to see these beautiful repros.
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Posted: 8/30/2015 11:19:21 PM EDT
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OK....couple routes you can go. 1) Early toolroom model. slabside lower, 602 upper, early stock with access hole in each side, probably a cast frt sight, large rear section short handguards. Would be engraved as one of the 607 models. Would have an early triangle charging handle. Early duckbill fh. 2) more commonly seen GX5857. partial fence lower. (NoDak......finished or one of their 80% lowers........would depend on how accurate you want to do the engraving.) 603 square forge upper, front sight base.......no drain hole, no forge line. Handguards, skinny, cut from front of triangle hg's, no drain hole. Barrel by John Thomas. Stock......get lucky enough to find one that was made by TSI, My65pan, Stoner25mkiv......or buy one that is currently being offered that I believe contains some AirSoft components. ( I can't comment one way or the other as to the durability/quality of those) Rear handguard caps that are of good quality/correct position are hard to come by. There is a stamped steel repop that isn't true to the originals that can be had for about 29 bucks. Gas tube.........early bend carbine........rarer than hen's teeth......John Thomas may also offer a repop of those. 3 prong flash hider or early non ported moderator. (believe they are 3.5 inch long, just going off memory) ............more to come as I think of it. Stoner25 I like #1 to see one look at thread 607 proto type |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 11:54:41 PM EDT
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I like #1 to see one look at thread 607 proto type Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OK....couple routes you can go. 1) Early toolroom model. slabside lower, 602 upper, early stock with access hole in each side, probably a cast frt sight, large rear section short handguards. Would be engraved as one of the 607 models. Would have an early triangle charging handle. Early duckbill fh. 2) more commonly seen GX5857. partial fence lower. (NoDak......finished or one of their 80% lowers........would depend on how accurate you want to do the engraving.) 603 square forge upper, front sight base.......no drain hole, no forge line. Handguards, skinny, cut from front of triangle hg's, no drain hole. Barrel by John Thomas. Stock......get lucky enough to find one that was made by TSI, My65pan, Stoner25mkiv......or buy one that is currently being offered that I believe contains some AirSoft components. ( I can't comment one way or the other as to the durability/quality of those) Rear handguard caps that are of good quality/correct position are hard to come by. There is a stamped steel repop that isn't true to the originals that can be had for about 29 bucks. Gas tube.........early bend carbine........rarer than hen's teeth......John Thomas may also offer a repop of those. 3 prong flash hider or early non ported moderator. (believe they are 3.5 inch long, just going off memory) ............more to come as I think of it. Stoner25 I like #1 to see one look at thread 607 proto type How many "early" 607's have you seen built? They're few and far between, witness to how difficult many of the parts are. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 12:19:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/31/2015 11:17:07 AM EDT
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Hello Pan, I think Stoner made that one. I have one of yours I bought off the EE a while back. It's what I used to pattern off of when I designed mine. It was still difficult to make even with yours in hand. You are truly talented sir, I read a bunch of your previous posts and appreciate the info you shared. Thank you! Matt All, As for price, amount I will produce, time line: I hope to have 50 full anodized stocks available by the end of October, or earlier. More will be based on time, and how quick they sell. Price will be set when all the bills are finished coming in and I know how much time I put into each one. They will be no more than $500 though. I will offer some in the EE, and some on GB. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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YOU my friend are DOOMED!
You are biting off a BIG chunk of RBRD disease! One of the most expensive and hard to come by variations. Are you SURE you want to go down this road? Don't you want a nice 603 from a kit? Maybe a XM177E2? OK! Take a picture of your wallet now while you still can. Don't say we didn't warn you.
Here's a picture of the collective "trying to talk me out of" my GX-5857 build. <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/chug.gif.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/chug.gif</a> And here is where I'm at with my build. <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/20150815_121132.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/20150815_121132.jpg</a> <a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Cal30M1/media/20150628_171653.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/20150628_171653.jpg</a> STILL a long way to go! Is that stock one of mine? Matt All, As for price, amount I will produce, time line: I hope to have 50 full anodized stocks available by the end of October, or earlier. More will be based on time, and how quick they sell. Price will be set when all the bills are finished coming in and I know how much time I put into each one. They will be no more than $500 though. I will offer some in the EE, and some on GB. Awesome! I'm glad somebody is taking up the torch! If I ever get more equipment I will get back into retro parts. The fist thing I need to do is finish my Gatling gun project. Keep up the good work guys! |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 8:42:13 PM EDT
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 Gatling Gun, that sounds fun! |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 12:29:39 AM EDT
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The fist thing I need to do is finish my Gatling gun project. Keep up the good work guys! Damn, that Gatling Gun sounds like a big project. My hat's off to you. I bet that will be a blast to shoot when it's complete. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:13:57 AM EDT
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Gatling Gun, that sounds fun!
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/541269_Really_retro_scale_replica.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/666806_Really_retro_scale_replica_II.html |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 1:09:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gatling Gun, that sounds fun! http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/541269_Really_retro_scale_replica.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/666806_Really_retro_scale_replica_II.html  All I can say is WOW!! |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 2:40:49 PM EDT
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Back on track about 607s.
I have two different 607 stocks lined up. Will buy both and compare. Still awaiting auction close on a few 5 digit AR15s before I start dropping money into the build. I'm in no hurry, it will be fun though. Its the hunt thats half the fun!!! Still looking for the larger hand guard ring. |
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Posted: 9/7/2015 10:19:30 AM EDT
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Looks like the stocks are coming along nicely!
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Posted: 9/14/2015 7:15:35 AM EDT
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It is looking good for some of us that thought we may never get a 607 built.
Several options have come up in the last few months. Thanks Ron |
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Posted: 9/15/2015 1:54:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is the exploded parts picture: http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/503789000/503789080/pix937945701.jpg Some of the parts are indeed airsoft because to fabricate from scratch would be prohibiitve. The guys who actually used to make 607 stocks will no doubt back me up on that! I would be surprised if there will ever be a real company actually ever manufacturing them. Too much of a speciality item IMHO. I have the ability to machine my own parts, but where could I get the above facsimile parts? It would be hard to machine a clone without having examples to measure and a working example to understand how it functions. |
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Posted: 9/15/2015 9:03:37 AM EDT
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I have the ability to machine my own parts, but where could I get the above facsimile parts? It would be hard to machine a clone without having examples to measure and a working example to understand how it functions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is the exploded parts picture: http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/503789000/503789080/pix937945701.jpg Some of the parts are indeed airsoft because to fabricate from scratch would be prohibiitve. The guys who actually used to make 607 stocks will no doubt back me up on that!
I would be surprised if there will ever be a real company actually ever manufacturing them. Too much of a speciality item IMHO. I have the ability to machine my own parts, but where could I get the above facsimile parts? It would be hard to machine a clone without having examples to measure and a working example to understand how it functions. Tech-Com, if you have the means/equipment to machine your own, but just need technical support, get in contact with me. I'll help you in any way I can. I've machined several sets of parts for 607 stocks and can give you any and all information you might need.......I think. |
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Posted: 10/21/2015 1:22:24 PM EDT
[#43]
OK guys its finally gunna happen. Just paid off the '69 SP1 so now I'm saving $$ for the 607 build. I have created a punch list an am familiar with "Most" of the parts I'll need.
The big hurdles have been passed, have one of livefornovembers stocks lined up and a rear handguard ring as well. WHEW! Not worried about the tax stamp, been there, done that. After I have the money I think I'll want to find upper and lower receivers, then work on a barrel. I'd like to do a partial fence, correctly stamped, with nobody's stamping on it (eg NDS) Is there ANYWHERE I can BUY a completed lower like this, finished or raw? Also how hard will it be to find an AR15/M16 with the FA? I'll ask about the barrel when I get closer to building that group. Thanks for everyones help. You guys are great. Counting on all of you for direction on this build! |
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Posted: 10/21/2015 10:44:28 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OK guys its finally gunna happen. Just paid off the '69 SP1 so now I'm saving $$ for the 607 build. I have created a punch list an am familiar with "Most" of the parts I'll need. The big hurdles have been passed, have one of livefornovembers stocks lined up and a rear handguard ring as well. WHEW! Not worried about the tax stamp, been there, done that. After I have the money I think I'll want to find upper and lower receivers, then work on a barrel. I'd like to do a partial fence, correctly stamped, with nobody's stamping on it (eg NDS) Is there ANYWHERE I can BUY a completed lower like this, finished or raw? Also how hard will it be to find an AR15/M16 with the FA? I'll ask about the barrel when I get closer to building that group. Thanks for everyones help. You guys are great. Counting on all of you for direction on this build! sorry but i got a kick out of "Big hurdles have been past"
 I originally thought I would be good with an SP1, and then the hurdle of a correct 601 build on a Nodak. Then it all fell apart... RBRD is vicious, I took a year of night classes, worked a summer in a machine shop for minimum wage, and financed a shop full of machines so I could make retro parts, 80%s etc! |
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Posted: 10/21/2015 10:48:08 PM EDT
[#45]
Well I are uh hi skule grajyu8!
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Posted: 10/22/2015 5:57:00 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
OK guys its finally gunna happen. Just paid off the '69 SP1 so now I'm saving $$ for the 607 build. I have created a punch list an am familiar with "Most" of the parts I'll need. The big hurdles have been passed, have one of livefornovembers stocks lined up and a rear handguard ring as well. a WHEW! Not worried about the tax stamp, been there, done that. After I have the money I think I'll want to find upper and lower receivers, then work on a barrel. I'd like to do a partial fence, correctly stamped, with nobody's stamping on it (eg NDS) Is there ANYWHERE I can BUY a completed lower like this, finished or raw? Also how hard will it be to find an AR15/M16 with the FA? I'll ask about the barrel when I get closer to building that group. Thanks for everyones help. You guys are great. Counting on all of you for direction on this build! Just depends on how "clone correct" you want to be....and if you want the lower you say you want that tells me you want a very correct build. No real reason to go to the expense of a very correct lower and then use parts that are incorrect......within reason. FA uppers show up in the EE and on GB.......most will be round forge with a forge code on the receiver, mostly CH code if memory serves me. IF you are wanting a correctly engraved lower..........without a manufacturers information on it............then you'll probably want to stick out the wait and find a square forged upper (won't have a forge code on it, which would be correct for a 607)........those are getting harder to find, but not impossible. That would be an upper that is correct for an xm16e1 also. There probably isn't anyplace that you'll find a completed lower that has no manufacturers information on it. You;ll have to get an 80% lower and finish it yourself.......as far as making it a functional firearm. Also might note that a forward assist upper would normally be on a GX-5857 marked lower, not a 607 marked lower. 607 marked lowers generally have a slickside upper. Have fun, be patient, and enjoy the hunt.........a 607 is a great build. |
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Posted: 10/22/2015 8:35:26 PM EDT
[#47]
OK, I took the plunge and just bought three 80% lowers. I mean, why not? I've already been bitten, I might as well just give in and turn to the dark side, why fight it, right?
I'll work on the 607 first, then a 603 and "finish?" with a 601. Now I just have to start accumulating parts....and more parts.......and still, more parts.  |
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Posted: 10/22/2015 11:13:21 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OK, I took the plunge and just bought three 80% lowers. I mean, why not? I've already been bitten, I might as well just give in and turn to the dark side, why fight it, right? I'll work on the 607 first, the a 603 and "finish?" with a 601. Now I just have to start accumulating parts....and more parts.......and still, more parts.
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Posted: 10/23/2015 8:58:27 AM EDT
[#49]
Man, this Retro forum is killin me!
Did any of the other M16 manufacturers make 607s or just Colt? |
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Posted: 10/27/2015 4:51:55 PM EDT
[#50]
This is gettin fun, as the hunt is on. Just got my 80%ers in the mail this morning. Intimidated looking at them, but it can be done! Found a couple A1 uppers, in the white, NOS and grabbed them up quick. Have a rear handguard ring on the way and livefornov's 607 stock in the wings. Bracemans gunna help me with my barrel build. So I got the big stuff covered...I think? Still trying to find some good charging handles, LPKs, FA sets, and well most all the smalls. Been informed that J&T are good for the forward sights.
Sure adds up quick. Will post pics of progress. |
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