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Posted: 4/7/2015 9:19:51 PM EDT
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Unfortunately they are Cerakoted rather than anodized.
At least someone is making them again. http://www.fulton-armory.com/upperreceivera1usginofanocd.aspx |
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Posted: 4/7/2015 9:26:51 PM EDT
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They look nice, does anyone have one?
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Posted: 4/7/2015 9:32:53 PM EDT
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it looks to be strait forge. hopefully they will offer them in the white ,for those wanting to do 601 or 602 conversions.
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Posted: 4/7/2015 10:04:57 PM EDT
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Oh, I didn't need to see that. I didn't want to destroy a 604 upper for my absurd Colt Concept gun... One of these will work nicely.
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Posted: 4/7/2015 11:13:05 PM EDT
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Cool!! Thanks!
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Posted: 4/7/2015 11:41:18 PM EDT
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Unfortunately they are Cerakoted rather than anodized. At least someone is making them again. http://www.fulton-armory.com/upperreceivera1usginofanocd.aspx Cerakote what a bummer |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 12:07:17 AM EDT
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what's with the stamp above the ejection port?
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Posted: 4/8/2015 12:26:48 AM EDT
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what's with the stamp above the ejection port? it's part of the forging. most remove it but it's left in place on some. colt even has some that weren't removed: 
mike from nds posted this a while back 
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Posted: 4/8/2015 6:12:21 AM EDT
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Unfortunately they are Cerakoted rather than anodized. At least someone is making them again. http://www.fulton-armory.com/upperreceivera1usginofanocd.aspx Cerakote what a bummer If they offered them "in the white" unfinished, I'd have 3 on the way already. Wes |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 6:35:26 AM EDT
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I'm not familiar with cerekote. I am in the market for a 604 upper though. NDS said possibly this summer taking orders again for 604 uppers. Would prefer a matching upper/lower combination. Think I'll hold out for now.
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Posted: 4/8/2015 9:18:18 AM EDT
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Unfortunately they are Cerakoted rather than anodized. At least someone is making them again. http://www.fulton-armory.com/upperreceivera1usginofanocd.aspx Why would anyone not anodize the upper in the process.. Doesn't this harden the surface???? |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 12:19:34 PM EDT
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We have the 604 upper receiver forgings in house, and now we need to get them into the CNC machining schedule.
It looks good that we will have available inventory this summer (2015). We will offer these gray anodized and 'in the white'. Final price has not yet been determined. Harlan NoDak Spud LLC |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 12:31:40 PM EDT
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Why would anyone not anodize the upper in the process.. Doesn't this harden the surface???? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unfortunately they are Cerakoted rather than anodized. At least someone is making them again. http://www.fulton-armory.com/upperreceivera1usginofanocd.aspx Why would anyone not anodize the upper in the process.. Doesn't this harden the surface???? ....What a looooonnng....strange trip it's been. Yes it hardens the surface. Lots of scope and gun makers are going cerakote because it's cheaper , easier, more colors etc. Cost effective, but I don't like it as a substitute for Ano. 
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Posted: 4/8/2015 12:43:14 PM EDT
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For my Retro brothers out there, I see Fulton Armory has A-1 Slick Side reproduction uppers list as ( in stock ) for $149.95 each, their part number FA-FU-167, Just wanted to help those in need. Kevin but there's no such thing as an A1 slickside 
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Posted: 4/8/2015 1:17:34 PM EDT
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For my Retro brothers out there, I see Fulton Armory has A-1 Slick Side reproduction uppers list as ( in stock ) for $149.95 each, their part number FA-FU-167, Just wanted to help those in need. Kevin but there's no such thing as an A1 slickside There is now! 
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Posted: 4/8/2015 1:37:11 PM EDT
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For my Retro brothers out there, I see Fulton Armory has A-1 Slick Side reproduction uppers list as ( in stock ) for $149.95 each, their part number FA-FU-167, Just wanted to help those in need. Kevin but there's no such thing as an A1 slickside There is now! Don't get me started on mislabeled C7s 
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Posted: 4/8/2015 2:01:01 PM EDT
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We have the 604 upper receiver forgings in house, and now we need to get them into the CNC machining schedule. It looks good that we will have available inventory this summer (2015). We will offer these gray anodized and 'in the white'. Final price has not yet been determined. Harlan NoDak Spud LLC Can we pre-order or get on the list for these? |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 2:17:42 PM EDT
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For my Retro brothers out there, I see Fulton Armory has A-1 Slick Side reproduction uppers list as ( in stock ) for $149.95 each, their part number FA-FU-167, Just wanted to help those in need. Kevin but there's no such thing as an A1 slickside That's always bugged me too. |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 4:50:21 PM EDT
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Can we pre-order or get on the list for these? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We have the 604 upper receiver forgings in house, and now we need to get them into the CNC machining schedule. It looks good that we will have available inventory this summer (2015). We will offer these gray anodized and 'in the white'. Final price has not yet been determined. Harlan NoDak Spud LLC Can we pre-order or get on the list for these? We are not yet taking pre-orders, but you can email us with your indication of interest, and we will send out update notifications as needed. Send the email to [email protected]. Thanks. Harlan NoDak Spud LLC |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 8:44:36 PM EDT
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For my Retro brothers out there, I see Fulton Armory has A-1 Slick Side reproduction uppers list as ( in stock ) for $149.95 each, their part number FA-FU-167, Just wanted to help those in need. Kevin but there's no such thing as an A1 slickside There is now! Don't get me started on mislabeled C7s Those are A2's with field sights, Colt's literature said so. 
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Posted: 4/8/2015 10:14:16 PM EDT
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Those are A2's with field sights, Colt's literature said so. Interesting, Id like to see a scan of that. |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 10:24:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/8/2015 10:43:19 PM EDT
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Those are A2's with field sights, Colt's literature said so. Interesting, Id like to see a scan of that. <a href="http://s983.photobucket.com/user/44Echo10/media/Gun%20Stuff/AR/29987_zps8b719de4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/44Echo10/Gun%20Stuff/AR/29987_zps8b719de4.jpg</a> <a href="http://s983.photobucket.com/user/44Echo10/media/Gun%20Stuff/AR/723-733b_zps85b80ac1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/44Echo10/Gun%20Stuff/AR/723-733b_zps85b80ac1.jpg</a> Wow, Ive seen those before but never really looked that close. Thanks! Now, Im hijacking the thread but... What was the difference between a 711 and 715? |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 11:06:48 PM EDT
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Those are A2's with field sights, Colt's literature said so. Interesting, Id like to see a scan of that. <a href="http://s983.photobucket.com/user/44Echo10/media/Gun%20Stuff/AR/29987_zps8b719de4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/44Echo10/Gun%20Stuff/AR/29987_zps8b719de4.jpg</a> <a href="http://s983.photobucket.com/user/44Echo10/media/Gun%20Stuff/AR/723-733b_zps85b80ac1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/44Echo10/Gun%20Stuff/AR/723-733b_zps85b80ac1.jpg</a> Wow, Ive seen those before but never really looked that close. Thanks! Now, Im hijacking the thread but... What was the difference between a 711 and 715? 715 had the A2/FS upper and a 1/7 A2 profile barrel. The 711 pictured has an A1 upper and 1/7 (1/12?) pencil barrel. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 8:33:16 PM EDT
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Thanks to the "enablers" on this forum, I took a chance and ordered the slick upper from Fulton. I am surprised with the finish on it concidering it is cerekote. I've always wanted a 604 model and now I will have one, black one however. The upper does match the color and texture of the black NDS 16A1 lower pretty closely. I will try to get pictures of the completed rifle up soon. Thanks to all here for the invaluable information and guidance. The "C" is raised if anyone inquires and apparently my iphone sees dust there better than my eye did.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 10:04:46 PM EDT
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interesting they are C marked. that's usually reserved for colt. maybe a 9mm overrun that they decided to ceracoat? i think manufacturers have made them remove forge codes in the past. you'll see ground off forge codes on early bushmasters that once had the FN forge code of F K.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 10:44:56 PM EDT
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Interesting theory. It's not a DMPS upper. They tend to smooth out the flash on the inside of the carry handle as far as I can remember, well at least on the A2 uppers anyway. I have it mounted on my NDS lower, it's a very tight fit. Over all I'm pretty pleased with it, even if it's not gray.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 11:07:44 PM EDT
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How hard would it be to have one stripped and anodized. Probably not very cost efficient when you could buy one from NoDak though...
I'm tempted to buy one from Fulton, don't know if I can wait til summer. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 11:17:31 PM EDT
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How hard would it be to have one stripped and anodized. Probably not very cost efficient when you could buy one from NoDak though... I'm tempted to buy one from Fulton, don't know if I can wait til summer. i think ceracoat is pretty tough, don't think you can chemically strip it meaning you'd have to blast it off and victor says that reanodizing something that's been blasted doesn't yield great results. he prefers to chemically strip old anodizing so you'd probably end up spending time and money and it still not turn out great. |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 7:31:25 AM EDT
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Thanks to the "enablers" on this forum, I took a chance and ordered the slick upper from Fulton. I am surprised with the finish on it concidering it is cerekote. I've always wanted a 604 model and now I will have one, black one however. The upper does match the color and texture of the black NDS 16A1 lower pretty closely. I will try to get pictures of the completed rifle up soon. Thanks to all here for the invaluable information and guidance. The "C" is raised if anyone inquires and apparently my iphone sees dust there better than my eye did. http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q583/bpb165/image4_zpsil8mqokm.jpg http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q583/bpb165/image3_zpsf9dd6ejk.jpg http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q583/bpb165/image2_zpsheflfroz.jpg http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q583/bpb165/image1_zpsg5epfbsj.jpg Looks great. I'd pull trigger on one but I need gray for NDS XM16E1 lower it will go on. Looking forward to pic's on your black NDS lower for comparison. Also let us know of any parts fitment issues. |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 9:39:52 AM EDT
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Wow it looks awesome
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Posted: 4/15/2015 10:17:38 AM EDT
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i think ceracoat is pretty tough, don't think you can chemically strip it meaning you'd have to blast it off and victor says that reanodizing something that's been blasted doesn't yield great results. he prefers to chemically strip old anodizing so you'd probably end up spending time and money and it still not turn out great. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How hard would it be to have one stripped and anodized. Probably not very cost efficient when you could buy one from NoDak though... I'm tempted to buy one from Fulton, don't know if I can wait til summer. i think ceracoat is pretty tough, don't think you can chemically strip it meaning you'd have to blast it off and victor says that reanodizing something that's been blasted doesn't yield great results. he prefers to chemically strip old anodizing so you'd probably end up spending time and money and it still not turn out great. I needed an upper stripped and re-anodized a couple months ago, Victor told me as long as it isn't Cerakoted he can do it. Now I see why. |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 10:51:47 AM EDT
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i think ceracoat is pretty tough, don't think you can chemically strip it meaning you'd have to blast it off and victor says that reanodizing something that's been blasted doesn't yield great results. he prefers to chemically strip old anodizing so you'd probably end up spending time and money and it still not turn out great. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How hard would it be to have one stripped and anodized. Probably not very cost efficient when you could buy one from NoDak though... I'm tempted to buy one from Fulton, don't know if I can wait til summer. i think ceracoat is pretty tough, don't think you can chemically strip it meaning you'd have to blast it off and victor says that reanodizing something that's been blasted doesn't yield great results. he prefers to chemically strip old anodizing so you'd probably end up spending time and money and it still not turn out great. Thank you for the info. I still might go ahead and grab one of these to build something with and just leave the ceracoat. |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 10:55:21 AM EDT
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Pics of the upper as requested. It decided to start raining when I took it outside for better pics. I did have to round file the takedown hole on the upper to get it to fit. I'm finding that I have to do that now and again on certain brands of upper/lower combinations. Not a big deal, they do end up fitting snugly. I still need to find a different port door and replace the A2 one, but for now I'm okay with it. HKILLER, does the lower look familier?
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Posted: 4/15/2015 11:46:13 AM EDT
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Looks great! Thanks for posting the pictures.
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Posted: 4/15/2015 12:12:48 PM EDT
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The "C" and "Splintered A" are standard on these forgings.
This is a house owned tool, and Anchor Harvey has just not bothered to change the engraving program for the die when it gets reworked. As you know we remove the forge codes and stamp ours with a letter "N" at the front of the ejection port area. ETA: it also looks like they didn't cut the slot for the CH latch properly. |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 2:25:48 PM EDT
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The "C" and "Splintered A" are standard on these forgings. This is a house owned tool, and Anchor Harvey has just not bothered to change the engraving program for the die when it gets reworked. As you know we remove the forge codes and stamp ours with a letter "N" at the front of the ejection port area. ETA: it also looks like they didn't cut the slot for the CH latch properly. cool. i'm surprised colt hasn't told them to remove it if it's not for them. |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 5:57:53 PM EDT
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ETA: it also looks like they didn't cut the slot for the CH latch properly. The devil is in the details! What's the right slot cut look like? Wes |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 6:49:25 PM EDT
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The thing is sure gorgeous. Steep on price, and I dislike the fact that they're not anodized, but gorgeous!
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Posted: 4/15/2015 7:26:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2015 8:58:34 PM EDT
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Interesting photo. Thanks.
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Posted: 4/25/2015 6:27:37 AM EDT
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I bought 2 of these uppers and I didn't catch that the charging handle latch slot wasn't completely milled out... I guess I'll see if ADCO can milled them out to original spec. Still happy that I picked them up since I now have a couple of slick slide uppers in my parts box!!
I'm OK with the cerakote finish... Anybody knows the name for the cerakote finish that will pretty much match a late 60s XM16E1 and a late 70s M16A1 Colt/USGI contract rifles? If they don't offer an exact or close color match, what would their best stock color for Colt/USGI rifles... That leans to the darker shade that isn't the current black M4/M16A4finish? |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 10:34:59 PM EDT
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So if one wanted to get one of these for a GAU-5ish build but wasn't a purist when it comes to color this would be adequate?
Also, regarding the "improperly" cut CH catch slot - the only issue is due to aesthetics compared to the originals not function correct? |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 10:44:36 PM EDT
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Also, regarding the "improperly" cut CH catch slot - the only issue is due to aesthetics compared to the originals not function correct? No effect on function. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:05:38 AM EDT
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ETA: it also looks like they didn't cut the slot for the CH latch properly. Quality makes it a Colt Nodak. |
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