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Posted: 9/24/2014 10:40:25 PM EDT
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Doing a rebuild of XM16E1. I have Upper minus BCG and charging handle. Also have buttstock,Edgewater buffer and spring. No Lower.Believe S/N might be something like 711XXX. Want to shoot the thing when I am through. Want to be historically accurate but want chromed barrel. Where can I get parkerized 20" .625 chromed barrel. Also parkerized .625 FSB , .625 triangular handguard cap and dust cover? Any advice and/or suggestions that would aid me in this rebuild would be greatly appreciated. I really do not want to reinvent the wheel. http://shop.ar15sport.ihoststores.com/productinfo_v3.aspx?productid=BARREL-20LWT12 http://shop.ar15sport.ihoststores.com/category_v3.aspx?categoryid=91 http://www.ebay.com/itm/111295834174 http://www.nodakspud.com/AR%20Lowers.htm https://www.stagarms.com/5-56-223-chrome-bolt-carrier-assembly-right-handed/ http://bpullignwolnet.dotster.com/retroblackrifle/ModGde.html http://bpullignwolnet.dotster.com/retroblackrifle/ModGde/RflGde/603E1.html Where are you located in Tennessee? I was born and raised around Kingsport. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 11:02:23 PM EDT
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If it's an original XM upper, I'd use it. That barrel may not be as bad as you think - although most of them got shot out. Regardless, we could help you more with some pictures.  Put up some pics like Morg said in the other thread. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/657058_.html&page=1&anc=6614431#i6614431 |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:33:22 AM EDT
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Thank you gentlemen for reply. Brand new to the site,not real sure how it works. barrel was heavily rusted. So far I have not been able to remove FSB or flash hider. I have been soaking in Kroil for three days,gonna try to remove again tonight. I am in Gallatin,Tn. Will try to submit pics. My research and help from guys at retroblackrifle suggest it is all original. have talked to Mike at Nodak,he is not taking any new work. Any suggestions on how to bribe him into doing me a lower?
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Posted: 9/25/2014 9:00:32 AM EDT
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Thank you gentlemen for reply. Brand new to the site,not real sure how it works. barrel was heavily rusted. So far I have not been able to remove FSB or flash hider. I have been soaking in Kroil for three days,gonna try to remove again tonight. I am in Gallatin,Tn. Will try to submit pics. My research and help from guys at retroblackrifle suggest it is all original. have talked to Mike at Nodak,he is not taking any new work. Any suggestions on how to bribe him into doing me a lower? get on the backorder list and wait. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 11:21:13 AM EDT
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Thank you gentlemen for reply. Brand new to the site,not real sure how it works. barrel was heavily rusted. So far I have not been able to remove FSB or flash hider. I have been soaking in Kroil for three days,gonna try to remove again tonight. I am in Gallatin,Tn. Will try to submit pics. My research and help from guys at retroblackrifle suggest it is all original. have talked to Mike at Nodak,he is not taking any new work. Any suggestions on how to bribe him into doing me a lower? No need to bribe, get on the backorder list and you will have your lower in no time. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 2:20:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No need to bribe, get on the backorder list and you will have your lower in no time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thank you gentlemen for reply. Brand new to the site,not real sure how it works. barrel was heavily rusted. So far I have not been able to remove FSB or flash hider. I have been soaking in Kroil for three days,gonna try to remove again tonight. I am in Gallatin,Tn. Will try to submit pics. My research and help from guys at retroblackrifle suggest it is all original. have talked to Mike at Nodak,he is not taking any new work. Any suggestions on how to bribe him into doing me a lower? No need to bribe, get on the backorder list and you will have your lower in no time. This. I sent my order in very recently for a NDS-XM16E1 receiver and got the call last night from Harlan. It should ship to my dealer within a couple of days. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:13:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2014 11:36:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:have talked to Mike at Nodak,he is not taking any new work. We are taking pre-orders for NDS-XM16E1 lower receivers. To place a pre-order, you can call us at 952-942-1909. Thanks. Harlan NoDak Spud LLC |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 3:52:23 PM EDT
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Here are pics of what I have. Thank you again for all the help
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Posted: 10/3/2014 4:08:38 PM EDT
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So I uploaded some pictures to photobucket and replied below. What I can't figure out is how to make the pictures actually display instead of showing links?
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:25:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I uploaded some pictures to photobucket and replied below. What I can't figure out is how to make the pictures actually display instead of showing links? I did see your photos and voted to approve them, so once a few more people vote they'll show up. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:33:13 PM EDT
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Nice collection of parts, thanks for posting. I like that upper receiver and charging handle combo. Is the slip ring rough textured? It almost looks like some refinished ones I've seen. What markings are on the barrel and how bad is the bore and chamber? (erosion, rust) Here is something very similar, one of my favorites:
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Here are pics of what I have. Thank you again for all the help <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0061_zps28fd44df.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0061_zps28fd44df.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0060_zpsb16267a5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0060_zpsb16267a5.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0058_zps296f5505.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0058_zps296f5505.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0057_zps43d89b09.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0057_zps43d89b09.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0056_zpsdf9de5ae.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0056_zpsdf9de5ae.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0055_zps1b1708bc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0055_zps1b1708bc.jpg</a> |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 10:25:58 PM EDT
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We are taking pre-orders for NDS-XM16E1 lower receivers. To place a pre-order, you can call us at 952-942-1909. Thanks. Harlan NoDak Spud LLC Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:have talked to Mike at Nodak,he is not taking any new work. We are taking pre-orders for NDS-XM16E1 lower receivers. To place a pre-order, you can call us at 952-942-1909. Thanks. Harlan NoDak Spud LLC What's the lead time ? |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 11:07:18 PM EDT
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Harlan, got email about my XM lower being ready to ship. Thank you ,what great service!!!
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Posted: 10/3/2014 11:21:24 PM EDT
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Slip ring looks just like yours. barrel covered in rust when I got it. Parkerized finish very degraded especially from FSB to muzzle. FSB corroded and pitted. Flash hider corroded and pitted. Like to never got flash hider off. Cannot budge pins in FSB. Visual on bore shows a lot of rust. Could be shot out? Heck it is 50 years old
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Posted: 10/3/2014 11:32:15 PM EDT
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NO markings on barrel. Sorry forgot question
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:45:49 PM EDT
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Here are pics of what I have. Thank you again for all the help <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0061_zps28fd44df.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0061_zps28fd44df.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0060_zpsb16267a5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0060_zpsb16267a5.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0058_zps296f5505.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0058_zps296f5505.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0057_zps43d89b09.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0057_zps43d89b09.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0056_zpsdf9de5ae.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0056_zpsdf9de5ae.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/IMG_0055_zps1b1708bc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/lcrawfy60/IMG_0055_zps1b1708bc.jpg</a> Nice! Looks like you need a lower receiver, lower parts kit, receiver extension (aka: buffer tube ), late style buffer in lieu of the edgewater, bolt carrier group...then you will be in business.
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:52:48 PM EDT
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Nice bunch of parts. Not sure how you gathered them, all in a lot, or piece by piece?
Welcome 
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Posted: 10/8/2014 10:10:58 PM EDT
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Got pieces all in a lot. Where do I find a late style buffer tube/receiver extension?
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Posted: 10/8/2014 10:46:23 PM EDT
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Nice parts.
You'll want a gray buffer tube. I think Centerfire Systems had them. |
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Posted: 10/9/2014 12:12:06 AM EDT
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I hate to say this, but search the EE if you want a gray tube at a decent price. The big name vendors have pushed the prices up to about $40 to $50 for an A1 receiver extension.
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Posted: 10/9/2014 6:59:45 PM EDT
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Got pieces all in a lot. Where do I find a late style buffer tube/receiver extension? These are the only old grey Colt receiver extensions I can find at the moment... https://apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/49_172/products_id/1371 https://apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/49_172/products_id/3244 I meant this style of buffer (linked below), which replaced the Edgewater. Edgewater buffers are selling for a couple hundred dollars plus or minus...and they were replaced for a reason. http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/1960sm16m16a1m16a2originalgicompletebolt-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.aspx |
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Posted: 10/9/2014 7:34:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2014 7:50:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHe's my pusher man too!
Very good guy with very good swag! I see you sending many money orders to some place called Pflugerville in the near future. 
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Posted: 10/9/2014 11:54:02 PM EDT
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Sounds like someone needs to get a bumper sticker that says, "My money and my money go to Pflugerville U."
"Boywonder' stands for "Boy I Wonder how much cool stuff he has.
My sister lives in Round Rock, and everytime I go to visit her I have to smile when I drive by the Pflugerville exit. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 12:19:48 AM EDT
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Sounds like someone needs to get a bumper sticker that says, "My money and my money go to Pflugerville U." "Boywonder' stands for "Boy I Wonder how much cool stuff he has.
My sister lives in Round Rock, and everytime I go to visit her I have to smile when I drive by the Pflugerville exit. i wish you guys could help convince my wife it's cool. she complains about it all the time
lemme know next time you're up in round rock, we can grab some bbq. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 12:21:16 AM EDT
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He's my pusher man too!
Very good guy with very good swag! I see you sending many money orders to some place called Pflugerville in the near future. Quote HistoryQuoted:
He's my pusher man too!
Very good guy with very good swag! I see you sending many money orders to some place called Pflugerville in the near future. 
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Posted: 10/10/2014 5:52:47 AM EDT
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This song is responsible for much of my hearing loss.
 The subject matter is responsible for the loss of gray matter.   |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 11:42:48 AM EDT
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Thank you all for the help. Now I have to decide on what to do about barrel.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 10:07:55 PM EDT
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Update on project: waiting on lower,it is at engraver.
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Posted: 11/17/2014 7:08:39 AM EDT
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Sounds like someone needs to get a bumper sticker that says, "My money and my money go to Pflugerville U." "Boywonder' stands for "Boy I Wonder how much cool stuff he has.
My sister lives in Round Rock, and everytime I go to visit her I have to smile when I drive by the Pflugerville exit. Dr. Wonder has the remedy. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 11:48:32 PM EDT
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About two weeks ago Stag Arms had chrome BCG on sale. I bought one for my XM project. BCG arrived promptly ,great service, and looked great. It took me a couple days to find time to fool with it,cleaned it up etc. Put it in the XM upper I have and it would not slide in. Needless to say I was puzzled. Took BCG from my 6920 and it slid right in,Stag BCG went in my 6920. Called Stag and real nice guy in service could not explain and advised to send it back. I did and promptly got refund. If anyone has any thoughts on this situation please share them
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Posted: 11/22/2014 12:12:23 PM EDT
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About two weeks ago Stag Arms had chrome BCG on sale. I bought one for my XM project. BCG arrived promptly ,great service, and looked great. It took me a couple days to find time to fool with it,cleaned it up etc. Put it in the XM upper I have and it would not slide in. Needless to say I was puzzled. Took BCG from my 6920 and it slid right in,Stag BCG went in my 6920. Called Stag and real nice guy in service could not explain and advised to send it back. I did and promptly got refund. If anyone has any thoughts on this situation please share them  Bummer. I think I suggested the Stag as a substitute stand in for an original BCG  . It sounds like a tolerance issue, the receiver ID may have been made to the small side, and the bolt carrier OD to the high side, resulting in the tightness. It is also possible the plating was slightly thicker than spec on the Stag BCG.
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Posted: 11/24/2014 8:43:24 PM EDT
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thanks,that what I suspected. Now what?
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Posted: 11/24/2014 9:26:27 PM EDT
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Any thoughts on a Daniel Defense BCG?
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Posted: 12/5/2014 4:53:37 PM EDT
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Got my NDS lower back from engraver (IDENT Markings) yesterday and shipped it out to Victor today. Slowly but surely things are moving along. Jason and his staff at IDENT did a fantastic job!!!
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Posted: 12/24/2014 2:27:49 PM EDT
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Help. When I get to barrel installation will I need a 5.56 or a .223 Headspace Go Gage. Have not decided on barrel yet but was excited to hear about Brownells soon to be offering a retro barrel .Probably be Feb. before I decide. Will barrel decision dictate the size gage I'll need? Trust Santa will be good to everyone. Merry Christmas!
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Posted: 1/12/2015 9:07:25 AM EDT
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I am headed to UPS this PM to pickup my anodized NDS lower . Now I get to put it together. Will post pix as soon as I am finished probably be early Feb as I am chasing waterfowl until Jan 25.
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Posted: 2/17/2015 10:29:28 AM EDT
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http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/018_zps13600ef0.jpg.htmlhttp://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/064_zpse32e1792.jpg.htmlhttp://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/063_zps2b769231.jpg.htmlhttp://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/062_zps4498bf90.jpg.htmlhttp://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/061_zpsf995d864.jpg.htmlhttp://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/060_zps903b4642.jpg.htmlhttp://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/059_zps193a1b8c.jpg.htmlhttp://s1153.photobucket.com/user/lcrawfy60/media/053_zpsa6ef7510.jpg.html
As promised photos of my XM lower assembled. Pic not in order. A big thank you to boywonder for all his help.Very happy with build so far. Probably wind up living under a bridge on an interstate in Florida when I am finished with build. Can someone give me some cardboard? |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 12:02:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2015 12:27:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2015 2:51:25 PM EDT
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pics fixed:
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Posted: 2/17/2015 3:56:20 PM EDT
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Nice, Very Nice. You are definitely going to have a nice rifle when your done. I like to know, Who did your engraving, and how much did it cost? |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 5:12:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2015 6:21:28 PM EDT
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Ident Markings did engraving $110 les shipping
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Posted: 2/17/2015 8:23:07 PM EDT
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Great build...
Edit: Had you mixed up with someone else. Damned Budweiser.
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Posted: 2/17/2015 8:53:24 PM EDT
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Im actually from Kingsport too. Just finishing up college in Murfreesboro Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doing a rebuild of XM16E1. I have Upper minus BCG and charging handle. Also have buttstock,Edgewater buffer and spring. No Lower.Believe S/N might be something like 711XXX. Want to shoot the thing when I am through. Want to be historically accurate but want chromed barrel. Where can I get parkerized 20" .625 chromed barrel. Also parkerized .625 FSB , .625 triangular handguard cap and dust cover? Any advice and/or suggestions that would aid me in this rebuild would be greatly appreciated. I really do not want to reinvent the wheel. http://shop.ar15sport.ihoststores.com/productinfo_v3.aspx?productid=BARREL-20LWT12 http://shop.ar15sport.ihoststores.com/category_v3.aspx?categoryid=91 http://www.ebay.com/itm/111295834174 http://www.nodakspud.com/AR%20Lowers.htm https://www.stagarms.com/5-56-223-chrome-bolt-carrier-assembly-right-handed/ http://bpullignwolnet.dotster.com/retroblackrifle/ModGde.html http://bpullignwolnet.dotster.com/retroblackrifle/ModGde/RflGde/603E1.html Where are you located in Tennessee? I was born and raised around Kingsport. Im actually from Kingsport too. Just finishing up college in Murfreesboro Cool beans.
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Posted: 2/17/2015 9:43:27 PM EDT
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There is both the chromed and parked XM carriers on GB. Would recommend finding a CMPC barrel or CMPB. They show up from time to time on the EE and gunbroker.
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Posted: 2/17/2015 11:26:49 PM EDT
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Potential barrel solution here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_159/1362983_Colt_604_upper_w_barrel__VG_condition__pic_heavy__price_lowered.html
I've been eyeing it for weeks to replace the C MP B on my XM16E1 but don't want to take the plunge. Buy it, break it up, sell the receiver and you should be into a nice C MP C barrel for ~$300. |
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