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Posted: 1/12/2011 3:56:05 PM EDT
I'm looking to start a M16A1 clone build, but have no idea what parts I need or where to look for them, please help
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 4:16:27 PM EDT
Apex kit with new barrel

Apex kit with no barrel

Or troll the EE, gunbroker, and search google for the bits & pieces...
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 4:25:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
I'm looking to start a M16A1 clone build, but have no idea what parts I need or where to look for them, please help


What model are you looking to build? Click on model guide and let us know what you want to build.Welcome to retroland.

http://www.retroblackrifle.com/
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 4:28:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By madmanblake:
Apex kit with new barrel

Apex kit with no barrel

Or troll the EE, gunbroker, and search google for the bits & pieces...



This^ + NODAK SPUD

Link Posted: 1/12/2011 4:42:31 PM EDT
I want to build a 603/M16A1, my dad carried one in Nam and thought it would be cool to have one like he carried
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 4:43:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2011 4:45:36 PM EDT by cda97]
You can also go this route for a barrel that has the FSB mounted already.

http://gunthings.com/

Edit: You will need this lower receiver to go with it to look the best.

NDS-16A1
http://nodakspud.com/AR%20Lowers.htm
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 4:48:08 PM EDT
Only if I had $600
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 4:56:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
Only if I had $600


How much are you looking to spend? You can always buy a little at a time.Start off with finding an upper.
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 5:04:09 PM EDT
the kits + a nodak lower is the easiest way, but if you're on a budget, you could do it in steps.
usually buying the hardest to find items first is best but make a list of parts, keep a eye out (live on) the Equipment Exchange, and be ready to pounce on a deal.
lowers and lower parts kit are usually available anytime you want to buy one, but sometimes Nodak runs out,and you have to wait for the next run.
the kits won't last forever, though. keep that in mind.plus with the kits you get a lot of genuine Colt parts.
either way the journey's a big part of the adventure.
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 5:12:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By armorer_91f:
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
Only if I had $600


How much are you looking to spend? You can always buy a little at a time.Start off with finding an upper.


I can spend as much as it takes, just not all at once
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 5:43:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
Originally Posted By armorer_91f:
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
Only if I had $600


How much are you looking to spend? You can always buy a little at a time.Start off with finding an upper.


I can spend as much as it takes, just not all at once

As others have mentioned, you can always hunt for the components piece by piece. For me, it's a lot more fulfilling than buying all (or most) of the correct parts at once.
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 5:48:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2011 5:52:47 PM EDT by Mtn395]
Does Nodak offer the 603/M16A1 uppers?
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 5:49:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:

... it's a lot more fulfilling than buying all (or most) of the correct parts at once.


Form of Retro-BRF foreplay!

Link Posted: 1/12/2011 5:50:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
Does Nodak offer the 603/M16A1 uppers?

Yes.
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 5:52:55 PM EDT
Whats the difference in the A1 and the A2 lowers?
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 5:56:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
Whats the difference in the A1 and the A2 lowers?

The areas around the pivot and takedown pins are reinforced on an A2 lower. Looking at side by side pictures, you'll be able to see the differences.
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 5:56:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2011 5:57:49 PM EDT by 44Echo10]
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
Whats the difference in the A1 and the A2 lowers?


Have a look here... towards the bottom. It's easier to see for yourself than trying to understand an explanation.
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 6:04:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 44Echo10:
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
Whats the difference in the A1 and the A2 lowers?


Have a look here... towards the bottom. It's easier to see for yourself than trying to understand an explanation.


Thanks. What parts should I start with?
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 6:09:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2011 6:11:18 PM EDT by 86HMMWV]
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
What parts should I start with?

For an A1 build, I'd start with finding a barrel (C MP B, C MP C, C MP CHROME BORE), as they are what's drying up the fastest. I'd then go for the upper (C H or C K marked, but supposedly a no forge code upper could be used for an early A1). Everything after that should be rather easy to come by.

Edit for grammar.
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 7:05:59 PM EDT
Sccop this up.
Buy a Nodak lower.
Find a CH/CK or no forge upper.
Swap barrel and all parts to small hole upper and assemble the rest.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=119&t=833882
Link Posted: 1/12/2011 7:38:42 PM EDT
Make a list of parts you need & then get whatever is EXACTLY what's on your list in the order you find it. If you get stuff thinking it will be close enough - you'll wind up swapping parts out & next thing you know you're like the rest of us with 27 builds & the first one's not finished.

Seriously, if you can only spend a little along, keep your eyes out & be patient - you'll find everything you need. Patience is the key.
Link Posted: 1/13/2011 8:43:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Originally Posted By Mtn395:
What parts should I start with?

For an A1 build, I'd start with finding a barrel (C MP B, C MP C, C MP CHROME BORE), as they are what's drying up the fastest. I'd then go for the upper (C H or C K marked, but supposedly a no forge code upper could be used for an early A1). Everything after that should be rather easy to come by.

Edit for grammar.


^^^^^+1!^^^^^^ The barrels are getting harder to find, and will be the most expensive single part. CH or CK upper recievers aren't growing on trees either. But a NoDak Spud A1 upper is a fine alternative. It will also match (color-wise) your NDS lower nicely. The CH/CK may or may not.
If you want it to look really nice, you'll want to get your slipring, mag button, trigger guard, buffer tube, and charging handle re-finished by USAnodizing.
Get a DPMS LRPK and do the "naval jelly" trick on the trigger, bolt stop, pins, etc. Then buy the nicest set of furniture you can find. Any modern BCG will do, as well as modern buffer, spring and tube. Then try to find an A1 ejection port cover in good shape!! Don't forget a set of A1 sights (font and rear). Sling swivels...
Are you sure you can't save up/hock something to raise the $600?

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