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Posted: 1/31/2012 4:06:40 AM
Originally Posted By cda97:
This one looks really nice. 
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=271790122 That's the metal can I was referring to in my response above. They are, from what I understand, a bit heavier than the nylon one. You can, though shoot through it if you have a short barrel. |
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Posted: 1/31/2012 4:27:43 AM
It looks like it would help to balance out the Uzi and make it look good as well.
Originally Posted By MarkRSims: Originally Posted By cda97: This one looks really nice. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=271790122 That's the metal can I was referring to in my response above. They are, from what I understand, a bit heavier than the nylon one. You can, though shoot through it if you have a short barrel. |
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Posted: 1/31/2012 11:17:52 AM
[Last Edit: 1/31/2012 11:49:19 AM by MarkRSims]
Originally Posted By cda97:
Interesting! So I can have a full auto Uzi for 1/3 the cost of an M16.
I've seen them go for $6000.00 - $7000.00 Originally Posted By cda97:
I still need to understand the inner workings of an Uzi to fully understand how the bolt makes this weapon full auto. The full auto uzi fires from an "open bolt". Basically the sear holds the bolt back against spring pressure from the recoil spring. The "fingers" of the sear rest in two notches in the bottom of the bolt. When you pull the trigger with the selector in the "auto" position, it drops the two fingers of the sear that holds the bolt back, allowing the bolt to close over the breech end of the barrel, stripping a round out of the mag as it moves forward. That nub on the front of the bolt smacks the primer as the bolt closes, firing the round, which starts the whole process over again. Again, basically, it operates in "slamfire" until you release the trigger, which allows the sear to rise back up and block the forward movement of the bolt, stopping everything. With the selector in semiauto, the searreleases with each pull of the trigger to come back up in contact with notches in the bottom of the bolt, stopping the forward movement after one cycle. It's about the simplest most robust design you can imagine. Edit to add: The semiauto uzi is a "closed bolt" design. The old "open bolt" has most of the underside of the bolt milled off, and a hole bored down the center of the bolt (also eliminating the "nub") for a firing pin that slides back and forth on a carrier (the striker assembly). That carrier fits under the bolt where the material was previously milled off, and it interfaces with one of the fingers of the sear. The bolt now closes when the gun fires, stripping off a round in the process, but the firing pin is held back by the sear until the trigger is pulled again. Finally, blocking the "auto" position of the selector permanently (sadly) finishes the transformation.  |
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Posted: 1/31/2012 11:44:08 AM
[Last Edit: 1/31/2012 11:46:01 AM by MarkRSims]
You were wondering how the "registered bolt" fit into that whole process before. Yep, you can use it in a semiauto receiver, and it's handled the same as a registered drop in auto sear or a registered lightning link in an AR15. It's from the same era as the RDIAS and RLL and the uzi's version of the same resolution to the same problem. The Registered Bolt is considered the "machine gun" part, not the receiver, same as the RDIAS or RLL is considered the "machine gun" part not the semiauto AR15 receiver they're being used in. The registered bolt would have the registered info inscribed on it.
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Posted: 1/31/2012 1:29:55 PM
Thanks for explaining that I appreciate it.
Originally Posted By MarkRSims: You were wondering how the "registered bolt" fit into that whole process before. Yep, you can use it in a semiauto receiver, and it's handled the same as a registered drop in auto sear or a registered lightning link in an AR15. It's from the same era as the RDIAS and RLL and the uzi's version of the same resolution to the same problem. The Registered Bolt is considered the "machine gun" part, not the receiver, same as the RDIAS or RLL is considered the "machine gun" part not the semiauto AR15 receiver they're being used in. The registered bolt would have the registered info inscribed on it. ('Whew'... and now for my morning coffee) |
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Posted: 2/1/2012 4:01:24 PM
I ordered my uzi parts kit from Numrich gun parts. I will take pictures of the parts kit to show the condition they arrive in so others can see what they look like before they decide to buy one themselves.
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Posted: 2/1/2012 4:27:22 PM
Back in the day, I paid $800 for this IMI full-auto (conversion by Group Industries) and $150 for the suppressor. $5 for the nomex cover.
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Posted: 2/1/2012 4:27:42 PM
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Originally Posted By cda97:
I ordered my uzi parts kit from Numrich gun parts. I will take pictures of the parts kit to show the condition they arrive in so others can see what they look like before they decide to buy one themselves. Me too. Only, I accidentally pressed twice and ordered two.  Guess I'll have two builds in the works.  |
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Posted: 2/1/2012 5:39:19 PM
Originally Posted By cda97:
I ordered my uzi parts kit from Numrich gun parts. I will take pictures of the parts kit to show the condition they arrive in so others can see what they look like before they decide to buy one themselves. ....standing by. |
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Posted: 2/1/2012 6:36:11 PM
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It just shipped today via UPS so maybe it will arrive this Friday.
Edit: I'm glad that post 5000 was used in the Retro forum. Originally Posted By Engineer5: Originally Posted By cda97: I ordered my uzi parts kit from Numrich gun parts. I will take pictures of the parts kit to show the condition they arrive in so others can see what they look like before they decide to buy one themselves. ....standing by. |
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Posted: 2/1/2012 8:07:03 PM
Originally Posted By uxb:
Back in the day, I paid $800 for this IMI full-auto (conversion by Group Industries) and $150 for the suppressor. $5 for the nomex cover. http://www.fototime.com/689E42F5B783A04/standard.jpg LOL, if you had a more serious expression on your face I would swear that was a scene from "the walking dead" |
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Posted: 2/1/2012 10:34:13 PM
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I like Uzis. Here is my the Vector:
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Posted: 2/1/2012 10:45:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Morg308:
Originally Posted By Garandboy:
I have an IMI Uzi my Wife and I bought each other for a wedding anniversary gift years ago. Love shooting that rifle. Have been thinking of building one since I saw the NoDak receivers. Other projects get in the way. Will do it someday. This year she says we are building a C7 as an anniversary gift so maybe next year. Really? WOmen like that exist? It's true, but they may be more rare than Bigfoot!  |
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Posted: 2/1/2012 11:05:11 PM
That turned out really nice! I used Uluma-Hyde II flat black on my trench gun build and it is holding up well.
Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: I got my long awaited NDS Uzi receiver Monday and began the build! Here is a pictorial of my progress. Raw receiver: http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg141/dab969/DSC01593Medium.jpg With Parts Kit: http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg141/dab969/DSC01595Medium.jpg Retro ALERT> Game Changer > Cheap sling swivel from XM16E1 buttstock: http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg141/dab969/DSC01596Medium.jpg http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg141/dab969/DSC01600Medium.jpg Modified buffer to make slot for cross pin: http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg141/dab969/DSC01603Medium.jpg Installed: http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg141/dab969/DSC01604Medium.jpg Painting the receiver: http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg141/dab969/DSC01605Medium.jpg All done, for now... http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg141/dab969/DSC01606Medium.jpg http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg141/dab969/DSC01608Medium.jpg Here is what I have in it: Numrich SMG Kit $179 NoDak Receiver + FFL Fees $260 D & D IMI bolt group $260 Welding Shop for the grip $10 Paint $10 Sling Swivel $6 Total $725 Not as cheap as a Century or Vector, but it is a pistol. I also have a Vector Carbine that I am waiting for a stamp on. Here is the Vector: http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg141/dab969/DSC01243Medium.jpg |
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Posted: 2/1/2012 11:07:07 PM
A rarity indeed. The wood stock is growing on me and I'm about to buy one to see how I like it.
Originally Posted By jntmjt1: Originally Posted By Morg308: Originally Posted By Garandboy: I have an IMI Uzi my Wife and I bought each other for a wedding anniversary gift years ago. Love shooting that rifle. Have been thinking of building one since I saw the NoDak receivers. Other projects get in the way. Will do it someday. This year she says we are building a C7 as an anniversary gift so maybe next year. Really? WOmen like that exist? It's true, but they may be more rare than Bigfoot! http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Capture-1.jpg |
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Posted: 2/1/2012 11:48:35 PM
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Oh yeah, if you build a pistol, 922r can suck a barrel! 922r only applies to shotguns and rifles.
My Uzi pistol only has an American receiver and trunion! |
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Posted: 2/2/2012 8:24:03 AM
The wood stock is waaaaaay more comfortable IMHO.
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Posted: 2/2/2012 9:08:41 AM
Sorry if this is dumb but what determines if it's a pistol or carbine? Just the fact that it has no stock. What happens if you add a flip stock or a wood stock.....then it's a carbine?
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Posted: 2/2/2012 9:24:14 AM
Like any other receiver you purchase (AR,AK, etc) it is logged out as "other" on the 4473.
You determine what configuration to build it in when you get it home. If you build it as a rifle first, it is always a rifle. If you build it a pistol first, ATF will allow it to be configured as a rifle at a later date. (16"+ barrel and stock) Not legal advise, YMMV. |
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Posted: 2/2/2012 10:21:42 AM
I just found a great source for a wood stock at a great price.
http://www.keepshooting.com/uzi-wooden-stock.html Originally Posted By mike_nds: The wood stock is waaaaaay more comfortable IMHO. |
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Posted: 2/2/2012 4:29:12 PM
You all make me want an UZI
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Posted: 2/2/2012 4:37:15 PM
It happens to the best of us.
 Originally Posted By BenC: You all make me want an UZI |
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Posted: 2/2/2012 5:12:04 PM
 
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Posted: 2/2/2012 5:16:30 PM
Ok, as far as I can tell, to convert a grip frame to semi-auto you need to block the selector from going to the 'auto' position and install a semi-auto sear. Big question, where are you guys getting the semi-auto sears?
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Posted: 2/2/2012 5:25:41 PM
D and D sales benson AZ
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