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Posted: 11/21/2016 1:45:45 PM EDT
Using a PSA pistol lower, how long should barrel length be?
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Posted: 11/21/2016 2:24:49 PM EDT
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my pistol with a 7 inch barrel + A2 flash hider is under 26 inches, that is with the KAK SUPER SIG SB-15 Pistol Buffer Tube, don't know what your length of buffer tube is. but if it it not more then 8.5 inches, measured from the back of the lower receiver to the end of the tube, you will be good for under 26 inches
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Posted: 11/21/2016 2:46:05 PM EDT
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If Ohio adheres to federal standard, meaning that muzzle device doesn't count unless permanently affixed, a 10.5" barrel with standard length buffer tube like that will be under the 26".
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Posted: 11/21/2016 3:06:04 PM EDT
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If Ohio adheres to federal standard, meaning that muzzle device doesn't count unless permanently affixed, a 10.5" barrel with standard length buffer tube like that will be under the 26". he's "making" a pistol, ohio, like the feds, has no law standard, etc..... regarding how long or short a pistol barrel is, with or without a muzzle attachment. permanently or not permanently attached he's asking how short a barrel he can get to make the pistol OAL under 26 inches. which, I told him, 7 inches. I adding the FH to the OAL because I would think he would want to put one on his pistol. instead of just a naked barrel. my pistol with a 7inch barrel and a standard A2 FH, with the KAK SUPER SIG SB-15 Pistol Buffer Tube attached (8.5 inches) . the OAL is exactly 25 inches. which I is what the OP is wanting to "make", a pistol with a OAL of less then 26 inches. |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 3:13:05 PM EDT
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he's "making" a pistol, ohio, like the feds, has no law regarding how long or short a pistol barrel is, with or without a muzzle attachment. permanently or not permanently attached he's asking how short a barrel he can get to make the pistol OAL under 26 inches. which, I told him, 7 inches. I adding the FH to the OAL because I would think he would want to put one on his pistol. instead of just a naked barrel. my pistol with a 7inch barrel and a standard A2 FH, with the KAK SUPER SIG SB-15 Pistol Buffer Tube attached (8.5 inches) . the OAL is exactly 25 inches. which I believe is what the OP is wanting to "make" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Ohio adheres to federal standard, meaning that muzzle device doesn't count unless permanently affixed, a 10.5" barrel with standard length buffer tube like that will be under the 26". - OS he's "making" a pistol, ohio, like the feds, has no law regarding how long or short a pistol barrel is, with or without a muzzle attachment. permanently or not permanently attached he's asking how short a barrel he can get to make the pistol OAL under 26 inches. which, I told him, 7 inches. I adding the FH to the OAL because I would think he would want to put one on his pistol. instead of just a naked barrel. my pistol with a 7inch barrel and a standard A2 FH, with the KAK SUPER SIG SB-15 Pistol Buffer Tube attached (8.5 inches) . the OAL is exactly 25 inches. which I believe is what the OP is wanting to "make" Okay, my bad. I assumed there was some legal reason he cared, and since he shows Ohio, thought it had to do with his state law. So then my question is, OP, why do you care? - OS |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 3:24:51 PM EDT
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Okay, my bad. I assumed there was some legal reason he cared, and since he shows Ohio, thought it had to do with his state law. So then my question is, OP, why do you care? - OS Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Ohio adheres to federal standard, meaning that muzzle device doesn't count unless permanently affixed, a 10.5" barrel with standard length buffer tube like that will be under the 26". - OS he's "making" a pistol, ohio, like the feds, has no law regarding how long or short a pistol barrel is, with or without a muzzle attachment. permanently or not permanently attached he's asking how short a barrel he can get to make the pistol OAL under 26 inches. which, I told him, 7 inches. I adding the FH to the OAL because I would think he would want to put one on his pistol. instead of just a naked barrel. my pistol with a 7inch barrel and a standard A2 FH, with the KAK SUPER SIG SB-15 Pistol Buffer Tube attached (8.5 inches) . the OAL is exactly 25 inches. which I believe is what the OP is wanting to "make" Okay, my bad. I assumed there was some legal reason he cared, and since he shows Ohio, thought it had to do with his state law. So then my question is, OP, why do you care? - OS Ohio carry permit specifies pistol. Isn't a pistol larger than 26"oal then just considered a "firearm"? |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 3:29:44 PM EDT
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Ohio carry permit specifies pistol. Isn't a pistol larger than 26"oal then just considered a "firearm"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Ohio adheres to federal standard, meaning that muzzle device doesn't count unless permanently affixed, a 10.5" barrel with standard length buffer tube like that will be under the 26". - OS he's "making" a pistol, ohio, like the feds, has no law regarding how long or short a pistol barrel is, with or without a muzzle attachment. permanently or not permanently attached he's asking how short a barrel he can get to make the pistol OAL under 26 inches. which, I told him, 7 inches. I adding the FH to the OAL because I would think he would want to put one on his pistol. instead of just a naked barrel. my pistol with a 7inch barrel and a standard A2 FH, with the KAK SUPER SIG SB-15 Pistol Buffer Tube attached (8.5 inches) . the OAL is exactly 25 inches. which I believe is what the OP is wanting to "make" Okay, my bad. I assumed there was some legal reason he cared, and since he shows Ohio, thought it had to do with his state law. So then my question is, OP, why do you care? - OS Ohio carry permit specifies pistol. Isn't a pistol larger than 26"oal then just considered a "firearm"? Thought it might be something like that. The answer is no. Under federal rulings, the "firearm" designation comes into play with a 26" or more handgun only when a vertical forward grip is attached. And reverts to "handgun" when the VFG is removed. - OS |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 4:35:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thought it might be something like that. The answer is no. Under federal rulings, the "firearm" designation comes into play with a 26" or more handgun only when a vertical forward grip is attached. And reverts to "handgun" when the VFG is removed. - OS Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If Ohio adheres to federal standard, meaning that muzzle device doesn't count unless permanently affixed, a 10.5" barrel with standard length buffer tube like that will be under the 26". - OS he's "making" a pistol, ohio, like the feds, has no law regarding how long or short a pistol barrel is, with or without a muzzle attachment. permanently or not permanently attached he's asking how short a barrel he can get to make the pistol OAL under 26 inches. which, I told him, 7 inches. I adding the FH to the OAL because I would think he would want to put one on his pistol. instead of just a naked barrel. my pistol with a 7inch barrel and a standard A2 FH, with the KAK SUPER SIG SB-15 Pistol Buffer Tube attached (8.5 inches) . the OAL is exactly 25 inches. which I believe is what the OP is wanting to "make" Okay, my bad. I assumed there was some legal reason he cared, and since he shows Ohio, thought it had to do with his state law. So then my question is, OP, why do you care? - OS Ohio carry permit specifies pistol. Isn't a pistol larger than 26"oal then just considered a "firearm"? Thought it might be something like that. The answer is no. Under federal rulings, the "firearm" designation comes into play with a 26" or more handgun only when a vertical forward grip is attached. And reverts to "handgun" when the VFG is removed. - OS This. OP, there is no need to maintain an OAL under 26" in Ohio to be considered a "handgun". Ohio law defines a "handgun" as: |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 7:48:41 PM EDT
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Ohio carry permit specifies pistol. Isn't a pistol larger than 26"oal then just considered a "firearm"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Ohio adheres to federal standard, meaning that muzzle device doesn't count unless permanently affixed, a 10.5" barrel with standard length buffer tube like that will be under the 26". - OS he's "making" a pistol, ohio, like the feds, has no law regarding how long or short a pistol barrel is, with or without a muzzle attachment. permanently or not permanently attached he's asking how short a barrel he can get to make the pistol OAL under 26 inches. which, I told him, 7 inches. I adding the FH to the OAL because I would think he would want to put one on his pistol. instead of just a naked barrel. my pistol with a 7inch barrel and a standard A2 FH, with the KAK SUPER SIG SB-15 Pistol Buffer Tube attached (8.5 inches) . the OAL is exactly 25 inches. which I believe is what the OP is wanting to "make" Okay, my bad. I assumed there was some legal reason he cared, and since he shows Ohio, thought it had to do with his state law. So then my question is, OP, why do you care? - OS Ohio carry permit specifies pistol. Isn't a pistol larger than 26"oal then just considered a "firearm"? Look in your state law definitions. BATF is federal. |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 10:22:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/21/2016 11:44:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm thinking something very similar to this. 
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Posted: 11/22/2016 12:53:08 AM EDT
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11" or less barrel should make it under 26"
I have an AR pistol with 11 1/2" barrel and Phase 5 pistol buffer tube it measures 25 15/16" without muzzle brake. |
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Posted: 11/22/2016 1:03:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryDo you like your hearing as it is? That thing would be brutal without good earpro. I was shocked at how much less blast and general noise my 8.5" 300BLK had compared to a friend's X95...he was too actually. I have 3 11.5"-12.5" 5.56 SBR's and they are rather loud. 
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Posted: 11/22/2016 9:06:21 AM EDT
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Do you like your hearing as it is? That thing would be brutal without good earpro. I was shocked at how much less blast and general noise my 8.5" 300BLK had compared to a friend's X95...he was too actually. I have 3 11.5"-12.5" 5.56 SBR's and they are rather loud. https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wqis2o6yrajqb5n/2016-10-04 21.50.19.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
Do you like your hearing as it is? That thing would be brutal without good earpro. I was shocked at how much less blast and general noise my 8.5" 300BLK had compared to a friend's X95...he was too actually. I have 3 11.5"-12.5" 5.56 SBR's and they are rather loud. https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wqis2o6yrajqb5n/2016-10-04 21.50.19.jpg So, double up with plugs and muffs? My 14.5 with Rainier Arms rac really barks too. Will the 7" throw some good fireballs? |
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Posted: 11/22/2016 10:34:01 AM EDT
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With my lower with a PSA tube my 11.5" barreled pistol was 26 1/4" without the muzzle device.
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Posted: 11/22/2016 11:32:39 AM EDT
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So, double up with plugs and muffs? My 14.5 with Rainier Arms rac really barks too. Will the 7" throw some good fireballs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you like your hearing as it is? That thing would be brutal without good earpro. I was shocked at how much less blast and general noise my 8.5" 300BLK had compared to a friend's X95...he was too actually. I have 3 11.5"-12.5" 5.56 SBR's and they are rather loud. https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wqis2o6yrajqb5n/2016-10-04 21.50.19.jpg So, double up with plugs and muffs? My 14.5 with Rainier Arms rac really barks too. Will the 7" throw some good fireballs? I would double up just like I do on my 14" 308 with a pinned brake. Even with doubled earpro I honestly hate shooting that rifle. If there is ever a chance you may have to shoot without earpro I would rethink going with the 7" barrel. I have shot a 16" 5.56 in a concrete room once without earpro and it SUCKED! I can't even imagine what a 7" would be like 
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Posted: 11/22/2016 3:36:18 PM EDT
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I can't even imagine what a 7" would be like it's awesomely LOUD! and when I change out the FH to a AK74 brake made to thread on the AR threads, it's even LOUDER!!!!!!!! 
and the fire ball coming from the front and sides of the brake, just makes it that much better 
you don't need to spend 200 buks for a tax to make it as loud as you can
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Posted: 11/22/2016 3:37:31 PM EDT
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it's awesomely LOUD! and when I change out the FH to a AK74 brake made to thread on the AR threads, it's even LOUDER!!!!!!!!
and the fire ball coming from the front and sides of the brake, just makes it that much better Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't even imagine what a 7" would be like it's awesomely LOUD! and when I change out the FH to a AK74 brake made to thread on the AR threads, it's even LOUDER!!!!!!!!
and the fire ball coming from the front and sides of the brake, just makes it that much better Sorry but loud is stupid and you can't fix hearing damage. |
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Posted: 11/22/2016 3:40:08 PM EDT
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Sorry but loud is stupid and you can't fix hearing damage. that is why they invented hearing protection |
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Posted: 11/30/2016 9:51:24 PM EDT
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The Kaw Valley linear compensator really works. 
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Posted: 12/1/2016 12:36:36 AM EDT
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http://<a href=http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww172/bomber_man_jj/IMG_20161128_201030.jpg</a>" /> The Kaw Valley linear compensator really works. Yes they do. |
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