M16A1 Barrel - Engraving?

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Posted: 12/23/2014 9:41:59 AM EDT

Hello Retro fans. We have the opportunity to produce some M16A1 barrels with front sight bases installed, and plan on moving forward with the project.

Two quick questions.
We can engrave, but can only do laser engraving. Should we mark the barrels in front of the front sight base "MP CHROME BORE", or leave it blank? We can only laser at the moment.
Second question, M4 feed ramps or rifle feed ramps?

For the curious, here is what we are looking at for specifications:

20" A1 Profile

.625" at the gas block

Pinned front sight base

Includes barrel nut & hand guard cap

1-12 Twist

Magnetic Particle Inspected

Proof Fired

Chrome bore & chamber

1/2-28 muzzle threads

Chambered in 5.56x45

Any input is appreciated!

Posted: 12/23/2014 9:50:19 AM EDT

[#1]

My opinion is put the markings under the hand guard if they won't look authentic.

Thanks for the retro love. We need more barrel choices for our builds.

Posted: 12/23/2014 9:55:53 AM EDT

[#2]

I agree, If these are to be marketed towards the retro or collector community, then placing the markings "out of sight" would be preferable to me as opposed to visible markings that are not authentic. I am glad to here you are making such a barrel.

Posted: 12/23/2014 10:37:20 AM EDT

[#3]

Thank you both for the quick responses!

What are your thoughts on the barrel extension?

Posted: 12/23/2014 10:50:46 AM EDT

[#4]

If you can't offer both, I would prefer the rifle extension.

Someone, somewhere, will want an M4 extension - but not likely in this bunch.

Thanks for thinking of the retro crowd!

Posted: 12/23/2014 11:24:06 AM EDT

[#5]

This is great, there can't be too many pencil barrel options. Rifle feed ramps and I'm indifferent on the markings, I'd buy one regardless. I'm a frequent Brownells customer already so, this is good to hear.

Posted: 12/23/2014 11:25:41 AM EDT

[#6]

Rifle style barrel extension if possible and markings under the handguards

Posted: 12/23/2014 11:29:17 AM EDT

[#7]

Rifle ext. and hidden laser markings +1

Posted: 12/23/2014 12:17:01 PM EDT

[#8]

Fake markings are worse than no markings.

I would like to see these clearly ID'd as to make and type, though. How about "Brownells, 5.56x45, 1/12" under the handguards?

Posted: 12/23/2014 1:00:14 PM EDT

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+1 on the rifle feed ramps
+1 on laser markings being under the hand guards

I would mark them as such: BRN - C MP 5.56 NATO 1/12

ETA: & maybe put the markings on the bottom/underside of the barrel under the hand guards so they cannot be seen through upper vent holes. Thanks

Posted: 12/23/2014 1:05:34 PM EDT

[#10]

RIFLE ext .. +2

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Posted: 12/23/2014 1:07:26 PM EDT

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This!

thanks for making the barrels.
Ron

Posted: 12/23/2014 1:11:47 PM EDT

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Thanks everyone!

We'll go with the rifle extension and mark the barrel under the hand guards.

We'll likely go with "B MP CHROME BORE 5.56 1-12".

Posted: 12/23/2014 1:12:57 PM EDT

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+1

Posted: 12/23/2014 1:17:11 PM EDT

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Rifle extension and the markings under the handgaurds, it's the only way to go. Also you have to compete with Green Mountain's, McKay's, and AR15Sport.com's pricing. All of which off A1 profile barrels now... Good Luck, Can't wait to see the finished product, I already spend too much money there, it's pretty bad when you know your Brownells account number by heart but can't remember your cell phone number.

Posted: 12/23/2014 1:17:46 PM EDT

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We'll likely go with "B MP CHROME BORE 5.56 1-12".

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Perfect!

So... should we expect these to become available anytime soon?

Posted: 12/23/2014 1:27:29 PM EDT

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Perfect!

So... should we expect these to become available anytime soon?

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We'll likely go with "B MP CHROME BORE 5.56 1-12".

Perfect!

So... should we expect these to become available anytime soon?

We're hoping to have a sample at SHOT, with product to ship in February.

As for pricing, we're looking at ~$200 retail.

Thanks again!

Posted: 12/23/2014 1:44:22 PM EDT

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+1 on the rifle feed ramps
+1 on laser markings being under the hand guards

I would mark them as such: BRN - C MP 5.56 NATO 1/12

ETA: & maybe put the markings on the bottom/underside of the barrel under the hand guards so they cannot be seen through upper vent holes. Thanks

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+1. Easy to ID down the road, but out of sight of vent holes.

Posted: 12/23/2014 6:03:09 PM EDT

[#18]

i think for some factory markings under handgaurds and a simple letter M sideways to replicate a 601 barrel,the holy grail of barrels

Posted: 12/23/2014 6:06:12 PM EDT

[#19]

This is outstanding !

Posted: 12/23/2014 6:10:46 PM EDT

[#20]

I can't believe someone is actually going to make a correct retro barrel.

Thanks Brownells.

Also, some pencil carbine barrels that are 14.7" would be great too.

Posted: 12/23/2014 7:27:41 PM EDT

[#21]

Rifle extension, definitely not M4 feedramps.

You can put the info in plain sight in front of the sight block, it wont be a deal breaker.

Hope it works out. I haven't order anything from you in a few months... That will have to change.

Send out an email when they are ready.

Posted: 12/23/2014 7:42:15 PM EDT

[#22]

This is great news!!! I think I'll just hold off on ordering my barrel, and wait till you guys start shipping in February.

Simply Awesome

Posted: 12/23/2014 7:59:55 PM EDT

[#23]

Producing a quality ready to install Retro barrel is commendable,

However, I'll stray from the heard by saying some of your competitors already market 1-12 chrome bore barrels.

To increase the sales potential to a broader spectrum of customers while appeasing the Retro crowd seeking a correct profile, I would suggest a 1-7 or 1-8 twist in conjunction with the previously mentioned specs.

NO ONE is doing that, YMMV

Wpns Man

Posted: 12/23/2014 8:06:50 PM EDT

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We'll go with the rifle extension and mark the barrel under the hand guards.

We'll likely go with "B MP CHROME BORE 5.56 1-12".

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+1 and Thank You!

Posted: 12/23/2014 8:24:16 PM EDT

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Fake markings are worse than no markings.

I would like to see these clearly ID'd as to make and type, though. How about "Brownells, 5.56x45, 1/12" under the handguards?

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I whole heartily agree with this. Yesterday at work I stopped in our tool crib trying to locate some 1/8" letter/number stamping tools. I want to stamp my newly built retro firearm barrels with 12 in case somewhere down the line the next user will know it's barrel twist. The barrel is unmarked in it's present state.

And thank you Brownells!

Posted: 12/23/2014 8:37:25 PM EDT

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Also, some pencil carbine barrels that are 14.7" would be great too

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THIS ^^^

Posted: 12/23/2014 8:43:04 PM EDT

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Also, some pencil carbine barrels that are 14.7" would be great too.

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Drool!!!

Posted: 12/23/2014 9:04:25 PM EDT

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Also, some pencil carbine barrels that are 14.7" would be great too

THIS ^^^

THAT! ^^^

Posted: 12/23/2014 9:14:27 PM EDT

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Producing a quality ready to install Retro barrel is commendable,

However, I'll stray from the heard by saying some of your competitors already market 1-12 chrome bore barrels.

To increase the sales potential to a broader spectrum of customers while appeasing the Retro crowd seeking a correct profile, I would suggest a 1-7 or 1-8 twist in conjunction with the previously mentioned specs.

NO ONE is doing that, YMMV

Wpns Man

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I have to agree here.

Posted: 12/23/2014 9:43:25 PM EDT

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We also need a good manufacturer for a quality mil-spec reproduction of the Colt Fiberite carbine buttstock.

Posted: 12/23/2014 9:52:23 PM EDT

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And 6 hole handguards and 604 uppers and....

Posted: 12/23/2014 9:57:47 PM EDT

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Thanks everyone!

We'll go with the rifle extension and mark the barrel under the hand guards.

We'll likely go with "B MP CHROME BORE 5.56 1-12".

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Perfect. This is what we've been asking for for some time. Good work!

Posted: 12/23/2014 9:59:12 PM EDT

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Producing a quality ready to install Retro barrel is commendable,

However, I'll stray from the heard by saying some of your competitors already market 1-12 chrome bore barrels.

To increase the sales potential to a broader spectrum of customers while appeasing the Retro crowd seeking a correct profile, I would suggest a 1-7 or 1-8 twist in conjunction with the previously mentioned specs.

NO ONE is doing that, YMMV

Wpns Man

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Yes, I would like to see a 1:7 option too! That would be full of win!

Posted: 12/24/2014 1:16:16 AM EDT

[#34]

We could offer a correct roll stamp.

How much? it depends on how many, it could be as low as $2-3.00 ea.

Posted: 12/24/2014 2:02:22 AM EDT

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Posted: 12/24/2014 2:21:45 AM EDT

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Producing a quality ready to install Retro barrel is commendable,

However, I'll stray from the heard by saying some of your competitors already market 1-12 chrome bore barrels.

To increase the sales potential to a broader spectrum of customers while appeasing the Retro crowd seeking a correct profile, I would suggest a 1-7 or 1-8 twist in conjunction with the previously mentioned specs.

NO ONE is doing that, YMMV

Wpns Man

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+1

Posted: 12/24/2014 9:07:29 AM EDT

[#37]

Thanks for the heads up on the 1-7 interest, I didn't realize it was there for the 20" A1. Once we get the A1 1-12 off the ground, the 1-7 will be next on our radar.

Marty, we'll get in touch with you on the roll stamp.

Thanks again!

Posted: 12/24/2014 9:53:47 AM EDT

[#38]

I didn't see it mentioned, but will these be parkerized in the early gray color as opposed to the modern black color?

Posted: 12/24/2014 10:00:26 AM EDT

[#39]

another vote for 1/7. The deal-maker is that it comes with a front sight already installed. Nobody does 1/7 with a front sight ready to go.

Posted: 12/24/2014 10:07:10 AM EDT

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I would like to build an A1 in 1/7 for sure. I was planning on just using an A2 barrel, but...

Posted: 12/24/2014 3:48:27 PM EDT

[#41]

Can you maybe bring back Bakelite & A1 ejection port doors as well?

Posted: 12/24/2014 4:26:04 PM EDT

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There some real decent repro ports doors out there now!

Posted: 12/24/2014 5:51:06 PM EDT

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Can you maybe bring back Bakelite & A1 ejection port doors as well?

There some real decent repro ports doors out there now!

Got a link?

Posted: 12/24/2014 5:57:32 PM EDT

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Thanks everyone!

We'll go with the rifle extension and mark the barrel under the hand guards.

We'll likely go with "B MP CHROME BORE 5.56 1-12".

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a lot of people will take these marking as the barrel being made by Bushmaster

Posted: 12/24/2014 6:48:12 PM EDT

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Can you maybe bring back Bakelite & A1 ejection port doors as well?

There some real decent repro ports doors out there now!

Got a link?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111295834174

Posted: 12/24/2014 6:57:38 PM EDT

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Can you maybe bring back Bakelite & A1 ejection port doors as well?

There some real decent repro ports doors out there now!

Got a link?

<a href="http://s983.photobucket.com/user/44Echo10/media/miscellaneous/wallpaper_20090503095226_9820496582_zps26e5aedc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/44Echo10/miscellaneous/wallpaper_20090503095226_9820496582_zps26e5aedc.jpg</a>

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111295834174

Brown Dog Industries?...Totally new info to me. Thanks.

Posted: 12/24/2014 9:26:50 PM EDT

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Thanks for showing interest in making retro barrels. I probably wouldn't buy one if it were 1-12 twist, I would be even less inclined to do so if I knew that a 1-9, 1-8, or 1-7 barrel was coming later. It might be worth taking a poll which twist rates people are interested in. (I think everyone is in agreement with all the other features, gray parkerizing would be preferred)

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Thanks for the heads up on the 1-7 interest, I didn't realize it was there for the 20" A1. Once we get the A1 1-12 off the ground, the 1-7 will be next on our radar.

Marty, we'll get in touch with you on the roll stamp.

Thanks again!

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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:18:01 PM EDT

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I will take a couple 1/7 also.

Posted: 12/25/2014 6:38:55 AM EDT

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I already have two barrels waiting for something to attach them to.

One of these in the 1/12 twist will make three.

That said, Colt grey parkerizing and maybe a grey slip ring would be perfect for rebarrelling my 604 clone.

Posted: 12/28/2014 1:41:34 PM EDT

[#50]

I want to try one of the barrels out if they come out for sale..

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