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Posted: 4/4/2012 10:36:29 AM
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I have seen a pic of a 173rd airborne guy in front of a hooch and there's a 607 leaning against the sandbags behind him.

ETA: here it is..
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Posted: 4/6/2012 9:55:08 AM
I LOVE this thread!! BTW, when did foregrips start to come into play or is that a more recent phenom?

And a HUGE thanks to all who served and are serving. God bless.
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Posted: 4/21/2012 4:08:48 AM
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Posted: 4/23/2012 6:37:11 PM
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Posted: 5/4/2012 11:47:45 AM
Found this on an SF site and the pic is dated 1966. Is that a 601?


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Posted: 5/4/2012 11:51:29 AM
Originally Posted By LJM:
Found this on an SF site and the pic is dated 1966. Is that a 601?

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l171/Pat95B/MACVSOGFOB2Kontum1966.jpg


Looks like 601 to me. Cool pic!
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Posted: 5/4/2012 1:36:19 PM
I believe it's a 602 - I say that not because of the color of the furniture, but because of the newer style CH and more importantly, it looks like an engraved arrow near the rear sight wheel.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 11:20:17 AM
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Looks like the buttstock is green, they might have just put on new hanguards when the orginal green ones needed replacement. On the charging handle, I bet they updated to the new charging handle because its a better design. GI's do it now, and they did it back then. I think its a 601.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 12:19:25 PM
See, the buttstock doesn't look green to me - I think the minor green tint is just the reflection of green that's around him. Secondly, if it were green, why tape the thing with green tape? There were black 601's of course, but I still think it's a 602. Either way, great pic. I spent much of yesterday going through this thread again. I just wish some pics hadn't been lost due to members changing ISP accounts/photo accts etc.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 2:31:49 PM
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It appears he has removed both of the sling swivels & subsequently used green tape to attach the sling to the front sight tower & somewhere @ the front of the stock assembly.

Looks nice & quiet-like...

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Posted: 5/10/2012 11:15:40 AM
These are really cool pics, sportin the Tiger Camo.
Does anyone what the Government plans on doing for the out of date Colt M16A2's and M4's?
The latest feed says that the M4 will most likely get a facelift or be completely phased out.
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Posted: 5/10/2012 5:07:06 PM
Originally Posted By mamertine160:
These are really cool pics, sportin the Tiger Camo.
Does anyone what the Government plans on doing for the out of date Colt M16A2's and M4's?
The latest feed says that the M4 will most likely get a facelift or be completely phased out.


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Posted: 5/14/2012 1:19:57 PM
Originally Posted By MrM1A1:
Originally Posted By mamertine160:
These are really cool pics, sportin the Tiger Camo.
Does anyone what the Government plans on doing for the out of date Colt M16A2's and M4's?
The latest feed says that the M4 will most likely get a facelift or be completely phased out.


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/PlusONEchick3/capncrunch.jpg


I don't think even the government knows what they are going to do. I believe the M4/M16 platform has not reached the end of useful life and could solider on for decades to come, with or without major or minor upgrades. Special operations forces tend to purchase whatever they wish to use anyway. The best candidate is the FN SCAR series of weapons IMHO. The gov't just needs to ramp up and put these in the supply chain.No change in caliber, so no logistics issues here.
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Posted: 5/14/2012 2:39:10 PM
Originally Posted By M-Forgery:
Originally Posted By MrM1A1:
Originally Posted By mamertine160:
These are really cool pics, sportin the Tiger Camo.
Does anyone what the Government plans on doing for the out of date Colt M16A2's and M4's?
The latest feed says that the M4 will most likely get a facelift or be completely phased out.


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/PlusONEchick3/capncrunch.jpg


I don't think even the government knows what they are going to do. I believe the M4/M16 platform has not reached the end of useful life and could solider on for decades to come, with or without major or minor upgrades. Special operations forces tend to purchase whatever they wish to use anyway. The best candidate is the FN SCAR series of weapons IMHO. The gov't just needs to ramp up and put these in the supply chain.No change in caliber, so no logistics issues here.


The biggest problem with the scar is training the Joes with a new manual of arms. Its hard as hell to teach a new 249 gunner let alone an entirely new weapons platform.
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Posted: 5/15/2012 11:58:26 PM
I don't know about that. 'You WILL learn this' seems to work, of course no boot in the ass these days. Weapons systems are generational things. My main piss and moan is I think it should be law that we use a US desigend and manufactured weapon system. SOF can use whatever they require for their mission, but the standard issue arm should be US made. Otherwise WTF are we about?
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Posted: 5/16/2012 3:06:54 PM
I don't mind using foreign designed stuff. As long as we buy the design, not license, not rent.

Then bid that out to whomever can build it here. No special favors to a US located, foreign owned plant.

Of course, I think the same thing about domestic designs. Buy the design and bid out the manufacturing. Colt's contract in perpetuity for the M16 series being a great example of how we shouldn't be doing it. Does anyone else think it odd that the constitution forbids funding the mil more than two years at a time, but we have a contract with a vendor since 1966?
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Posted: 5/25/2012 3:52:04 PM
Originally Posted By Z09SS:
...I don't mind using foreign designed stuff...


yep, some foreign stuff ain't half bad:

Oh, you prob meant their guns... sorry...
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Posted: 5/25/2012 4:40:31 PM
I found this old "Nam" book at eh library at school, thought I'd share some pics from it. I think the book said the pics were all from around 1965, so the 603's must be E1's.

Nothing advantageous about taking pics of pics from an old '80's book with an iPhone, but there are some good ones in here.

Enjoy!!

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Posted: 5/25/2012 9:00:29 PM
For more on Tim Page, read Dispatches by Michael Herr, or the most excellent The Cat From Hue by John Lawrence. Somebody in Herr's book told Page "there's an airstrike in your future, Page" and he was right. Page did indeed get hisself blown to smithereens in an airstrike, but survived and (more or less) recovered.
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Posted: 5/27/2012 1:04:07 AM
Hopefully this picture came from a MilPhotos thread and not from here, but this might be my favorite M-16 retro pic. 3rd pattern jungles in ERDL on these guys, and some black silent sling love too.

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Posted: 5/28/2012 1:28:45 AM
Originally Posted By Andouille:
For more on Tim Page, read Dispatches by Michael Herr, or the most excellent The Cat From Hue by John Lawrence. Somebody in Herr's book told Page "there's an airstrike in your future, Page" and he was right. Page did indeed get hisself blown to smithereens in an airstrike, but survived and (more or less) recovered.


Dispatches is a good Nam era book. ....I may have to read it again, it's been many years since the last time.
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Posted: 5/28/2012 10:10:22 PM
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From all the photos of that confrontation that I've seen, the XM177E1 seems to have seen fairly good distribution among conventional forces, while every SOF unit and LRRP unit usually had XM177E2's, if we're talking about carbines.

Another cool thing to see is the number of K-9 handlers issued XM177E1's. All the other XM177E1's are almost always in the hands of an officer, or leaned up against his ruck during a halt, as in the pics below.















Check out the frankenmag on this one:


Joe letting loose with an XM177 with the Moderator replaced by a birdcage.


Just when you thought you had seen it all...what mag is this?




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Posted: 5/29/2012 4:49:21 PM
I think it's two 20 rounders welded together
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Posted: 6/7/2012 3:55:57 PM
Originally Posted By Andouille:
For more on Tim Page, read Dispatches by Michael Herr, or the most excellent The Cat From Hue by John Lawrence. Somebody in Herr's book told Page "there's an airstrike in your future, Page" and he was right. Page did indeed get hisself blown to smithereens in an airstrike, but survived and (more or less) recovered.


The story of Tim page and Herr are some of the best reading on Vietnam there is. Fascinating fellas those two. "Dispatches" is a MUST read.

Looks like a movie is in the works on the mysterious dissappearance of Sean Flynn and Dana Stone

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Posted: 6/7/2012 11:21:40 PM
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I think it's two 20 rounders welded RIVETED together


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