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Posted: 1/14/2011 10:41:45 PM
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You may post requests for appraisals of Retro Rifles, parts or associated militaria in this thread. However this is NOT a thread to allow people to slyly offer items for sale here. Please use this thread for honest requests for appraisals, sales may result in a warning on your account, or worse.

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Posted: 1/14/2011 10:49:57 PM
Thanks Aimless. This could possibly be a good thing. Hope bickering is kept to a minimum. Might help bring a little life to retro and introduce some new members to this pretty cool site. Don't forget there is still the retroblackrifle forum also. Now to work on the quality photo thing.
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Posted: 1/15/2011 12:18:21 PM
Thanks Aimless good idear.
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Posted: 1/17/2011 1:27:40 PM
I'm a newb so I don't understand the social complexities of asking for item appraisals on this forum. Only reason I'm asking is because I'm trying to figure out how much money I'd have to offer in order to buy one of these items today - basically I'm asking what the"turn loose of it" price for these itmes would be if some collector is hanging on to them. Sorry if I am in violation of any rules of which I am not aware because I'm a relative outsider. Here's the itmes:

1) A NOS (or excellent condition) A1 profile 20" SAK MP B chrome lined barrel (SACO defense contract replacement barrel for M16A1). Condition like this:





2) What about an A1 profile 20" Colt chrome-line barrel marked "C MP B". Condition same as above:

If I had a bunch of money and wanted either of these items right now, what would one expect to have to pay for the above items 1) and 2)?

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Posted: 1/17/2011 1:55:24 PM
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I sold a C MP B marked barrel in excellent used condition for $310 shipped on 7/12/2010 through GunBroker. I think I got top dollar for it and had listed it with that price because I wasn't in a particular hurry to sell it. By all rights the SAK barrel should be close in price, perhaps slightly less because it's not Colt and there's the kool-aid factor to consider.

ETA: Of course, original barrels are only getting rarer as time goes on. But that was only 6 months ago. I seem to recall seeing other barrels sold around that time in the $250-$275 range, but I haven't been watching barrel prices since then.
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Posted: 1/17/2011 2:04:45 PM
Originally Posted By flatdarkmars:
I sold a C MP B marked barrel in excellent used condition for $310 shipped on 7/12/2010 through GunBroker. I think I got top dollar for it and had listed it with that price because I wasn't in a particular hurry to sell it. By all rights the SAK barrel should be close in price, perhaps slightly less because it's not Colt and there's the kool-aid factor to consider.

ETA: Of course, original barrels are only getting rarer as time goes on. But that was only 6 months ago. I seem to recall seeing other barrels sold around that time in the $250-$275 range, but I haven't been watching barrel prices since then.


Being new to this game and pricing parts recently, I would have to agree. I would say 275 is the tipping point right now for this barrel.

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Posted: 1/17/2011 2:18:53 PM
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There was one identical listed on the EE for $300 and it didn't move very quick. Don't know if still there on not. Would say $300 is top dollar but it would depend on the buyer. Quick sale would probably be less but they are not the easiest item to find. Used one broght $185 recently and it sold very quick. Condition is the key and NOS is about as good as it gets.
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Posted: 1/17/2011 3:37:47 PM
Originally Posted By Cdenmark:
There was one identical listed on the EE for $300 and it didn't move very quick. Don't know if still there on not. Would say $300 is top dollar but it would depend on the buyer. Quick sale would probably be less but they are not the easiest item to find. Used one broght $185 recently and it sold very quick. Condition is the key and NOS is about as good as it gets.


Must have been this one?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=196255277

This auction included the bolt too, but was used.

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Posted: 1/17/2011 4:02:45 PM
If someone is going to buy a barrel for $300 then why not just buy a complete upper for a little more? I would not pay $250 to $300 for a used barrel, they are not rare or hard to come by.
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Posted: 1/17/2011 4:05:01 PM
If you are buying this,I would offer $250 shipped.
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Posted: 1/17/2011 6:33:46 PM
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If someone is going to buy a barrel for $300 then why not just buy a complete upper for a little more? I would not pay $250 to $300 for a used barrel, they are not rare or hard to come by.

I agree on used reto barrels being over priced, but Sarco sold all their NOS barrels pretty quick at $265 plus shipping mostly right here in retroland. Also if you buy an upper for $350-400 you pretty much paid $250-300 for the barrel if you include anything for your time and hassle of shipping out the other parts. Might get a free set of handguards out of the deal. Granted a used retro $300 dollar upper is considered a deal today. We are talking NOS SAK barrels here or Colt C MP B in same condition and chances of finding a complete NOS retro upper are pretty remote although possible, but I also think the price will then go up a little.

Thirtycal, I don't personally mess with gunbroker, I'm talking about the equipment exchange on this forum and I'm with armorer911 offer $250 for the NOS SAK barrel. I'd rather have the SAK than the Colt anyday. They usually shoot a lot better, but they don't say Colt.
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Posted: 1/19/2011 11:55:45 AM
The last upper I sold was a SAK with FA upper attached for something like 280$ shipped ( on RBR ).
I wont be doing that again if barrels alone are worth that much.
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Posted: 1/19/2011 12:13:39 PM

Originally Posted By shrikefan:
How about a tack for this puppy?


Originally Posted By DocMike:
Front page bump. Gotta keep this where people can find this.

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Posted: 1/19/2011 12:57:46 PM
Jhud he was talking a NOS barrel. The $280 was a good price, I was late on that one.
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How much would an A1 stock, pistol grip and handguard set be worth? I'm considering buying an M16A1 kit from APEX when I have the funds for the majority of the parts I need for a carbine build. Obviously I won't need the stock set.
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Posted: 1/25/2011 12:06:13 PM
Hello Aimless & everybody.
I think this is the correct place to discuss the "find" of a rare AR15.
it's about an auction on an Italian site,
http://it.armiusate.it/catalogo/255/Armi-lunghe/id/46459/Armalite-01-223-Remington.html

describing the sale on the commercial market of AR15 SN#124.

This reply is in reference to my thread here:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=524684&page=1

thanks to everybody interested.
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Posted: 1/26/2011 9:35:07 PM
I believe a friend of mine accidentally stumbled across a colt 601 stock at a gun show. He describes it as a mix of green paint and rust color, with no trap door. From his crappy description, I'm guessing 50% of the green paint remains.

How much would such a stock be worth to the 601 collectors on arfcom? I'm going to try and talk him into selling it so he can get what he really wants/needs and so folks here might have a crack at it.
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Posted: 1/27/2011 4:36:01 AM
Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
I believe a friend of mine accidentally stumbled across a colt 601 stock at a gun show. He describes it as a mix of green paint and rust color, with no trap door. From his crappy description, I'm guessing 50% of the green paint remains.

How much would such a stock be worth to the 601 collectors on arfcom? I'm going to try and talk him into selling it so he can get what he really wants/needs and so folks here might have a crack at it.


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Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
How much would an A1 stock, pistol grip and handguard set be worth? I'm considering buying an M16A1 kit from APEX when I have the funds for the majority of the parts I need for a carbine build. Obviously I won't need the stock set.


I can buy A1 stock, grip and handguards for $45 shipped all day in great condition. However, I've seen complete sets sell on here for $65.
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Posted: 1/28/2011 6:59:49 PM
I posted this question on the AR discussion forum and didn't get much of a response. And the response I did get was very negative towards retro parts, with a lot of "junk that old piece of crap and get an A2" kind of BS.

What I have is an original A1-E butt stock with a original never used (black not grey) buffer tube, action spring and a used generic rifle buffer. The stock is in good condition, and from what I can tell has never been re-painted. The buffer tube and spring were still sealed in the packaging.

The guy I bought it all from is a very knowledgeable feller that runs an Army surplus store. He said he picked up a couple dozen or so of these original A1 buffers and springs, unused still in the pack at an auction. So what is this complete stock worth? I don't know a whole lot about A1 parts, especialy originals.
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Posted: 1/28/2011 7:38:55 PM
Assuming that the stock is in good condition (good butt plate, not many scratches, dents, or scuffs), I'd say $60-$65 with the buffer, buffer tube, and spring included.
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Posted: 1/28/2011 8:04:11 PM
I'd say it's in pretty good condition, considering what's it's probably been through. No dents, cracks or scratches. just a few small places where the black has rubbed/flaked off, leaving the brown fiber looking stuff showing. Thanks, that's what I was hoping to hear.
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Posted: 1/30/2011 12:32:16 PM
What is it worth small rubs no cracks?

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