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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:55:39 AM EDT
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If it's something you've always wanted, then don't let anyone else tell you that it's silly. There is nothing wrong with a 12" stick
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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:58:46 AM EDT
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If it's something you've always wanted, then don't let anyone else tell you that it's silly. There is nothing wrong with a 12" stick Yeah that's what I'm thinking...and I've handled 11.5-12" SBRs and they felt awesome. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:59:59 AM EDT
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No barrel length is silly as long as you know what it (bbl length) means in terms of performance and reliability.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 12:00:17 PM EDT
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Better terminal ballistics than a 10.5'' and seeing as most people use a KX3/5 or KAK Flash Can, there's no difference in OAL with a typical A2 flash hider.
I went from 10.5 to 12'' |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 12:15:38 PM EDT
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Or is there something to them? I've always wanted a 12" gun. Always seemed to be almost the perfect size. I think I'm going to do a pistol first and if I like it I'll probably go the SBR route with it. Is it silly? Anyone do one? if i were walking around in an open pasture all day i would choose a 20" barrel, but that same rifle would be "silly" inside a car, or the hallways in my house. you see how that works? to most a firearm is a tool, different jobs / situations call for different tools. a 12" pistol is no more silly than a 9/16 socket, or a ball peen hammer to the man who needs it. in other words equip your toolbox with the tools you will use. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 12:36:45 PM EDT
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Yes, should be a 7.5in.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 12:40:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, should be a 7.5in.  |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 1:08:05 PM EDT
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It's silly to get a barrel length you don't really want... you have your reasons for wanting a 12".
Not sure of 12" pricing, but hopefully it doesn't come at a premium. If you can find a 4" muzzle device, you could always pin it and skip the SBR paperwork. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 1:20:24 PM EDT
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And why pray tell do you say that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, should be a 7.5in. More fire is more better!   
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Posted: 9/22/2014 1:26:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's silly to get a barrel length you don't really want... you have your reasons for wanting a 12". Not sure of 12" pricing, but hopefully it doesn't come at a premium. If you can find a 4" muzzle device, you could always pin it and skip the SBR paperwork. Also, if you're going to have the length of a 16" bbl you might as well have the rifling of a 16" bbl. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 1:30:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More fire is more better! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, should be a 7.5in. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 2:15:44 PM EDT
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My 5.56 pistol is a 11.5 and I love it.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 2:43:33 PM EDT
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My 5.56 pistol is a 11.5 and I love it. I have the same perfect length, I hardly ever use my rifle anymore now that the sig brace came out. The ATF is stupid they should do away with SBRs all together. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 3:07:23 PM EDT
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Yeah it seems I've read a few opinions on it saying that a pistol with a 12" bbl has an awkward balance to it. I'm on the fence between SBR paperwork or just saving time and a bit of money and getting a brace.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 3:55:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it seems I've read a few opinions on it saying that a pistol with a 12" bbl has an awkward balance to it. I'm on the fence between SBR paperwork or just saving time and a bit of money and getting a brace. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:17:13 PM EDT
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Bcm sold me on the 11.5, so yea i think a 12" would be a good fit also.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 1:48:31 PM EDT
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if i were walking around in an open pasture all day i would choose a 20" barrel, but that same rifle would be "silly" inside a car, or the hallways in my house. you see how that works? to most a firearm is a tool, different jobs / situations call for different tools. a 12" pistol is no more silly than a 9/16 socket, or a ball peen hammer to the man who needs it. in other words equip your toolbox with the tools you will use. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Or is there something to them? I've always wanted a 12" gun. Always seemed to be almost the perfect size. I think I'm going to do a pistol first and if I like it I'll probably go the SBR route with it. Is it silly? Anyone do one? if i were walking around in an open pasture all day i would choose a 20" barrel, but that same rifle would be "silly" inside a car, or the hallways in my house. you see how that works? to most a firearm is a tool, different jobs / situations call for different tools. a 12" pistol is no more silly than a 9/16 socket, or a ball peen hammer to the man who needs it. in other words equip your toolbox with the tools you will use. This is like reading the translated version of the jumbled mess that is my brain. I tell people about building an AR is to figure out the job it needs to do then build the tool to make it do that job. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 2:06:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2014 3:09:18 PM EDT
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Such a useful comment filled with insightful perspective. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, should be a 7.5in. I would concur. Owning AR's in lengths from 20 to 7, more fire is always best.
Seriously though, they are the funnest, no doubt. As for the OP...whatever works for you. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 5:52:57 PM EDT
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I went 7.5" for my "first" one.... I keep thinking an 11.5" would be very interesting, especially with a folding receiver extension in place! If I could only have one, I'd probably say the 7.5" since it's slightly shorter OAL than a bullpup 16" and retains all the advantages of a "pistol"-classified firearm. If quantity were no object then yes, I think I'd get an 11.5" as a "second" pistol.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:01:29 AM EDT
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No barrel length is silly as long as you know what it (bbl length) means in terms of performance and reliability. best answer |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:03:09 AM EDT
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Better terminal ballistics than a 10.5'' and seeing as most people use a KX3/5 or KAK Flash Can, there's no difference in OAL with a typical A2 flash hider. I went from 10.5 to 12'' Any noticeable difference in sound/concussion ? |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 10:25:20 AM EDT
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Any noticeable difference in sound/concussion ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Better terminal ballistics than a 10.5'' and seeing as most people use a KX3/5 or KAK Flash Can, there's no difference in OAL with a typical A2 flash hider. I went from 10.5 to 12'' Any noticeable difference in sound/concussion ? I'm close. I have both a 10.5" and 11.5" pistol. Both have the same muzzle device also(Phantom). Not really. Maybe only slightly at the most. |
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