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Posted: 9/15/2014 9:08:27 PM EDT
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Im not buying this one, but just for future reference, would the M16A1 Gods strike me down if I was to stake this key or is that good to go? Lol
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Posted: 9/15/2014 9:15:37 PM EDT
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Im not buying this one, but just for future reference, would the M16A1 Gods strike me down if I was to stake this key or is that good to go? Lol it has the retro dot stakes on top. i wouldn't side stake it again. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 9:56:45 PM EDT
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Can I ask what makes that worth $310?
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:01:30 PM EDT
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Can I ask what makes that worth $310? it an original early xm16e1 bolt carrier. one of the rarest retro bolt carrier groups. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:07:08 PM EDT
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Can I ask what makes that worth $310? Age and rarity my friend. And thank you boywonder, I didn't even notice it already was lol |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:23:25 PM EDT
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What are the features making it rare?
Ok. I'll guess. Chromed key(round, half round?) and carrier, FA serations, large FP countersink ? What else? |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:23:42 PM EDT
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Age and rarity my friend. And thank you boywonder, I didn't even notice it already was lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can I ask what makes that worth $310? Age and rarity my friend. And thank you boywonder, I didn't even notice it already was lol no prob. price isn't that bad either considering it's NOS. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:24:57 PM EDT
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Probably the rarest BCG out there. They simply didn't make that many of them before they got the okay to switch to parkerized BCGs in '65. In comparison, many 601,602 and 604 chrome BCGs were already in service by that time. My concern is that people will start faking them.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:35:29 PM EDT
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Age and rarity my friend. And thank you boywonder, I didn't even notice it already was lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can I ask what makes that worth $310? Age and rarity my friend. And thank you boywonder, I didn't even notice it already was lol If you look at all the old original carrier keys, they are all staked like that...unless it's been replaced/refurbed It's a good way to tell if it's an original or a later replacement key. I've seen real keys done with looks like square and circle stakes on the top of the gas key. If you see enough of them you will see why they changed it to the side, no two look alike and are hastily done, as the side stakes all look the same and most definately is a better method/spot. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:38:13 PM EDT
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Probably the rarest BCG out there. They simply didn't make that many of them before they got the okay to switch to parkerized BCGs in '65. In comparison, many 601,602 and 604 chrome BCGs were already in service by that time. My concern is that people will start faking them. Your absolutely right, and I was gonna mention the exact samething, it wouldn't very hard to fake at all. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 8:48:40 AM EDT
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So the staking makes it special? "C" stamped or not?
Seriously, i'm trying to figure it out. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 8:59:27 AM EDT
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So the staking makes it special? "C" stamped or not? Seriously, i'm trying to figure it out. it's the hard chrome that makes it rare. xm16e1 had a few different carriers. chrome, parkerized w/o C stamp, parkerized w/ C stamp. they all have an enlarged firing pin retaining hole on the right and have circle or square stakes on top. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 9:01:28 AM EDT
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So the staking makes it special? "C" stamped or not? Seriously, i'm trying to figure it out. The xm16e1 was the first model to use forward assist , So the combination of three things make it rare- Forward assist notches/ chrome / large cam pin hole. Really any chrome carrier would pass , but the large cam Pin home is the dead giveaway as to it being original Or not. When I built mine I just used a rock river chrome carrier. And like I said, the absence of the large cam pin hole Is the giveaway. But I wanted to move on to the next project so I'll probably get one eventually. I don't think it would be hard to replicate one. Take a modern carrier and widen the hole. But than you You have to have it re chromed ,,, or stripped And re chromed. I almost did this,, but I worried that a additional Layer or chrome would throw it out of spec. I'll try it one of these days. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 9:42:40 AM EDT
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Ha, anywhere I said " cam pin hole" above,,, I meant to
Say the firing pin retaining hole. Note to self- drink coffee before texting |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 10:59:39 AM EDT
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Thanks guys.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 11:47:28 AM EDT
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And those xm16 carriers are so rare and expensive
I decided to build a few projects as slab sides So I could use 601 carriers which are easier to come by. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 12:46:02 PM EDT
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which bolt ? I remember reading narrow band and wide band somewhere.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 1:08:14 PM EDT
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I don't know if this iis a pic of the sellers bcg. The photo is on GB with a PA seller.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=441741836 |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 2:47:17 PM EDT
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I'd buy it for 250...not a penny more
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Posted: 10/13/2014 2:35:18 PM EDT
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Nvm
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