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Posted: 8/6/2015 2:34:47 PM EDT
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flats + NDS lower = win
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Posted: 8/6/2015 5:47:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2015 1:27:11 AM EDT
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Joined the club today. Need to get the green paint off. BHO is intact. I need to find an original mag.
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Posted: 8/9/2015 1:43:22 AM EDT
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Joined the club today. Need to get the green paint off. BHO is intact. I need to find an original mag. http://imageshack.us/a/img633/7590/2wUaPM.jpg Find the person who rattle canned that furniture. I don't care what it takes. Get a second job, deliver news papers, play the lottery, sell girl scout cookies, hell, take out a second mortgage. Find them, and the PUNCH THEM SQUARELY IN THE DICK! Anyway, good job finding one with an intact BHO. How'd you do on price? ETA: can you get some better pics up when you get a chance? Receiver ones. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 1:50:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Find the person who rattle canned that furniture. I don't care what it takes. Get a second job, deliver news papers, play the lottery, sell girl scout cookies, hell, take out a second mortgage. Find them, and the PUNCH THEM SQUARELY IN THE DICK! Anyway, good job finding one with an intact BHO. How'd you do on price? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Joined the club today. Need to get the green paint off. BHO is intact. I need to find an original mag. http://imageshack.us/a/img633/7590/2wUaPM.jpg Find the person who rattle canned that furniture. I don't care what it takes. Get a second job, deliver news papers, play the lottery, sell girl scout cookies, hell, take out a second mortgage. Find them, and the PUNCH THEM SQUARELY IN THE DICK! Anyway, good job finding one with an intact BHO. How'd you do on price? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile $850 in the EE. A 180 has been on my "to do" list for a while, and I figured the paint isn't a big deal. It's wearing off. Brought it over to Dad's house to show him, and he scratched his name into the paint when I wasn't looking and claimed it as his property.  This is the same man who jammed his thumb into my to-go container of leftover Thanksgiving stuffing so that I would open it and find it in such a state once I was two hours away. The man is a genius. Edit: Receiver markings... later Sterling,  |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 7:28:25 AM EDT
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I think the green paint looks kind of nice - Not original, but certainly not ugly.
5+ years ago these weren't as collectable and seen as an underdog compared to the AR15, Someone probably wanted to try a new look. I don't think it looks bad. |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 12:23:24 PM EDT
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You could clean it off and have one just like everyone else's or you could carry it and shoot it and give a battle field pick up look. That would be bad ass.
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Posted: 8/9/2015 1:22:14 PM EDT
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Anyone have more pics of the trigger group internals ? thanks 
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Posted: 8/9/2015 1:41:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2015 2:00:35 PM EDT
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Some advice, put your rifle on safe when you open it like that.
One pulled trigger and it's bye-bye to your irreplaceable bolt hold-open. FWIW, I took my BHO out to safeguard it. |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 2:09:40 PM EDT
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I don't have any with all the internal parts removed from the gun. that's the pic that prompted me to ask. is the hammer also stamped sheet metal ? I know Stoner designed it to be easy/cheap to manufacture
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Posted: 8/9/2015 2:12:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think I am supposed to use this site to sell anything Here's the FAQ for using it. |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 2:17:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that's the pic that prompted me to ask. is the hammer also stamped sheet metal ? I know Stoner designed it to be easy/cheap to manufacture I've always liked the running gag that almost every part on the AR-18 can be made with a file and hacksaw.  On mine the sear wore down and started to double letting off the trigger. Had a smith notch it out and weld in fresh barstock and re-profile it. Works like a champ. Since the sear is part of the hammer like the AR-15, being folded sheet like that it doesn't have as much surface area to spread the wear out. |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 2:29:07 PM EDT
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I'll share my second home built 180 project.
I have the upper done to this point wire and clamps. I can get the bolt to lock and unlock in the barrel extension smoothly. Just need to dedicate some time to finish it up when life isn't in the way. 
I'm using a mid length barrel AR-15 barrel for the build. The mid length op rod was turned by me and had to move the gas block shoulder back about 3/16 of a inch to line up the gas port with the 180 FSB. |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 3:15:30 PM EDT
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$850 in the EE. A 180 has been on my "to do" list for a while, and I figured the paint isn't a big deal. It's wearing off. Brought it over to Dad's house to show him, and he scratched his name into the paint when I wasn't looking and claimed it as his property. http://imageshack.us/a/img540/2425/QG88sU.jpg This is the same man who jammed his thumb into my to-go container of leftover Thanksgiving stuffing so that I would open it and find it in such a state once I was two hours away. The man is a genius. Edit: Receiver markings... later Sterling, http://imageshack.us/a/img537/1953/39OSbH.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Joined the club today. Need to get the green paint off. BHO is intact. I need to find an original mag. http://imageshack.us/a/img633/7590/2wUaPM.jpg Find the person who rattle canned that furniture. I don't care what it takes. Get a second job, deliver news papers, play the lottery, sell girl scout cookies, hell, take out a second mortgage. Find them, and the PUNCH THEM SQUARELY IN THE DICK! Anyway, good job finding one with an intact BHO. How'd you do on price? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile $850 in the EE. A 180 has been on my "to do" list for a while, and I figured the paint isn't a big deal. It's wearing off. Brought it over to Dad's house to show him, and he scratched his name into the paint when I wasn't looking and claimed it as his property. http://imageshack.us/a/img540/2425/QG88sU.jpg This is the same man who jammed his thumb into my to-go container of leftover Thanksgiving stuffing so that I would open it and find it in such a state once I was two hours away. The man is a genius. Edit: Receiver markings... later Sterling, http://imageshack.us/a/img537/1953/39OSbH.jpg That's funny right there. You made out like a bandit at $850. Factory mags are pretty rediculious price wise, converting AR mags is relatively simple. Also, I've been seeing runs of new production 40 rounders for $30. |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 3:34:23 PM EDT
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It would be awesome if someone had a jig set up to make the right side cut in AR mags to convert them.
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Posted: 8/9/2015 4:35:28 PM EDT
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Test fired today. Shooting 2" high at 50 yds. Not gonna mess with it.
Really need a 20 rounder. The thirty is annoying. Also, BHO would not disengage with a fresh mag inserted. Have to drop the bolt, insert mag, then full pullback. Likely mag related. Trying to drop the bolt with a fresh mag felt like dropping it on an empty one. Most of the paint is off the grip now. It's an annoying task.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 5:03:46 PM EDT
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Test fired today. Shooting 2" high at 50 yds. Not gonna mess with it. Really need a 20 rounder. The thirty is annoying. Also, BHO would not disengage with a fresh mag inserted. Have to drop the bolt, insert mag, then full pullback. Likely mag related. Trying to drop the bolt with a fresh mag felt like dropping it on an empty one. Most of the paint is off the grip now. It's an annoying task. http://imageshack.us/a/img538/1339/3BO1c5.jpg How did you enjoy it? I really like shooting my 180, for me personally it comes back on target better than an AR15. Im really hoping we see a modern production version someday soon. |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 5:15:42 PM EDT
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Test fired today. Shooting 2" high at 50 yds. Not gonna mess with it. Really need a 20 rounder. The thirty is annoying. Also, BHO would not disengage with a fresh mag inserted. Have to drop the bolt, insert mag, then full pullback. Likely mag related. Trying to drop the bolt with a fresh mag felt like dropping it on an empty one. Most of the paint is off the grip now. It's an annoying task. http://imageshack.us/a/img538/1339/3BO1c5.jpg You have to shave some meat off of the follower. There's some tutorials online. It's basically a 45 degree cut off of the back, top end. Takes five minutes with a file. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 5:36:44 PM EDT
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For those not too handy Pete Fleis in St Louis MO for a nominal fee has a jig all set up for cutting the AR-18/180 slot and notching the follower, as always first class workmanship is done by Pete Fleis a Class 3 mfg specializing in the AR-18/180.
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Posted: 8/9/2015 5:40:32 PM EDT
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You have to shave some meat off of the follower. There's some tutorials online. It's basically a 45 degree cut off of the back, top end. Takes five minutes with a file. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You also have to shave some off of the spine of the magazine. That's probably why the BHO wont disengage. |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 10:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How did you enjoy it? I really like shooting my 180, for me personally it comes back on target better than an AR15. Im really hoping we see a modern production version someday soon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Test fired today. Shooting 2" high at 50 yds. Not gonna mess with it. Really need a 20 rounder. The thirty is annoying. Also, BHO would not disengage with a fresh mag inserted. Have to drop the bolt, insert mag, then full pullback. Likely mag related. Trying to drop the bolt with a fresh mag felt like dropping it on an empty one. Most of the paint is off the grip now. It's an annoying task. http://imageshack.us/a/img538/1339/3BO1c5.jpg How did you enjoy it? I really like shooting my 180, for me personally it comes back on target better than an AR15. Im really hoping we see a modern production version someday soon. Really enjoyed it. Dad is hooked. Might have to find him one. I'm going to cease using these mags until they are properly fitted or replaced. Can't risk a BHO break. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 8:12:43 PM EDT
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Well, I'm impulsive.
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Posted: 8/20/2015 12:26:10 AM EDT
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I've been in your shoes before
I still am in many ways. |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 5:32:36 AM EDT
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Looks like you found some twenty round mags. Is the second rifle also a Sterling?
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Posted: 8/20/2015 4:14:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like you found some twenty round mags. Is the second rifle also a Sterling? Both Sterling, the new one much better fit and finish. Came with five original mags and one high quality conversion. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:53:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryJust saw this in the EE. I was curious about the "NorthMark" sight. Can you post a pic? |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 2:32:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2015 8:52:09 AM EDT
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Rix,
That looks amazing! I'll probably be dropping you an email soon if you don't mind i'm back on the hunt again. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 2:08:06 PM EDT
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The cleanist Sterling (AR180 of any flavor really) I have ever scene was spotted at fun show this weekend. BHO and hinge are GTG, the welds don't look like a hack job and it literally looks fresh out of the box. Asking $1400, can probably get it down to $1300. I would fo if I REALLY wanted an AR180 and didn't have one already.
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Posted: 9/16/2015 3:27:57 PM EDT
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I have a request of the owners of Howa 180's with serial numbers under 1000. You know the ones that started life as AR-18's.
I can not for the life of me find any pictures of the area on the bottom of the upper receiver where the auto sear was removed. I expect t find a couple things, the ears were cut off and that should be apparent, and the welded ends at the rear of the receiver are overlapped. My research indicates that AR-180 upper receivers were butt welded and the rear of the AR-18's were overlapped then welded. You can just make out the extra thickness of the area in question in this picture of an AR-18 
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Posted: 9/17/2015 1:27:58 AM EDT
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Does this help?
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Posted: 9/17/2015 1:43:02 AM EDT
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Not what I was expecting to see.
Looks like they cut out the section with the ears and welded a new plate in. Cool. Thanks and I hope some others might have pics so we can make sure it is not an anomaly. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 1:57:44 AM EDT
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Not what I was expecting to see. Looks like they cut out the section with the ears and welded a new plate in. Cool. Thanks and I hope some others might have pics so we can make sure it is not an anomaly. No worries. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 9:41:23 AM EDT
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Let me look this weekend at mine, I've got ser#29X and I don't remember mine looking like that. I think it has the ears, I can't check until Saturday though.
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Posted: 9/17/2015 10:50:17 AM EDT
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Rincon11's obviously had the ears at one time. You can tell by the notch next to where the plate has been welded in.
If some came with ears intact that would certainly explain why many of the Howa's went to Ireland as full auto guns. Add AR-18 parts and they are ready to rock and roll. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 3:56:53 PM EDT
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Howa made. Love this rifle. Ultimate in RETRO!!
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Posted: 9/17/2015 3:58:20 PM EDT
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Receiver....5 digit. Can someone give me a year of Mfg?
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Posted: 9/17/2015 6:33:42 PM EDT
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Receiver....5 digit. Can someone give me a year of Mfg? http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg521/37thguy/AR180%20upper_zpsaj3ynk9i.jpg(')> Quote HistoryQuoted:
Receiver....5 digit. Can someone give me a year of Mfg? http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg521/37thguy/AR180%20upper_zpsaj3ynk9i.jpg(')> From page two. Quoted:
Copied many years ago. Would give credit if I knew who to give it to! "Costa Mesa rifles: S0001-S00012 July 1969 12 rifles S0014-S0050 no date 37 rifles S0030 no date 1 rifle S0077 no date 1 rifle S0101-S4067 no date 3967 rifle TOTAL 4018 rifles Howa rifles X000001-X000012 Oct 1970 12 rifles S000001-S001000 no date 1000 rifles S10001-S12915 Feb 1974 2915 rifles TOTAL 3927 rifles Sterling rifles S15001-S27363 1979-1985 12,362 rifles Fairly vague, but that's the theme with these rifles. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 6:34:44 PM EDT
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Double tap.
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Posted: 9/17/2015 6:54:53 PM EDT
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I've got a converted Sterling AR180, done right at the end in May 1986. One problem that many of the select fire rifles have is that the original design firing pin would pierce the primers on commercial primers when firing in full auto. The firing pin was very pointy. Not a problem on semi auto unless the tip of the firing pin chipped, as they were also prone to do and not a problem with hard military primers. I just picked up a newly made firing pin, made out of titanium, that was made to a modified design Armalite came out with but never went into production with. For the first time in the number of years that I have owned this fine rifle, I am now able to fire it using my reloads (same ones I use in an AC556 and a couple M16's) with soft primers and it is running flawlessly. I've got a number of mags through it now without a hitch, something that was not possible before. It will work as well with the semi auto AR180's.
I love mine, and have an original Armalite scope for it as well. Color me a happy shooter now! |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 7:25:22 PM EDT
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I have S0141 (or so) in the back of the safe.
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Posted: 9/18/2015 1:50:55 PM EDT
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#968 looks just like Rincon_11's. However, I don't think that the rear of the receiver on AR-18's were overlapped and welded, but were just butt welded. I think that the extra thickness you are seeing is the weld bead standing proud of the surface. On #968 and Rincon_11's, the area forward of the cut out is butt welded and there is a weld bead there. I believe that the area where the plate was welded to make the upper semi-auto was also just butt welded. But, I could be wrong.
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Posted: 9/18/2015 2:04:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/18/2015 6:50:09 PM EDT
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#968 looks just like Rincon_11's. However, I don't think that the rear of the receiver on AR-18's were overlapped and welded, but were just butt welded. I think that the extra thickness you are seeing is the weld bead standing proud of the surface. On #968 and Rincon_11's, the area forward of the cut out is butt welded and there is a weld bead there. I believe that the area where the plate was welded to make the upper semi-auto was also just butt welded. But, I could be wrong. I've actually seen the original blueprints and noted that the AR-18's were overlapped and the AR-180's were butt welded. |
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Posted: 9/18/2015 8:13:22 PM EDT
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I've actually seen the original blueprints and noted that the AR-18's were overlapped and the AR-180's were butt welded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#968 looks just like Rincon_11's. However, I don't think that the rear of the receiver on AR-18's were overlapped and welded, but were just butt welded. I think that the extra thickness you are seeing is the weld bead standing proud of the surface. On #968 and Rincon_11's, the area forward of the cut out is butt welded and there is a weld bead there. I believe that the area where the plate was welded to make the upper semi-auto was also just butt welded. But, I could be wrong. I've actually seen the original blueprints and noted that the AR-18's were overlapped and the AR-180's were butt welded. Wouldn't that make the receiver slightly taller on the side that was over-lapped, unless there was a step? |
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Posted: 9/18/2015 11:15:18 PM EDT
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I've actually seen the original blueprints and noted that the AR-18's were overlapped and the AR-180's were butt welded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#968 looks just like Rincon_11's. However, I don't think that the rear of the receiver on AR-18's were overlapped and welded, but were just butt welded. I think that the extra thickness you are seeing is the weld bead standing proud of the surface. On #968 and Rincon_11's, the area forward of the cut out is butt welded and there is a weld bead there. I believe that the area where the plate was welded to make the upper semi-auto was also just butt welded. But, I could be wrong. I've actually seen the original blueprints and noted that the AR-18's were overlapped and the AR-180's were butt welded. Seems like a lot of variations in the early Howas. Nothing really surprises me. More like 'Who was working that day'. It would be interesting to see one with the ears still intact. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/18/2015 11:27:27 PM EDT
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What is the point of the ears?
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Posted: 9/18/2015 11:42:02 PM EDT
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What is the point of the ears? The ears hold the auto sear. Unlike the M16 the full auto stuff is all contained in the upper.
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Posted: 9/20/2015 1:15:47 AM EDT
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Here's Howa 29X. It has one ear |
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