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Posted: 4/12/2011 10:28:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Joescuba:
http://i56.tinypic.com/mj0o7n.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/ng7sjd.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/2aak0f8.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/2chw8ox.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/69fdli.jpg Is the 1911 a Remington Rand? Also, what is the revolver? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2011 4:21:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Originally Posted By Joescuba:
http://i56.tinypic.com/mj0o7n.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/ng7sjd.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/2aak0f8.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/2chw8ox.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/69fdli.jpg Is the 1911 a Remington Rand? Also, what is the revolver? Yes its a Remington Rand. The other is a S&W 38 Special with 5 inch barrel. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2011 8:07:37 PM EDT
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French pruduced PP 22lr Swedish contract Pistol. British contract Walther PP 22 lr and British contract Walther PPK. Both the Walther PPk and Walther PP have the accetance stamp of the German Materials Testing Agency of the federal Ministry of Defense (eagle with hanging wing).
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MS, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2011 2:09:11 AM EDT
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Dang, I need to post a pick of my retro: 1983 vintage S&W 12+1model 469 9mm. It is actually my carry weapon. I shot a factory sample of the 469 in about 1981 or 1982 when I was a Police armorer and rangemaster. Fell in love with the little gun, and bought one when the released them. It was stolen in the 1990s, and I finally found an almost mint one to replace it, and bought it.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2011 5:06:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ltcboy]
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Posted: 4/14/2011 7:14:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OlGunner]
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Originally Posted By ltcboy:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ltcboy/Springfield%201911/?albumview=slideshow try this one (Fixified it fer ya.) Oh, and welcome to the forum! Nice SA! |
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Posted: 4/14/2011 7:26:56 PM EDT
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My only retro sidearm, an Ithaca and the Enger-Kress Shoulder holster that came with it.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2011 8:03:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SandWMandP15Tee]
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Here's one for ya !
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2011 8:06:40 PM EDT
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Here's a Baby for you too !
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Posted: 4/14/2011 8:58:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SandWMandP15Tee:
Here's one for ya !http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz95/VictorCastle/Colt1903A.jpg I love, love, love those old Colt Automatics! 
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Posted: 4/14/2011 11:21:42 PM EDT
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Man, what a great thread!
I look at these pics and think:
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2011 11:42:57 AM EDT
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I only have one retro side arm at the moment. I always wanted a Colt 1911 so on my 21st birthday I went to the gun shop, came across the 1918 Black Army replica and snatched it up. The guy threw in a free drink too.
I threw together a couple of retro photo collage things to practice my "prop" making skills and my photography skills. I was going for the ATF theme using 1918 period items. I kind of doubt they had Sazerac Rye back then but, the bottle looked the part. Everything else you see in the picture is "fake". There's not a single real vintage piece in there. 
This one is more WW2 inspired. A proper WW2 era pistol is on my "to buy/build" list. The cartridge box in this picture is the real deal, head stamped 1942. 
I'd really love to get my hands on a 1911 from 1911. I'm also on the watch for a 1900/1902 Colt .38 auto. Not much of a problem finding so much as it is funding. 
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Posted: 4/15/2011 11:59:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SandWMandP15Tee:
Here's one for ya !http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz95/VictorCastle/Colt1903A.jpg I would slap my mother for that, and she would understand! Beautiful pistol pard! |
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Posted: 6/9/2011 12:06:50 AM EDT
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....just to keep this out of the archives.
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Posted: 6/9/2011 12:47:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
....just to keep this out of the archives. This thread won't drop into the archives. I toggled it so it will not disappear. 
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Posted: 6/9/2011 12:50:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By coctailer:
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
....just to keep this out of the archives. This thread won't drop into the archives. I toggled it so it will not disappear. Thank you, coctailer! You're the coolest, underspoken (is that a word? ) moderator ever!
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2011 1:30:37 AM EDT
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Does this count?
1918 dated DWM. Has a Nazi eagle stamped on the rear, which makes it an early Nazi training pistol. Sadly, so pitted that I had to have it restored a bit. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/9/2011 8:58:14 PM EDT
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A Vietnam bring back 1967 Russian Makarov.
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Posted: 6/10/2011 12:43:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2011 1:04:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: OlGunner]
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Originally Posted By uxb:
http://www.fototime.com/50A55411C734517/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/6623F8D7AF727B2/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/3B05A24C436697B/standard.jpg Ever shoot that thing, uxb? That's wild! Nicest example I've ever seen. Is there a source for ammo any more? |
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Posted: 6/10/2011 1:15:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By OlGunner:
Originally Posted By uxb:
http://www.fototime.com/50A55411C734517/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/6623F8D7AF727B2/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/3B05A24C436697B/standard.jpg Ever shoot that thing, uxb? That's wild! Nicest example I've ever seen. Is there a source for ammo any more? Never been fired, and have no ammo. 
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Posted: 6/10/2011 1:39:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MarkRSims]
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Originally Posted By uxb:
http://www.fototime.com/50A55411C734517/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/6623F8D7AF727B2/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/3B05A24C436697B/standard.jpg A Gyrojet... Now I'm envious... |
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Posted: 6/10/2011 7:17:27 PM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By OlGunner:
Originally Posted By uxb:
http://www.fototime.com/50A55411C734517/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/6623F8D7AF727B2/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/3B05A24C436697B/standard.jpg Ever shoot that thing, uxb? That's wild! Nicest example I've ever seen. Is there a source for ammo any more? Never been fired, and have no ammo.
Gyrojets come up for sale once in awhile with some ammo, but you have to wonder if it would still fire after all these years anyway. |
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Posted: 6/10/2011 9:46:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stevejness:
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By OlGunner:
Originally Posted By uxb:
http://www.fototime.com/50A55411C734517/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/6623F8D7AF727B2/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/3B05A24C436697B/standard.jpg Ever shoot that thing, uxb? That's wild! Nicest example I've ever seen. Is there a source for ammo any more? Never been fired, and have no ammo.
Gyrojets come up for sale once in awhile with some ammo, but you have to wonder if it would still fire after all these years anyway. Sure, but who could resist at least giving it a try??? Hey, you know your next post is 603? |
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Posted: 6/10/2011 10:58:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/11/2011 5:33:51 AM EDT
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From memory –– the pistols taught in the Special Forces Light Weapons Course from the 1960s to circa 1992 at least included:
US weapons M1911A1 GI .38 revolvers (Colt and Smith) From 1986, Beretta M9 Foreign Weapons P-38/P-1 TT-30/TT-33 (yes, there was one TT-30 among the practice weapons, and we had one at 10th Group also. Very rare guns). Browning High Power Webley and Enfield top-break revolvers Beretta M34 (this was phased out at some point) and M51 PM (Makarov) Walther PP/PPK (this was phased out in the eighties) Most of the training guns were beat to within an inch of their lives, but we shot most of them at Range 44. Not much time was spent on pistols in the classroom, a couple days if I recall. Only the US service auto pistols were taught to the detail-strip level. The foreign ones were taught to basic field stripping and function-check level, but there were also written quizzes and tests on parts nomenclature and functioning. In the 1980s we didn't always carry handguns. We did use them for urban CQB though! The groups had foreign weapons in low quantities for sustainment and cross training, the only pistol we had one of for everybody was the .45 (later M9) and BHP. The BHPs were used on longer overseas missions like the Lebanon MTT. A number of guys carried personal sidearms, but if you took one overseas the odds were you couldn't bring it back. The most common personal sidearm was (what else?) the .45. I carried Berettas (before the Army bought 'em) but switched to a CZ-75 because it fits my hands better. It's like a double-action High Power, and the safety locks it in Condition One. What's not to like about that? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/12/2011 5:07:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TexasRifleman]
[#27]
I really think the pistols should be with the Retro ARs.
 Springfield Armory, Inc, M1911A1 GI MilSpec frame with Remington Rand slide. On my NDS-16A1 M16A1-clone.  1968 Buenos Aires Police Dept Belgium-made Browning High Power on my NDS-16A1 XM177E2 clone. |
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Posted: 6/12/2011 8:30:10 PM EDT
[#28]
Loving the submissions, guys!
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WA, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2011 9:42:29 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2011 11:41:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: johnluger]
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OR, USA
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Posted: 6/15/2011 6:21:34 PM EDT
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Retro rimfires: Colt Scout purchased new 1970. Ruger Standard 22 purchased new 1973. Old 8mm Husqvarna (Nagant type) converted to .22LR.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/15/2011 6:29:11 PM EDT
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Here is my submission. It is WW2 capture from a distant uncle of mine. The story of the disfigured trigger guard is the best part of the history.
According to Swift family lore…my uncle looked around a corner somewhere in Europe and saw a German soldier. He held and emptied his M1 around the corner without looking. After he shot, he looked again and all he saw was this bloody P38 laying on the ground…and no soldier to be seen. Unfortunately, I never got to ask this man about the story. But it is family lore and is the story I will pass along with this pistol to my son. Pistol  " target="_blank">
Close up of trigger guard  " target="_blank">
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Posted: 6/16/2011 2:15:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TexasRifleman]
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The M1911A1 is a Remington Rand slide on a SAI GI Milspec.
The BHP is a 1968 Belgian-made Browning for the Buenos Aires PD. The OSS Hi Standard belongs to my boss. As does the period C-ration cigarettes, period Air America Zippo, and 1966 issue of Playboy.         |
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Posted: 7/4/2011 1:25:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TexasRifleman]
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Posted: 7/4/2011 5:56:16 PM EDT
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TexasRifleman now owns this thread. We are not worthy.
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Posted: 7/4/2011 10:40:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Andouille:
TexasRifleman now owns this thread. We are not worthy. Indeed he does! |
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Posted: 7/17/2011 3:56:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TexasRifleman]
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Posted: 7/17/2011 8:10:58 PM EDT
[#38]
That HD looks like it has an aftermarket can on it.
Details, and videos of it being shot please.
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Posted: 7/18/2011 10:08:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TexasRifleman]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
That HD looks like it has an aftermarket can on it. Details, and videos of it being shot please. Yes it does. Please wait for further details. 
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MS, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2011 8:18:44 PM EDT
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BTT more great retro sidearms (lots of browning Hi-powers)
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IL, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2011 7:29:12 AM EDT
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Here are some of mine.
S&W Model 15. A bring back from Vietnam. My Dad "re-captured" it from an NVA soldier who had no further need for it. 
Springfield Armory made 1915 Model of 1911. It's all SA below and has had a Colt slide added during some long ago rebuild. 
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Posted: 8/31/2011 10:17:41 AM EDT
[#42]
Originally Posted By F14ADC:
Here are some of mine. S&W Model 15. A bring back from Vietnam. My Dad "re-captured" it from an NVA soldier who had no further need for it. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x250/Chief_036/DSC00424.jpg?t=1241996621 http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x250/Chief_036/DSC00422.jpg?t=1241996621 Springfield Armory made 1915 Model of 1911. It's all SA below and has had a Colt slide added during some long ago rebuild. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x250/Chief_036/DSC01717.jpg?t=1270757310 Awsome old Smith & Wesson. Thanks very much for sharing that with us, and thank your Dad for his service as well. Ralph |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2011 2:36:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Andouille:
Originally Posted By F14ADC:
Here are some of mine. S&W Model 15. A bring back from Vietnam. My Dad "re-captured" it from an NVA soldier who had no further need for it. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x250/Chief_036/DSC00424.jpg?t=1241996621 http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x250/Chief_036/DSC00422.jpg?t=1241996621 Springfield Armory made 1915 Model of 1911. It's all SA below and has had a Colt slide added during some long ago rebuild. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x250/Chief_036/DSC01717.jpg?t=1270757310 Awsome old Smith & Wesson. Thanks very much for sharing that with us, and thank your Dad for his service as well. Ralph You're very welcome. I've had the S&W for years and have never been able to decide what to do with it. Almost every spring in it is worn out and I would like to replace them. The barrel, as you can imagine has it share of pitting and the cylinder does not match nor the stocks. Dad had the unit armorer replace them. Ralph |
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Posted: 8/31/2011 5:20:51 PM EDT
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Cylinder and stocks look to match up with the rest of the gun pretty well for being non-matching. Something about the old diamond grips just looks right on an old Smith.
I am torn between saying I'd leave it alone, and saying I'd switch out the springs but keep the old ones bagged up and labeled. If the cylinder locks up tight and aligned, think I'd switch out the springs and see how it shoots. You aren't gonna hurt it. While he's still around, do give some thought to getting whatever documentation from your Dad that he may have, and/or a detailed statement as to the facts of the capture. That will greatly increase its value to his heirs. Otherwise, it's just a beat up old Smith, and it is so much more than that. Probably you have already thought of that. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2011 9:50:29 AM EDT
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if it locks up tight no need for new springs in a smith- they last pretty much forever. I've had 1920's era smith's shoot fine and lock up like a vault with original springs. Not that it couldn't handle it fine, but stick with non +p loads. It almost looks like the area on the left side of frame above trigger guard has been scrubbed- this was the area guns of the era would of had USAF markings on them- look under magnification to see if any are present and were buffed off. May be worth sending to smith and wesson for a historical letter.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2011 12:49:55 PM EDT
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OK so here is some more info. The cylinder, crane and stocks all have the same SN as a mid 50s era Model 10. The original crane and cylinder were so badly rusted that the cylinder would only paritialy open,just enough to revolve the cylinder and load one at a time, kinda SAA style. As to the springs the rear sight has zero tension and no clicks when screws are moved. I would just replace the sight but it is the early -2 sight before they relocated the leaf screw. the hand spring is very weak and will not hold the hand against the extractor star. It will work if you hold the muzzle down though. The gun locks up tight enough to use but it's no bank vault anymore. When the gun is at rest the cylinder can be turned clockwise by hand. I think it may be related to the cylinder latch,hand spring or the cylinder itself....probably all three. We still have the six rounds that were in it at the time of capture. I have shot it and it is acceptably accurate given its condition. As to its being an Air Force gun I do not know but the side certainly does look to be scrubed. there is a faint area that could be one of the periods but I can see nothing else. May be worth the letter.
BTW Also captured at the same time was a CHICOM Type 53 carbine which I also have. I haven't fired it though. Ralph |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 6:30:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: imarangemaster]
[#47]
Moved my picture here, since this is the main handgun thread (and there are lots of hi-powers).
I also have a Canadian P51 Hi-Power holster (with external mag pocket) headed my way 
Also got two OD web Beligian double Hi- Power mag pouches headed my way.Liberty Tree Military collectables has them for $10 each. Deal, considering you never see any military Hi-Power mag pouches, except occasional leather ones. LIberty Tree 
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Posted: 9/4/2011 12:22:35 PM EDT
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Can I Play?
http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr62/snowdrop358/P1010712.jpg Top is a 1950's Hi-Power, commercial blue with obligatory walnut grips, alloy follower etc, Middle is an XL47E1, (or Walther PP to you!) dated 1973 and still on limited issue and last but not least, a '73 Military Hi-Power, black plastic grips and lanyard ring, also still on issue. |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 12:29:21 PM EDT
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I couldn't wait until I got it - this is the seller's pic. I should have it soon. It was built supposedly by a Fort Benning armorer for the Army Marksmanship unit. I have no reason to not believe it. I've wanted another 1911 since I sold my last one to pay bills 25 years ago, and decided that turning 50 was as good a reason as any.
 I can't wait to shoot the thing!
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Posted: 9/4/2011 11:04:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Morg308:
I couldn't wait until I got it - this is the seller's pic. I should have it soon. It was built supposedly by a Fort Benning armorer for the Army Marksmanship unit. I have no reason to not believe it. I've wanted another 1911 since I sold my last one to pay bills 25 years ago, and decided that turning 50 was as good a reason as any. I can't wait to shoot the thing!
That is a badass 1911. Well done sir! |
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