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Link Posted: 6/1/2007 11:19:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tgus] [#1]
Here is a 603, 604 and H&R M14






Link Posted: 6/4/2007 1:19:30 PM EDT
[#2]
And a Type 56!?!?!?
Link Posted: 6/4/2007 10:25:34 PM EDT
[#3]

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
And a Type 56!?!?!?

I didn't know if that counted over here! Its a amnesty gun so most like a Vietnam bring back.
Link Posted: 6/5/2007 8:35:15 PM EDT
[#4]

Originally Posted By tgus:

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
And a Type 56!?!?!?

I didn't know if that counted over here! Its a amnesty gun so most like a Vietnam bring back.

Man, I would KILL to have that
Link Posted: 6/6/2007 3:30:29 PM EDT
[#5]

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:

Originally Posted By tgus:

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
And a Type 56!?!?!?

I didn't know if that counted over here! Its a amnesty gun so most like a Vietnam bring back.

Man, I would KILL to have that


That is probably exactly how it got back to the US.
Link Posted: 8/3/2007 10:43:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WrenchDevil6] [#6]
Ok guys, this is my first post here @ AR15 and I thought that I'd post some pix and ask a couple of questions.

First the questions with img(s) linked:  

As you can see, this is my SGW/OLY lower XM15A1 w/X+4 digit serial#  CLICK ME FOR IMAGE.

Have you guys ever seen a selector like this? CLICK ME FOR IMAGE

Is this a Colt upper/barrel? CLICK ME FOR IMAGE

Yes, I know, that flash suppressor is up close and personal.  You really don't know how worn something is until you get all microscopic on its ass.

ANOTHER IMAGE
ANOTHER IMAGE
ANOTHER IMAGE

This weapon was given to me when I returned from Panama(OJC) in 1990.  I grew up in a family full of combat vets WWII/Korea/Vietnam, with even more (uncles) that were in WWII/Vietnam as well.

Anywho, this was either my blood uncle's or one of my extended uncle's rifle.

It's definitely original retro.

Hope that I didn't violate some sacred rite of posting by posting this as my first post.


Link Posted: 8/3/2007 10:53:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Blanco_Diablo] [#7]
That upper is Colt and VERY retro! The barrel is probably a replacement, though. I've never seen an upper that bronze. That is VERY cool!

ETA: For future reference, this particular thread is for real M16/M16A1s. You can post pictures of your personal AR15s in either of the tacked picture threads, or start a new thread.

Welcome to AR15.com!!
Link Posted: 8/5/2007 5:18:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: goden] [#8]

Originally Posted By FITTER:

Originally Posted By mike_nds:
The guy on the right in the banana picture looks very stoned.


Considering the company he's keeping, it's not surprising...



Darryl smoked pot?


Link Posted: 8/10/2007 6:14:42 PM EDT
[#9]
Few pics from Rock Island Arsenal.











Link Posted: 8/10/2007 9:06:23 PM EDT
[#10]
What's the story on 7304 and 7306? Are these belt-fed aircraft mounts?
Link Posted: 8/10/2007 11:34:47 PM EDT
[#11]

Originally Posted By FITTER:
What's the story on 7304 and 7306? Are these belt-fed aircraft mounts?

Have that look for sure.  The Stoner 63 had a gun pod built around it, so one wonders whether or not similar tests were conducted by RIA.  Also could have been special test variants to allow for stress testing.

Do you have any more pictures of the M75 and other automatic grenade launchers in the second to last pic?  Where is this museum?
Link Posted: 8/11/2007 11:22:50 AM EDT
[#12]
Here's the original post here.

The museum is in Rock Island, Illinois, located on the Mississippi.
Link Posted: 8/12/2007 2:10:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Desdinova721] [#13]
What's the story on 6948? I love that furniture.
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 2:56:33 PM EDT
[#14]
Can I play? None of these are my photos--I'm not a vet or anything. I just have some of these saved on my computer because I thought they were interesting pics.
















Link Posted: 8/19/2007 12:20:57 PM EDT
[#15]
height=8
Originally Posted By FITTER:
What's the story on 7304 and 7306? Are these belt-fed aircraft mounts?


For remote controlled planes....  sorry I had to..  .223 is not a suitable round for aircraft.  .30 cals are lacking, and .50's are about the effective minimum, especially for vietnam-modern era jet planes.
Link Posted: 8/19/2007 12:27:07 PM EDT
[#16]

Originally Posted By goden:

Originally Posted By FITTER:

Originally Posted By mike_nds:
The guy on the right in the banana picture looks very stoned.


Considering the company he's keeping, it's not surprising...



Darryl smoked pot?


Yes. Quite often actually, and he said so in his book.

Link Posted: 9/5/2007 11:53:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EagleArmsHBAR] [#17]
The following are pics taken from a Marine (my father) in Kilo Co 3/9 3rd Marines near the DMZ in 1967.


This pic is his flak jacket.  The small hole in the shoulder area is the exit hole of a 7.62 projectile.  He was in the prone position after an ambush and the bullet entered under the flak vest and traveled just outside his body and exited in that spot.


This is a member of K 3/9 wading through water with an M16A1 near Ca Lu.



My dad's M16A1, picture taken at Con Thien.  When he arrived in VN he was issued a NIB M16A1.  There were several Marines trading in M16s for A1s that day.  He said there were horror stories abou the M16, but he never had a problem with the A1.



He also carried an M79 for about three months.  This was pic was taken at Con Thien.


The "new" grenades he was issued.  Both Lemon and Baseball Grenades, pic taken near the Rockpile.


This pic was obviously taken rear the Rockpile before a patrol.


Link Posted: 9/6/2007 10:16:54 AM EDT
[#18]
Nice pics, thanks for sharing. Thanks to your Dad as well, for serving
Link Posted: 10/17/2007 1:13:08 PM EDT
[#19]
found this pic...I hope it  isn't a repost

Link Posted: 10/18/2007 6:25:55 AM EDT
[#20]
Link Posted: 10/20/2007 12:53:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PirateEC] [#21]
Here are some pictures from the US Army Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD.  They have a nice setup there.  The museum isn't huge, but they have a nice collection of firearms.  Outside, they have just about every type of armored vehicle and artillery piece.

Sorry for the poor quality of some of the pics.  They were all taken through glass.

M16A1/M203 (Stoner 63 too)


Link Posted: 10/20/2007 1:05:20 AM EDT
[#22]
Old School M16s







Link Posted: 10/20/2007 1:07:35 AM EDT
[#23]
Another M16A1



M79



The ultimate in retro - M60

Link Posted: 10/20/2007 1:10:49 AM EDT
[#24]
Where was that Pirate?
Link Posted: 10/20/2007 1:13:19 AM EDT
[#25]
Some AKs



A gun nut's heaven



Retro Original Gangsta - Sawed off M1 Carbine with modified A1 G$ grip - Bad Ass!



Link Posted: 10/20/2007 9:31:43 AM EDT
[#26]
Great pics, PirateEC! Thanks for sharing.

I especially liked the ones of the slab-sided Model 601.

Good shot of the AKs, as well. I have a Polytech Legend that looks exactly like that Model 56, although not as worn (safe queen).

(Did you get any pictures of the armor during your visit?)

Link Posted: 10/20/2007 9:48:43 AM EDT
[#27]

Originally Posted By Currahee:
Where was that Pirate?


US Army Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD
Link Posted: 10/20/2007 9:59:02 AM EDT
[#28]

Originally Posted By FITTER:
Great pics, PirateEC! Thanks for sharing.

I especially liked the ones of the slab-sided Model 601.

Good shot of the AKs, as well. I have a Polytech Legend that looks exactly like that Model 56, although not as worn (safe queen).

(Did you get any pictures of the armor during your visit?)



I'm glad you liked them sir.  I did get some pictures of the armor.  I guess it wouldn't be appropriate to post them here, but if there are some particular pieces you are interested in, I could see if I have some shots and I could email you.
Link Posted: 10/21/2007 12:25:03 PM EDT
[#29]
Does anyone have pics of US GIs wearing OD pith helmets?  I have my grandfather's old pith helmet (I think he wore it in Thailand), but I haven't seen them in any photos.
Link Posted: 10/22/2007 5:06:13 PM EDT
[#30]
found some more pics...again, I hope they aren't a repost

Artillerie Inrichtingen( Made in Holland) AR10:



Link Posted: 10/22/2007 5:28:15 PM EDT
[#31]

Originally Posted By Frens:
found some more pics...again, I hope they aren't a repost

Artillerie Inrichtingen( Made in Holland) AR10:

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Nice!

There used to be a whole website about those a couple years back, but I seem to have lost the link. I'm not sure if it even still exists (I believe it was a Dutch site).
Link Posted: 10/25/2007 4:31:39 PM EDT
[#32]
I have made a small mistake, I have learned that I have to post here....

Just a question, are you a little crazy with your price ?

I have received some years ago this one







Nut I am leaving in Switzerland and as I have jsut order an SDI M4 14,5", I was loocking on the AR15france.com for some information and one told me that it's not so common
Link Posted: 10/25/2007 7:01:07 PM EDT
[#33]

Originally Posted By FITTER:

Originally Posted By Frens:
found some more pics...again, I hope they aren't a repost

Artillerie Inrichtingen( Made in Holland) AR10:

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img142.imageshack.us/img142/2039/bez2ar101rp6.th.jpg</a> img142.imageshack.us/img142/5535/bez2ar102oq6.th.jpg</a> img237.imageshack.us/img237/1325/bez2ar15ar101lp7.th.jpg</a>


Nice!

There used to be a whole website about those a couple years back, but I seem to have lost the link. I'm not sure if it even still exists (I believe it was a Dutch site).


Here it is.
Link Posted: 10/25/2007 7:46:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FITTER] [#34]
Thanks for the link, Buck50




Again, pas_007, nice weapon (and great SECOND post, as well).

No mistake at all. It's only that yours is the Real Deal, not merely "in the spirit of" Retro. You've just made a lot of people very jealous!
Link Posted: 10/26/2007 5:37:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 10/28/2007 1:39:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PirateEC] [#36]


?



Quad .30-cals on a T165 mount
Link Posted: 10/28/2007 2:02:41 PM EDT
[#37]




Link Posted: 10/28/2007 2:13:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Link Posted: 10/28/2007 2:22:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Nice pics.

That first one looks like it has an AK-47 magazine. Also, check out the Charles J. Cong ammo pouches...
Link Posted: 10/28/2007 7:55:35 PM EDT
[#40]

Originally Posted By FITTER:
Nice pics.

That first one looks like it has an AK-47 magazine. Also, check out the Charles J. Cong ammo pouches...


Why...How...WTF?? AK mag in an M16?
Link Posted: 10/28/2007 8:03:24 PM EDT
[#41]

Originally Posted By PirateEC:
img265.imageshack.us/img265/8288/96340310fi9.jpg

Quad .30-cals on a T165 mount

What's up with this?  Looks kinda unstable.  The mounting uses the M63 AA base too, which is interesting.
Link Posted: 10/29/2007 5:15:09 AM EDT
[#42]

Originally Posted By Thatguy96:

Originally Posted By PirateEC:
img265.imageshack.us/img265/8288/96340310fi9.jpg

Quad .30-cals on a T165 mount

What's up with this?  Looks kinda unstable.  The mounting uses the M63 AA base too, which is interesting.


It was used in defensive positions in Special Forces camps early in the war.  That's all I know.
Link Posted: 10/29/2007 10:11:26 PM EDT
[#43]

Originally Posted By PirateEC:

Originally Posted By Thatguy96:

Originally Posted By PirateEC:
img265.imageshack.us/img265/8288/96340310fi9.jpg

Quad .30-cals on a T165 mount

What's up with this?  Looks kinda unstable.  The mounting uses the M63 AA base too, which is interesting.


It was used in defensive positions in Special Forces camps early in the war.  That's all I know.

Interesting.  What's the source on these pictures?
Link Posted: 10/31/2007 9:22:09 PM EDT
[#44]

Originally Posted By PirateEC:
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That's a bad-ass picture!  All XM177E2s with 30 round mags, STABO rigs, jungle boots with Panama soles.  Obviously pretty late in the war.  Man, some of those tribesmen (or Nung Chinese?) are so young.  They look like kids.  Again, great pic!
Link Posted: 10/31/2007 10:11:22 PM EDT
[#45]
I could be wrong, but it seems I remember reading somewhere that there were some early attempts in the field to modify AK47 mags for use in the M16. "Why can't WE have a 30 round mag? like them?" led to the early experimental mags. Makes me want to play with one myself. I know SOCOM did the same thing recently in Afghanistan, but with a 7.62x39 chambering, but apparently the feed angle is an issue. Cool photo - really a WTF? kind of photo. I would guess you'd have to add material to the feed lips or bend them closer together to feed 5.56 - IIRC, the difference in overall length of the rounds caused problems. I bet the brass weren't thrilled either.
Link Posted: 10/31/2007 11:13:07 PM EDT
[#46]

Originally Posted By Morg308:
I could be wrong, but it seems I remember reading somewhere that there were some early attempts in the field to modify AK47 mags for use in the M16. "Why can't WE have a 30 round mag? like them?" led to the early experimental mags. Makes me want to play with one myself. I know SOCOM did the same thing recently in Afghanistan, but with a 7.62x39 chambering, but apparently the feed angle is an issue. Cool photo - really a WTF? kind of photo. I would guess you'd have to add material to the feed lips or bend them closer together to feed 5.56 - IIRC, the difference in overall length of the rounds caused problems. I bet the brass weren't thrilled either.


I figured that you could cut down a steel 20 round mag and use the top part, and cut down an AK mag and weld the two together. There wouldn't be much point in doing it, aside from proving it can be done, and maybe even having something unique.
Link Posted: 11/2/2007 2:26:58 PM EDT
[#47]


Dock at U.S. Ambassadors residence Grenada 1983
Link Posted: 11/3/2007 11:08:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PirateEC] [#48]


Link Posted: 11/5/2007 10:33:33 PM EDT
[#49]
How about a vintage Colt Sporter ad.

Link Posted: 11/6/2007 10:33:04 PM EDT
[#50]

Originally Posted By PirateEC:






The first photo is of either RT Idaho or RT Sidewinder from CCN, MACV-SOG, circa 1971 or '72; if it's Idaho, then those are Vietnamese team members.  I think Sidewinder's indig were Yards.  At any rate, the American pictured is One-Zero Lt. Ken Bowra.

The second photo is of One-Zero Bob Graham and one of his Yards from RT Pick of CCS.

Here's a few pics I pulled from Jason Hardy's book, SOG: Team History and Insignia of a Clandestine Army.

Robert Castillo of RT Idaho, CCN, 1971.



RT Idaho practicing immediate action drills at CCN, 1971; the American is One-Zero Frank Pulley.  Note the pointman's custom moderator.



A few more pics of RT Idaho and of the pointman's moderator.



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