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Posted: 9/23/2015 3:38:49 AM EDT
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I suspect they are fine as there are manufacturers that add them to their pistols for sale. I as many have seen 100's of sbr's with handstops. They are not considered a forward grip yet just another step in the safety of the owner.
Put a light on the end of the weapon, that will stop your hand 
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Posted: 9/23/2015 9:35:41 AM EDT
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SIG ships the MPX with one (not an AR pistol, but same idea). So does CZ on the Scorpion.
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Posted: 9/23/2015 11:27:21 AM EDT
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Whatever you do don't grip it like a VFG or you'll be redesigning it
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Posted: 9/23/2015 4:08:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whatever you do don't grip it like a VFG or you'll be redesigning it |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 5:33:50 PM EDT
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As long as its not a VFG. I use a Naroh Arms MLOK finger stop on my pistol.
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Posted: 9/23/2015 8:09:29 PM EDT
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Think about the fact that you have a HANDguard on the pistol...
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Posted: 9/23/2015 8:45:28 PM EDT
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Or an AF Grip
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Posted: 9/23/2015 8:54:11 PM EDT
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send an inquiry letter to the ATF, + another letter asking if they answered your first one yet.
you already acknowledged AFGs are legal, how is a handstop any different other than being horizontal... which means it's not vertical? |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 9:05:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: send an inquiry letter to the ATF, + another letter asking if they answered your first one yet. you already acknowledged AFGs are legal, how is a handstop any different other than being horizontal... which means it's not vertical? |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 9:37:47 PM EDT
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If your receiver was built as an "other" and the OAL is 26" put whatever you like on it.
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Posted: 9/24/2015 12:18:44 PM EDT
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IF the receiver was built as an "other" then it's not a pistol, which the OP specified.
I haven't seen anything about a handstop being a problem on a PISTOL as long as you can't grip it vertically. I'm using B5 "barrel guards with a forward projection." I'm not the ATF and I haven't stayed in a HE but I get the impression that if it's no deeper than a one finger engagement it's ok. Two fingers and you are skating on thin ice.
Then there is the issue with it being a 10.5" barrel typically. Nobody is going to get full extension with a locked elbow on it like a 3Gunner. It's going to take a completely different hold. If you are holding onto the barrel not magwell then getting your hand out in front of the stop isn't likely. And if you don't have your hand on it when you pull the trigger getting your off hand shot could happen. A handstop is just a reference, not a guaranteed safety device. |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 12:54:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
IF the receiver was built as an "other" then it's not a pistol, which the OP specified. ..... A receiver ("other firearm") becomes a pistol or rifle when it is configured as such. A pistol with OAL of 26" or more is still a pistol. It only becomes a non-NFA firearm (neither pistol nor rifle) when a vertical forward grip is attached; remove the VFG, it is magically a pistol again. Remove the barrel, and it becomes a receiver, or "other firearm" again, though how it was originally configured determines legality of ongoing configuration. - OS |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 1:00:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A handstop is just a reference, not a guaranteed safety device. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 11:46:04 AM EDT
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If you're nervous you could always use this. It's not a handstop (despite the fact that it's perfectly usable as such), it's a combination sling mount/bottle opener (tactical beverage entry device, if you prefer).
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Posted: 9/27/2015 4:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SIG ships the MPX with one (not an AR pistol, but same idea). So does CZ on the Scorpion. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 8:09:41 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'm just not seeing the issue here. If you stuck a stubby VFG on there and tried to pass it off as a handstop you'd probably have problems, but legit handstops can accomodate maybe a thumb and fingertip, at best.
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Posted: 9/27/2015 9:07:22 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'm just not seeing the issue here. If you stuck a stubby VFG on there and tried to pass it off as a handstop you'd probably have problems, but legit handstops can accomodate maybe a thumb and fingertip, at best. Hell, nobody has ever been convicted for using an actual VFG on a pistol either, FWIW. It's just another ATF interpretation that has never been verified as legit by case law. - OS |
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Posted: 9/29/2015 9:10:24 PM EDT
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Hell, nobody has ever been convicted for using an actual VFG on a pistol either, FWIW. It's just another ATF interpretation that has never been verified as legit by case law. - OS Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, I'm just not seeing the issue here. If you stuck a stubby VFG on there and tried to pass it off as a handstop you'd probably have problems, but legit handstops can accomodate maybe a thumb and fingertip, at best. Hell, nobody has ever been convicted for using an actual VFG on a pistol either, FWIW. It's just another ATF interpretation that has never been verified as legit by case law. - OS True dat. On most everything. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..... 
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Posted: 9/29/2015 11:40:55 PM EDT
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I'm aware the AFG is legal on an AR piatol. I'm wondering about a handstop? It would make sense that if an AFG is legal, handstops definitely would be. I want to make sure to keep my hand/fingers from being blown off from a hand in front of the muzzle accident. Any ideas on the legality of handstops? Handstops are fine, and recommended. Something to keep your hand from slipping off the handguards is very important. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 6:01:36 PM EDT
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On my BCM rifle I put the Midwest industries key-mod panel kit because the texture matches the texture on the BCM grip. I'm in the process of building a 300 Black BCM pistol and I'll use the same Midwest kit. To me I like it because where I place my hands as far as the texture goes all feels the same on both hands. The kit is around $18 and the handstop alone is about $6.
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