 NCUrk
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Posted: 7/19/2012 7:15:06 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I have a Delton Lower I bought 3-4 years ago sitting in my safe. It has NEVER been assembled in any configuration. My question is, can I make it into a Pistol? I don't remember if I put Rifle or Pistol on the ATF form when I bought it... As cheap as lowers are, I feel it would be safer to just buy another lower and be safe. But was curious.... Looking to build a .22 pistol. |
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Posted: 7/20/2012 8:06:46 AM
You say it's never been built. Then your free to build it into anything you want regardless, now if you feel emotional about that buy a new lower as an excuse but it's not needed.
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Posted: 7/25/2012 6:35:10 AM
Originally Posted By LastRites:
You say it's never been built. Then your free to build it into anything you want regardless, now if you feel emotional about that buy a new lower as an excuse but it's not needed. What if your not the original buyer of the virgin lower, does that change anything? And if it becomes a question, is it the BATFE's responsibility to prove that it was once used on a rifle or is it the user's responsibility to prove it was not? My buddy bought a RRA lower, minus stock or buffer tube, locally from a private person. He said he would sell it and with the 2 stage trigger and LPK it was a VERY good deal. He has not assembled it, and the previous owner claimed he didnt either. From inspecting it, I believe that is true. I read one of the BATF letters in the tacked thread that mentioned contacting the manufacturer for confirmation of how it was sold (rifle, pistol, unassembled lower). Is that of any use if I am not the original purchaser? I would have to check, but I think I know which FFL it was originally bought from and he is a friend of mine. Would he be able to provide useful documentation as to original form of the lower? Maybe this is too much grey area, but I would like to take advantage of the $150 savings this deal offers if possible. Thanks |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 6:45:41 AM
Transfer forms must be retained for 20 years. If the FFL dealer goes out of business, they are required to send the forms they've accumulated to the ATF's 'Out of Business' record keeping section.
If you have the S/N: you can always find out from ATF which FFL it was originally transferred through. And if you already know the ATF, they will have a record of the original transfer. |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 3:11:26 AM
Thank you for the response. I understand that I can, one way or the other, establish how the lower was originally sold. But, since it wasnt sold to ME, how does one go about proving its history in between the original sale and its final build form (pistol)? Or is it not my responsibility to prove that it was never assembled? I'm confident that this lower has never been a rifle, but my confidence isnt worth much in court.
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