How to Keep the Buffer Tube from Hitting You in the Mouth?

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Posted: 8/30/2015 5:25:53 PM EDT

I just finished my AR pistol build. When I held it up to sight down the barrel I realized that if I fired it, that buffer tube was probably going to smack me in the mouth! I haven't put sights on it yet but was thinking of a red dot with Iron backup sights. What do you think about getting a bloody mouth from shooting the thing?

John

Posted: 8/30/2015 5:29:51 PM EDT

[#1]

You could slide a sig brace or some other type of shooting aid on the tube. You could also pay $200, get a stamp, slide a stock on the end and then post in the sbr forum.

Posted: 8/30/2015 5:41:08 PM EDT

[#2]

Does the butt of a rifle smack you when you shoot one? Same idea with the pistol, only there's no stock against your shoulder.

Posted: 8/30/2015 6:19:43 PM EDT

[#3]

Mine doesn't and I have a 7.62x39 I just rest my cheek on the buffer tube pad they have on the phase 5 assembly.

Posted: 8/30/2015 7:36:49 PM EDT

[#4]

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I just finished my AR pistol build. When I held it up to sight down the barrel I realized that if I fired it, that buffer tube was probably going to smack me in the mouth! I haven't put sights on it yet but was thinking of a red dot with Iron backup sights. What do you think about getting a bloody mouth from shooting the thing?

John

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Are you holding the pistol in an isosceles stance, both hands out in front of you?

Posted: 8/30/2015 8:27:44 PM EDT

[#5]

I would just place one of these on the buffer tube and then use a cheek hold as drok556 mentioned.

Pistol buffer tube cover

I have no problems shooting my 5.56 or 300 blackout AR pistols this way.

Posted: 8/30/2015 8:33:08 PM EDT

[#6]

Google one of the many youtube videos about shooting AR pistols and see what people are doing. Generally you push against a sling, shoving the rifle out in front of you, and rest your cheek on the buffer tube but only to guide the eye. Recoil is absorbed by the arms. A red dot is a great idea but you can be effective with irons, too.

Posted: 8/30/2015 8:48:41 PM EDT

[#7]

You can hold the butt of a M16 against your mouth and shoot it, won't get a bloody lip.

There was actually a mouth retention device for the pistol to do exactly that. There's video on youtube.

The recoil of the weapon goes straight back. It's entirely the point of the action - a straight line stock. It's the dropped stock of a manual action gun that rotates at the contact point and rises up. Some more than others. While some complain about recoil, they keep shooting stuff like .338 Win Mag - and don't get a bloody lip. Barrett .50BMG?

Some of us have been shooting M16's and the like for decades. We've learned to worry about getting a bloody lip from our teammate in front of us. It's one good reason to keep 10m separation in heavy brush.

Posted: 8/30/2015 9:11:19 PM EDT

[#8]

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Posted: 8/31/2015 9:14:23 AM EDT

[#9]

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You can hold the butt of a M16 against your mouth and shoot it, won't get a bloody lip.

There was actually a mouth retention device for the pistol to do exactly that. There's video on youtube.

The recoil of the weapon goes straight back. It's entirely the point of the action - a straight line stock. It's the dropped stock of a manual action gun that rotates at the contact point and rises up. Some more than others. While some complain about recoil, they keep shooting stuff like .338 Win Mag - and don't get a bloody lip. Barrett .50BMG?

Some of us have been shooting M16's and the like for decades. We've learned to worry about getting a bloody lip from our teammate in front of us. It's one good reason to keep 10m separation in heavy brush.

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Haha right. I have a nice scar from the shell going down my sleeve from laying to close to the guy next to me.

Op it's a valid concern but you'll be fine, the ar doesn't have a harsh kick anyway

Posted: 9/2/2015 6:55:58 AM EDT

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Posted: 9/2/2015 7:37:00 AM EDT

[#11]

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You can hold the butt of a M16 against your mouth and shoot it, won't get a bloody lip.

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I was thinking the same thing....None of my AR's have anything remotely close to what I call recoil.

Posted: 9/2/2015 4:48:54 PM EDT

[#12]

An angled foregrip is your friend. You put forward pressure into the pistol grip, rearward with the AFG, gun is solid. No issues with my 300bo.

Posted: 9/3/2015 12:44:26 AM EDT

[#13]

Mount it to your cheek, recoil is no problem... unless maybe you've got one in .458 SOCOM or .50 Beowulf.

Posted: 9/3/2015 7:48:21 AM EDT

[#14]

Cheek weld.

Posted: 9/3/2015 9:21:43 AM EDT

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Posted: 9/3/2015 11:52:49 AM EDT

[#16]

Thanks for that video. Guy shooting a man sized target at 100m with an AR pistol and hitting it.

It can be done.

No stock necessary.

Expect many links in the future.

Posted: 9/3/2015 11:55:58 AM EDT

[#17]

dbl post Win 8

Posted: 9/3/2015 1:33:48 PM EDT

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Cheek weld.

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That's how I shoot mine. You just can't really do the "nose to charging handle" comfortably though. On some of mine it just kinda rubs my nose, but I have one that has wicked recoil. After I played with the cheek weld method (pictured) it is as natural as shooting a rifle.

Posted: 9/5/2015 10:00:12 PM EDT

[#19]

Nose to charging handle

Posted: 9/7/2015 2:35:29 PM EDT

[#20]

I use this and it is great. The only problem it has two battery compartments and the compressed lids do not stay on. I drilled and put a pin in it works great.
http://www.thordsencustoms.com/ar-ak-enhanced-pistol-cheek-rest-kit-w-mft-saddle-flat-dark-earth/
Not alot of weight. I had a sig brace and it is good but very heavy.

Posted: 9/7/2015 5:25:07 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
I just finished my AR pistol build. When I held it up to sight down the barrel I realized that if I fired it, that buffer tube was probably going to smack me in the mouth! I haven't put sights on it yet but was thinking of a red dot with Iron backup sights. What do you think about getting a bloody mouth from shooting the thing?

John

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Sorry but...

You're doing it wrong.

Posted: 9/10/2015 5:08:23 PM EDT

[#22]

ETA: Seriously though, I use the two-point sling method. Push forward on the grip to maintain tension on the sling, cheek rest on the tube. Provides all the stability I need and puts the sights on line. I have a strong distaste for the brace fad, unnecessary and ugly. Plus, they poke the NFA a little too much, sooner or later bad things may come of it.

Posted: 9/10/2015 6:17:27 PM EDT

[#23]

Just shoulder it unintentionally.

SIG brace makes it real easy to shoulder. Unintentionally.

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