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Posted: 8/4/2012 9:07:19 PM
[Last Edit: 8/4/2012 9:11:51 PM by amd6547]
I picked up a nice repro M1A1 For my Inland. I had alway been fascinated by their use in WWII. Also, an Pacific war Marine vet uncle supposedly used one to fight off robbers when he was working as a bank courier circa 1960.
When I shot with the folder installed, I was underwhelmed by the ergonomics. The grip felt awkward, and I just didn't like shooting it, even though I usually like folders. I just prefer the fixed stock on the carbine. It feels lively in the hands, and points very well. Anyway, trying the folder was good for interest in history. 
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Posted: 8/4/2012 9:22:54 PM
I like full stocks on carbines too.
I used own an original M1A1 stock. All original. But regretfully sold it 15 years ago. I picked up this repro on GB. Crazy flame. Will be sending it to the gentleman on GB who restores these to closer spec; rivets, leather, park, etc. I've never seen another one this intensely flamed. 
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Posted: 8/4/2012 9:25:42 PM
[Last Edit: 8/4/2012 9:26:54 PM by Bear_Flare]
Originally Posted By amd6547:
<snip>.... When I shot with the folder installed, I was underwhelmed by the ergonomics. The grip felt awkward, and I just didn't like shooting it, even though I usually like folders. I just prefer the fixed stock on the carbine. It feels lively in the hands, and points very well. <snip>.... That was probably the prevailing opinion of those who fought with them as well. By the end of WWII the padded paratrooper rifle jump bags were modified with an extension to fit a regular carbine without the folding stock. B_F |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 10:11:58 PM
I definitely prefer the fixed stock, though I don't mind the M1A1 folder that much. Once played with an M2 in an M1A1 stock as a possible entry weapon. At 900 ft lbs at the muzzle, a lot more pizazz than a 9mm SMG with 450 ft lbs!
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Posted: 8/4/2012 10:24:26 PM
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My Uncle Verne jumped into Normandy on D+3 with a full stock carbine FWIW. He never liked the folding stocks either - said a lot of guys didn't. I would like to build a VN era 'Advisor's carbine' someday with folding stock and 12" barrel. If I didn't have to pay for a stamp I'd likely have already done it. All in all though, I think it would limit the range of the M1 carbine even further.
ETA: pic of what I'm talking about: 
I bought a Mini-14 a few years ago - broke my finger so never got to shoot it, but I never liked the feel of it in comparison to the M1 carbine - doesn't make any logical sense, even to me, but there's something perfect about the ergonomics of the little M1. I will likely put a full stock on it once I move out of PHX and don't need it in it's current role, and bag the wire stock in some vegetable oil to keep it nice. |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 10:58:11 PM
Originally Posted By Hal143:
I like full stocks on carbines too. I used own an original M1A1 stock. All original. But regretfully sold it 15 years ago. I picked up this repro on GB. Crazy flame. Will be sending it to the gentleman on GB who restores these to closer spec; rivets, leather, park, etc. I've never seen another one this intensely flamed. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/halpark/1-1.jpg http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/halpark/4-4.jpg That's a beautiful stock! My wife's cousin has a USGI M1 Carbine with an original Cherry wood stock. Now that[s gorgeous! |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 12:18:30 AM
Originally Posted By imarangemaster:
Originally Posted By Hal143:
I like full stocks on carbines too. I used own an original M1A1 stock. All original. But regretfully sold it 15 years ago. I picked up this repro on GB. Crazy flame. Will be sending it to the gentleman on GB who restores these to closer spec; rivets, leather, park, etc. I've never seen another one this intensely flamed. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/halpark/1-1.jpg http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/halpark/4-4.jpg That's a beautiful stock! My wife's cousin has a USGI M1 Carbine with an original Cherry wood stock. Now that[s gorgeous! +1 REALLY nice wood! |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 12:36:35 AM
[Last Edit: 8/5/2012 12:40:25 AM by m1sniper]
Originally Posted By Hal143:
I like full stocks on carbines too. I used own an original M1A1 stock. All original. But regretfully sold it 15 years ago. I picked up this repro on GB. Crazy flame. Will be sending it to the gentleman on GB who restores these to closer spec; rivets, leather, park, etc. I've never seen another one this intensely flamed. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/halpark/1-1.jpg http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/halpark/4-4.jpg I will only say I'm glad I spent your money for that one!!! 
Well,,I'll add this.If you decide to get real crazy,contact Tony and ask if he will custom make you a handguard to match.Click on "galleries" and have a looksee.Remember that wild tiger birch M14 stock with matching HG I sent you pics of?? Well,,Tony did it. http://www.law483.com/id56.html |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 7:04:36 AM
Thanks fellas. M1Sniper is guilty of finding that stock on GB a couple years ago and passing the link on to me. He's dangerous that way.
It came with a perfect matching handguard. I think I heard many of the repros are coming out of Italy. Quality is kinda hit and miss. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 9:27:57 AM
Originally Posted By Hal143:
Thanks fellas. M1Sniper is guilty of finding that stock on GB a couple years ago and passing the link on to me. He's dangerous that way. It came with a perfect matching handguard. I think I heard many of the repros are coming out of Italy. Quality is kinda hit and miss. Pictures or it never happened! Love to see all them stripes wrapped around a Carbine! Beautiful pictures everyone! (except Hal!) 
I want to send my repro M1A1 stock off to that guy too. I need to drown the wood in some Chestnut Ridge too. It was cheap and it looks just OK as is but it will look better with new leather and a park job. I may dig it out and try this Inland on it and see how it looks with the type 2 band. I was able to pop that buggered front sight off yesterday morning. Came off with no cussing! I got lucky. Won a EU marked sight on ePay for $30 and it will be here Tuesday. We'll see if the installation goes without a cussing!  |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 5:30:57 PM
I really enjoy my M1 Carbine. I picked up a great M1 Inland barreled receiver and a Quality Hardware receiver from the CMP that I plan to built one day. I just wish there was a source for ammo still I could shoot them more often
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Posted: 8/7/2012 5:55:26 PM
Originally Posted By MacAttack:
I really enjoy my M1 Carbine. I picked up a great M1 Inland barreled receiver and a Quality Hardware receiver from the CMP that I plan to built one day. I just wish there was a source for ammo still I could shoot them more often Try CTD - they have reloads (Bitter Root mfg) for around the same price as 5.56 IIRC. |
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Posted: 8/22/2012 11:36:31 AM
I have a National Postal Meter that I love. The M1 carbine is such a light, handy and naturally pointing weapon it's phenomenal. Kind of like the M16/A1.  |
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Posted: 8/22/2012 12:18:39 PM
I have a S`G` marked Inland, the rear sight needs drifting as it's 1 click from being maxed out to zero it. Rifling is worn enough to make it almost look like a smooth bore. It's a great shooter and does its job nicely.
It's the only gun that I absolutely love having a mag pouch on the stock. It looks right and weights nicely with 2 10 round mags filled in the pouch. For my purposes if I take it for a walk 2 10 rounds in the pouch and a 15 rounder in the gun is more than enough, and the gun still points and weighs nicely. M1 carbines also sit on my back when slung the nicest of any gun I have. |
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Posted: 8/22/2012 4:26:56 PM
Originally Posted By BenC:
I have a S`G` marked Inland, the rear sight needs drifting as it's 1 click from being maxed out to zero it. Rifling is worn enough to make it almost look like a smooth bore. It's a great shooter and does its job nicely. It's the only gun that I absolutely love having a mag pouch on the stock. It looks right and weights nicely with 2 10 round mags filled in the pouch. For my purposes if I take it for a walk 2 10 rounds in the pouch and a 15 rounder in the gun is more than enough, and the gun still points and weighs nicely. M1 carbines also sit on my back when slung the nicest of any gun I have. They are sweet little rifles. Enough firepower to dispatch most critters both two legged and four and so light and comfortable you don;t even know it's there! Only downside is every time you pull the trigger it's like taking two quarters and throwing them down range. 
Wish some more of that Korean ammo comes home with the Korean Karbines. 
Wolf is sorta cheap but hard on the ejector (and dirty) and originals are gettin rarer every day. Need to start reloading before it's illegal! |
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Posted: 8/22/2012 4:44:27 PM
Originally Posted By Cal30M1:
Wolf is sorta cheap but hard on the ejector (and dirty) and originals are gettin rarer every day. Need to start reloading before it's illegal! My gun will not eat wolf no matter how hard I try. Does not like it. Runs like a top with old lake city ammo (have a few boxes left). And runs well with Aguila. When I bought my carbine Aguila was about $15 for 50. Then it went up to $30 locally... I just checked aim surplus and they've got it for $16.50!!!!!! http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=AG30FMJ110&name=Aguila+.30+Carbine+110grn+FMJ+50rd+box&groupid=86 |
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Posted: 8/22/2012 6:25:02 PM
I've found .30 carbine lately for about the same cost as 5.56 - you guys aren't looking hard enough.
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Posted: 9/15/2012 5:00:50 PM
Before;
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I've BEEN done did this but didn't update the post. That butchered thing was killing me so it got done FAST! The update took a bit longer. |
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Posted: 9/15/2012 5:08:39 PM
Originally Posted By Cal30M1:
Before; http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/Carbine/P1000193.jpg After; http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/Carbine/P1000583.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/Carbine/P1000577.jpg I've BEEN done did this but didn't update the post. That butchered thing was killing me so it got done FAST! The update took a bit longer. Nice job! I've seen too many barrels with dents and scratches behind the front sight base where someone (not me!  ) tried to knock the sight off.
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Posted: 9/15/2012 7:09:57 PM
I just stopped at the local gun shop to pick up some shotgun shells. Overheard a customer asking if they had any .30 cal carbine ammo––he couldn't find it on the shelf. The employee said no and commented that it's just not a popular caliber.
Now, understand––there were maybe eight people within earshot of this conversation. Almost like we'd rehearsed it, FIVE of us (not including the guy who originally asked for it) immediately jumped on the poor employee. "It's popular at my house!" "I shoot a lot of it!" "I have to buy it online because I can never find it here!" Poor kid had no idea what to do. He looked at us, basically surrounding him, and finally just said, "I'll mention that to the boss." I'll be watching to see if any shows up on the shelf. |
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Posted: 9/15/2012 9:38:51 PM
I don't know why you guys don't get off your asses and reload for the darn thing.
It's probably the easiest centerfire military cartridge to do. Carbide dies, trim to length, deburr, prime, H110, and some 110gr bullets. Viola ! I went from 2" @ 50yards w/Federal factory ammo to 1/2"-1" with some stuff I slapped together in an hour. |
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Posted: 9/15/2012 10:19:14 PM
Originally Posted By mike_nds:
I don't know why you guys don't get off your asses and reload for the darn thing.
It's probably the easiest centerfire military cartridge to do. Carbide dies, trim to length, deburr, prime, H110, and some 110gr bullets. Viola ! I went from 2" @ 50yards w/Federal factory ammo to 1/2"-1" with some stuff I slapped together in an hour. I am planning to do just that. I understand trimming to length is the key thing not to screw up. Seems pretty simple. |
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Posted: 9/15/2012 10:41:31 PM
I don't think I've ever trimmed my carbine brass - just too lazy. Dillon carbide sizer with my RCBS set and set up on my Dillon 450 with H-110. But I haven't loaded for a few years. I load a bunch when I do load and I've been shooting a lot of 5.56 and 7.62 - along with a boatload of .22LR. The carbine only gets exercised at our annual D-Day match in June. I prefer the Garand or 98-K for the Bastogne match in December - carbine might freeze up when the temperature drops to - oh - 82 or so.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 1:14:36 AM
Originally Posted By mike_nds:
I don't know why you guys don't get off your asses and reload for the darn thing.
It's probably the easiest centerfire military cartridge to do. Carbide dies, trim to length, deburr, prime, H110, and some 110gr bullets. Viola ! I went from 2" @ 50yards w/Federal factory ammo to 1/2"-1" with some stuff I slapped together in an hour. I plan to, but haven't had to yet. When I bought the Inland this spring, I tested it, decided I liked it, and immediately bought a set of dies. But then I found a decent deal on factory ammo so I stocked up. Figured I was gonna have to buy brass anyway––might as well buy it loaded! Currently have powder, bullets and primers standing by. Sometime in the next couple months I'll have to clean the brass I've been saving, then work up a pet load. |
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Posted: 9/16/2012 3:58:37 PM
Great thread.
I started this over on Milsurps and Imarangemaster has helped me over there. I have yet to pull the piston. But having said that, I've always liked my Carbine in theory. Weight handling, etc etc. But I could never get it to run right. I'll keep trying though. Because I really do like it.  |
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