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Link Posted: 10/26/2014 3:17:39 PM EDT
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very nice
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 4:01:23 PM EDT
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I've got a LBK coming with the fluted PSA pistol buffer tube. Will the Sig Brace mount on this tube?  Or do I need to get something else?
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 6:36:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/26/2014 7:49:30 PM EDT
[#4]


Tried to go as minimal as possible...I bought a turn-key RRA 7", used their drop-in 2-stage match trigger, their BAD, MOE SL grip and ASAP, also a Smith Vortex to curb that nasty muzzle blast. Added the SB15 and a KAK buffer tube.

Gotta say, the SB15/KAK is pretty heavy...I'm still on the fence about this one...
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 7:51:00 PM EDT
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*double post*
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 9:54:12 PM EDT
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My SBX fit on it.  It was very tight and I'm not sure how or if it'll ever come off.  I've been told that the SBX has a little bigger opening than the original model.  
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 1:08:24 AM EDT
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[/whine]Why did you mount your Aimpoint so far forward?[/whine]  

Looks nice.
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 7:09:43 AM EDT
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About 2k rounds so far without being cleaned and hasn't had a single malfunction.  The Ferfrans is a little flashy, but works as intended.  I may switch to a flash hider though.  Here's a video of me running it at glock store.

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Cool video. Looks like you guys were having a shoot out in a phone booth! Tight quarters.
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 10:08:59 AM EDT
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[/whine]Why did you mount your Aimpoint so far forward?[/whine]  

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I actually had it one notch too far forward. A slight bit of the mount "bridged the gap". I do prefer it as far forward as I can.
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 10:14:21 AM EDT
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I see you have the TLR-1 with the tape switch,  how good is their tape switch, can you c-clamp the gun without the switch being activated.
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 11:28:19 AM EDT
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I see you have the TLR-1 with the tape switch,  how good is their tape switch, can you c-clamp the gun without the switch being activated.
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I see you have the TLR-1 with the tape switch,  how good is their tape switch, can you c-clamp the gun without the switch being activated.


I find the Streamlight tapes which is every bit as good as the Surefire ST tape switch. With the stream light TLR-1HL light a quick double tap on the tapes which I'll give you the strobe function. It's easy to feel the point where the tapes which will activate and it's easy to grip the gun without activating it.

I'm normally a Surefire fan but this set up works quite well for such a short gun
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 11:49:03 AM EDT
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I actually had it one notch too far forward. A slight bit of the mount "bridged the gap". I do prefer it as far forward as I can.


If it holds zero, that's all that matters.  Was just posting on behalf of our fashion police.  I've seen Aimpoints mounted on the forward rail of M4s.
Link Posted: 10/28/2014 1:35:43 AM EDT
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I find the Streamlight tapes which is every bit as good as the Surefire ST tape switch. With the stream light TLR-1HL light a quick double tap on the tapes which I'll give you the strobe function. It's easy to feel the point where the tapes which will activate and it's easy to grip the gun without activating it.

I'm normally a Surefire fan but this set up works quite well for such a short gun
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I see you have the TLR-1 with the tape switch,  how good is their tape switch, can you c-clamp the gun without the switch being activated.


I find the Streamlight tapes which is every bit as good as the Surefire ST tape switch. With the stream light TLR-1HL light a quick double tap on the tapes which I'll give you the strobe function. It's easy to feel the point where the tapes which will activate and it's easy to grip the gun without activating it.

I'm normally a Surefire fan but this set up works quite well for such a short gun

I can not find a review on this switch for the life of me, so any answers are appreciated.  So does it take a firm press to activate it or if I use a c-clamp will it activate, I know with the surefire you have to intentionally press it.
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 12:24:58 PM EDT
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I am getting closer to my build.

Sig Brace here

Double Star Ext Pistol Tube here
Just ordered a 7.5 inch upper (Thanks jwill242004)  $365 shipped
Also ordered Kineti-tech Muzzle Brake ($38.66)
Hope to have it all together next week.
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 4:56:54 PM EDT
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QC10 - DDLES Glock mag lower with ASA side charging upper - 9mm pistol build
Parts:
QC10-Glock Small Frame Lower
QC10 5.5" 9mm barrel
ASA side-charging pistol cal with ASA BCG
UTG super slim gaurd (The UTG Slim Hand guard needed some modification to fit the ASA upper)
Magpul K2
Sig-Tac Brace
Fab Defense forward
YHM Wraith (tax stamp)
>Thumbs-up on the QC10 (formerly DDLES) and the ASA. Superb quality on both.



Link Posted: 11/22/2014 8:16:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/23/2014 10:03:11 AM EDT
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So I'm at the range yesterday and a range officer along with another shooter approach me and tell me that my Sig Braced 7inch pistol is illegal. I tell them the entire story of the sig brace etc etc. . The RI says that he has printed info from the ATF that the sig braces are gong to be turned into SBR only status. I told him he was full of shit- ain't gonna happen - bull Shit!  Needless to say this went on for about 10mins too long and I left.

Has anyone heard of the ATF reversing their ruling on these?
Link Posted: 11/23/2014 11:08:15 AM EDT
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So I'm at the range yesterday and a range officer along with another shooter approach me and tell me that my Sig Braced 7inch pistol is illegal. I tell them the entire story of the sig brace etc etc. . The RI says that he has printed info from the ATF that the sig braces are gong to be turned into SBR only status. I told him he was full of shit- ain't gonna happen - bull Shit!  Needless to say this went on for about 10mins too long and I left.



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ATF said in a letter to Black Aces Tactical last week that shouldering a shotgun with the sig brace attached would reclassify it as a short barreled shotgun. Nothing has been said about ARs yet

 



Link Posted: 11/23/2014 2:08:19 PM EDT
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There gotta be thousands of these braces out there on pistols. You gonna tell me they would just make these illegal!?
No grandfather clause ?
Link Posted: 11/23/2014 2:31:51 PM EDT
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Sure. Look at the NAA wallet holster fiasco for an example - there were probably ten times the number of those in the hands of owners than SIG braces.
Link Posted: 11/23/2014 6:26:01 PM EDT
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Re: Black Aces letter.... I read on another forum, in the "ar pistol" section, that the issue was with the submitted firearm being a shotgun. Something about it having a smooth bore and not having rifling in the barrel made it an sbr regardless. Don't quote me on it but some have said it shouldn't be an issue for the ar platform. ??? I'd say it at least requires more investigating.
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Rumor on the web today is that there’s trouble in SBR paradise. Shouldering the arm brace  may soon make that legal AR pistol an illegal short barreled rifle .

The BATFE knows that folks are doing this. I’d even bet there are BATFE agents who own AR pistols with SIG Braces. They’re that popular. The BATFE even opined about the brace in question: “Accessories such as the Sig Stability Brace have not been classified…as shoulder stocks and, therefore, using the brace improperly does not constitute a design change.” Sounds logical to me. “We [the BATFE] do not classify weapons based on how an individual uses the weapon.”

The braces on the market now are designed as arm braces, but they’re used as improvised shoulder stocks.  Uncle Sam But now, a new opinion from the ATF

Yesterday, news spread about a letter to Eric Lemoine, owner of Black Aces Tactical–a company who had designed a shotgun that used the arm brace concept. They asked the ATF to rule on the matter. And this is what Acting Chief of the BATF’s Firearms Technology Branch Max Kingery wrote in reply: “The submitted weapon, as described and depicted above … is not a ‘firearm’ as defined by the NFA provided the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace is used as originally designed and not used as a shoulder stock. [...] However, should an individual utilize the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace on the submitted sample as a shoulder stock to fire the weapon from the shoulder, this firearm would then be classified as a ‘short-barreled shotgun.’ ”

If shouldering the brace on a short shotgun suddenly makes it an NFA regulated short barreled shotgun, then it stands to reason that shouldering the brace on an AR pistol might now be construed in the same way.

So–we wait. For now, anyhow, we are all still legal shouldering our pistols. But will it last?
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There are quite a few blog posts by lawyers out there that posit that this finding isn't going to be an issue with AR pistols.  I'm not going to worry about it at this point.
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Rumor on the web today is that there’s trouble in SBR paradise. Shouldering the arm brace  may soon make that legal AR pistol an illegal short barreled rifle .

The BATFE knows that folks are doing this. I’d even bet there are BATFE agents who own AR pistols with SIG Braces. They’re that popular. The BATFE even opined about the brace in question: “Accessories such as the Sig Stability Brace have not been classified…as shoulder stocks and, therefore, using the brace improperly does not constitute a design change.” Sounds logical to me. “We [the BATFE] do not classify weapons based on how an individual uses the weapon.”

The braces on the market now are designed as arm braces, but they’re used as improvised shoulder stocks.  Uncle Sam But now, a new opinion from the ATF

Yesterday, news spread about a letter to Eric Lemoine, owner of Black Aces Tactical–a company who had designed a shotgun that used the arm brace concept. They asked the ATF to rule on the matter. And this is what Acting Chief of the BATF’s Firearms Technology Branch Max Kingery wrote in reply: “The submitted weapon, as described and depicted above … is not a ‘firearm’ as defined by the NFA provided the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace is used as originally designed and not used as a shoulder stock. [...] However, should an individual utilize the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace on the submitted sample as a shoulder stock to fire the weapon from the shoulder, this firearm would then be classified as a ‘short-barreled shotgun.’ ”

If shouldering the brace on a short shotgun suddenly makes it an NFA regulated short barreled shotgun, then it stands to reason that shouldering the brace on an AR pistol might now be construed in the same way.

So–we wait. For now, anyhow, we are all still legal shouldering our pistols. But will it last?
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The brace was approved for pistol use. What that company submitted was not a pistol. What did they expect the answer to be?
Link Posted: 11/24/2014 2:59:59 PM EDT
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Guy above is correct.

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Link Posted: 11/24/2014 3:43:55 PM EDT
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Rumor on the web today is that there’s trouble in SBR paradise. Shouldering the arm brace  may soon make that legal AR pistol an illegal short barreled rifle .

The BATFE knows that folks are doing this. I’d even bet there are BATFE agents who own AR pistols with SIG Braces. They’re that popular. The BATFE even opined about the brace in question: “Accessories such as the Sig Stability Brace have not been classified…as shoulder stocks and, therefore, using the brace improperly does not constitute a design change.” Sounds logical to me. “We [the BATFE] do not classify weapons based on how an individual uses the weapon.”

The braces on the market now are designed as arm braces, but they’re used as improvised shoulder stocks.  Uncle Sam But now, a new opinion from the ATF

Yesterday, news spread about a letter to Eric Lemoine, owner of Black Aces Tactical–a company who had designed a shotgun that used the arm brace concept. They asked the ATF to rule on the matter. And this is what Acting Chief of the BATF’s Firearms Technology Branch Max Kingery wrote in reply: “The submitted weapon, as described and depicted above … is not a ‘firearm’ as defined by the NFA provided the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace is used as originally designed and not used as a shoulder stock. [...] However, should an individual utilize the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace on the submitted sample as a shoulder stock to fire the weapon from the shoulder, this firearm would then be classified as a ‘short-barreled shotgun.’ ”

If shouldering the brace on a short shotgun suddenly makes it an NFA regulated short barreled shotgun, then it stands to reason that shouldering the brace on an AR pistol might now be construed in the same way.

So–we wait. For now, anyhow, we are all still legal shouldering our pistols. But will it last?

The brace was approved for pistol use. What that company submitted was not a pistol. What did they expect the answer to be?


However, neither is a 26" AR pistol once it has a VFG on it. So does that mean you can no longer shoot one from the shoulder, with brace or without brace?

- OS
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Rumor on the web today is that there’s trouble in SBR paradise. Shouldering the arm brace  may soon make that legal AR pistol an illegal short barreled rifle .

The BATFE knows that folks are doing this. I’d even bet there are BATFE agents who own AR pistols with SIG Braces. They’re that popular. The BATFE even opined about the brace in question: “Accessories such as the Sig Stability Brace have not been classified…as shoulder stocks and, therefore, using the brace improperly does not constitute a design change.” Sounds logical to me. “We [the BATFE] do not classify weapons based on how an individual uses the weapon.”

The braces on the market now are designed as arm braces, but they’re used as improvised shoulder stocks.  Uncle Sam But now, a new opinion from the ATF

Yesterday, news spread about a letter to Eric Lemoine, owner of Black Aces Tactical–a company who had designed a shotgun that used the arm brace concept. They asked the ATF to rule on the matter. And this is what Acting Chief of the BATF’s Firearms Technology Branch Max Kingery wrote in reply: “The submitted weapon, as described and depicted above … is not a ‘firearm’ as defined by the NFA provided the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace is used as originally designed and not used as a shoulder stock. [...] However, should an individual utilize the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace on the submitted sample as a shoulder stock to fire the weapon from the shoulder, this firearm would then be classified as a ‘short-barreled shotgun.’ ”

If shouldering the brace on a short shotgun suddenly makes it an NFA regulated short barreled shotgun, then it stands to reason that shouldering the brace on an AR pistol might now be construed in the same way.

So–we wait. For now, anyhow, we are all still legal shouldering our pistols. But will it last?

The brace was approved for pistol use. What that company submitted was not a pistol. What did they expect the answer to be?


However, neither is a 26" AR pistol once it has a VFG on it. So does that mean you can no longer shoot one from the shoulder, with brace or without brace?

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The letter specifically stated it only applied to the submitted 12ga firearm, with that in mind AR firearm/VFGs should be fine. But to be absolutely certain you'd have to send them a new letter asking about them specifically. If you want to be THAT GUY.
Link Posted: 11/24/2014 8:44:31 PM EDT
[#28]
Still trying to decide on a sight.

I like eotech,  trijicon srs looks good also.  Have to fine a aimpoint patrol to compair  I have seen both the other ones.

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Link Posted: 11/24/2014 9:17:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:12:38 AM EDT
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Better to be THAT GUY that wrote the letter than THAT GUY that went to prison for 10 years.  
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 3:09:53 AM EDT
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Better to be THAT GUY that wrote the letter than THAT GUY that went to prison for 10 years.  
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Better to be THAT GUY that wrote the letter than THAT GUY that went to prison for 10 years.  

True enough. Everyone will hate you if the ruling doesn't go how they want though.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 3:18:01 AM EDT
[#32]
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First crack at this pistol thing I think I like it
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 11:56:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/15/2014 11:59:49 AM EDT
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Is that a 10.5 barrel with 11in rail?  Looks good.

I am trying to decide on a rail right now and am thinking a 12" on a 10.5 barrel is just too long (for me).

Since this is a pic thread, here is where I am at.
Link Posted: 12/15/2014 11:35:49 PM EDT
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Is that a 10.5 barrel with 11in rail?  Looks good.

I am trying to decide on a rail right now and am thinking a 12" on a 10.5 barrel is just too long (for me).

Since this is a pic thread, here is where I am at.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/12/26bab9c25f4c260296b44918fadc4fef.jpg
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Guy above is correct.

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Is that a 10.5 barrel with 11in rail?  Looks good.

I am trying to decide on a rail right now and am thinking a 12" on a 10.5 barrel is just too long (for me).

Since this is a pic thread, here is where I am at.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/12/26bab9c25f4c260296b44918fadc4fef.jpg


300BLK barrel cut to 8.75". Rail is an Am-Tac Precision 9.5". .30 Noveske KX3

Better angle.



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Link Posted: 12/17/2014 3:52:09 PM EDT
[#36]
My new case and AR pistol build with EOtech and 7.5 radical upper. Still a work in progress

Link Posted: 12/17/2014 8:19:27 PM EDT
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What upper is this?
Link Posted: 12/20/2014 7:31:22 PM EDT
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Its a franken-upper
Aeroprecision upper receiver ( I think)
Stag upper parts kit,
P.S.A CHF 12" barrel.
Parralax Tactical 11.5" FSSR rail,
SLR adjustable gas block
LMT enhanced BCG
SWR Trifecta Flash Hider /suppressor mount
Link Posted: 12/21/2014 12:52:03 AM EDT
[#39]
I like the Sig brace, but this little sucker has a viscous muzzle blast that makes my teeth rattle













 
Link Posted: 12/21/2014 3:51:39 AM EDT
[#40]
Work in progress yet, still need a better optic and I am thinking of converting to a 300blk.


Link Posted: 12/21/2014 1:46:53 PM EDT
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Whoops - wrong thread!
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 4:09:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/22/2014 5:01:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2014 7:07:47 AM EDT
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Is that a 10.5 barrel with 11in rail?  Looks good.



I am trying to decide on a rail right now and am thinking a 12" on a 10.5 barrel is just too long (for me).



Since this is a pic thread, here is where I am at.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/12/26bab9c25f4c260296b44918fadc4fef.jpg
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Is that a 10.5 barrel with 11in rail?  Looks good.



I am trying to decide on a rail right now and am thinking a 12" on a 10.5 barrel is just too long (for me).



Since this is a pic thread, here is where I am at.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/12/26bab9c25f4c260296b44918fadc4fef.jpg
You are so close--finish it!

 
Link Posted: 12/23/2014 11:19:48 PM EDT
[#45]

Joined the pistol club.Spikes 7.5in, noveske kx5 on the way.
Link Posted: 12/23/2014 11:51:40 PM EDT
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Work in progress yet, still need a better optic and I am thinking of converting to a 300blk.

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Ooh, aah, Olympic oa93 upper.
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