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Posted: 6/22/2012 6:20:15 PM
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Posted: 6/22/2012 7:55:40 PM
I can't think of any practical reason to have AR pistol.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 8:03:07 PM
[Last Edit: 6/22/2012 8:10:47 PM by RandyStacyE]
Originally Posted By goldeneye:
I want a short barreled AR, but I don't want to spend the money and time on the tax stamp and waiting. So, I'm thinking about an AR pistol, but I am wondering how practical/useful they are. I've shot a Draco AK and besides a target 15 ft. away, I felt like I was spraying ammo at the target instead of actually shooting. So, tell me what you use your AR pistol for/how you use it (sling, etc.) and how practical it is. Also, does anyone use it for compeitions? If so, what kind of matches? AR pistols and SBRs are surprising accurate. They are obviously smaller and lighter. They have less muzzle velocity so it would be impractical to do any long range shooting with it. A red dot optic or a 1-4x works nicely with it. With the high price of ammo these days, instead of just dumping mags, I like to challenge myself by shooting smaller & smaller targets farther and farther away. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 8:32:12 PM
I have one and have access to full auto sbr's. I'm telling you that once you go short you will never go back. Just try it out and I guarantee that you will be paying your 200 bucks to sbr.
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CheaperThanDirt
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Posted: 6/22/2012 8:41:43 PM
Originally Posted By sargebailey: I have one and have access to full auto sbr's. I'm telling you that once you go short you will never go back. Just try it out and I guarantee that you will be paying your 200 bucks to sbr. This is true. An AR pistol is quite a capable weapon if you don't mind getting banged in the shoulder a bit. And they give you SBR fever. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 9:44:04 PM
+1
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Posted: 6/22/2012 9:55:35 PM
+1
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Posted: 6/22/2012 10:52:38 PM
I push out tight on a single point sling. The buffer tube comes up to my cheek & the sights appear effortlessly. No banged shoulder. Extremely compact, lots of firepower, and infinitely customizable. I built my first in 9mm, but I will build a 5.56/ .223 soon. It is something hard to explain how well they shoot. Find someone with one & try it out. You will be hooked. I have no problems hitting targets at 100 yards, semi rapid fire with a red dot with my 9mm. They are far more than a range toy. Later! John |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 11:07:29 PM
Originally Posted By Johnny_C:
I push out tight on a single point sling. The buffer tube comes up to my cheek & the sights appear effortlessly. No banged shoulder. Extremely compact, lots of firepower, and infinitely customizable. I built my first in 9mm, but I will build a 5.56/ .223 soon. It is something hard to explain how well they shoot. Find someone with one & try it out. You will be hooked. I have no problems hitting targets at 100 yards, semi rapid fire with a red dot with my 9mm. They are far more than a range toy. Later! John Thanks, your method of shooting is exactly what I am thinking about doing. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 11:08:54 PM
ive been thinkin about doing one also but with a piston gas system.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 12:04:19 AM
Originally Posted By goldeneye:
Why should I buy a pistol AR? They are, Fun to shoot Loud & proud Attention getter Less recoil Light weight Easy to get on target No problem hitting an 6" gong at 100 yards No problem hitting an 8" gong at 200 yards Did I say they are fun to shoot
I like it more than my 16" AR |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 2:58:00 AM
Yeah, no banging shoulder when done correctly. Most people will naturally try to shoulder them.
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ErikO
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Posted: 6/23/2012 4:09:28 AM
[Last Edit: 6/23/2012 5:08:51 PM by ErikO]
Loud is fun at an indoor range.
I'm still on the fence with having mine end in a Noveske Pig...that might be too much. Unless that guy with the 50AE Deagle is in the lane next to me...or even on the same side of the range...then it's on! |
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tumbleweed
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:56:16 AM
Some states, like mine, don't allow loaded long guns in a vehicle. A loaded AR or AK pistol is ok with a CPL, if that floats your boat.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 7:27:32 AM
Its like this when its right the only thing your going to not like about it is the lack of cheap ammo !!!
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Posted: 6/23/2012 7:53:39 AM
Mine makes easy hits to 100 yards at least. Even with an 11.5 inch barrel, it breaks down small enough to fit in a 22" toolbox. A great bug out gun!
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Posted: 6/23/2012 8:50:16 AM
Originally Posted By goldeneye:
Originally Posted By Johnny_C:
I push out tight on a single point sling. The buffer tube comes up to my cheek & the sights appear effortlessly. No banged shoulder. Extremely compact, lots of firepower, and infinitely customizable. I built my first in 9mm, but I will build a 5.56/ .223 soon. It is something hard to explain how well they shoot. Find someone with one & try it out. You will be hooked. I have no problems hitting targets at 100 yards, semi rapid fire with a red dot with my 9mm. They are far more than a range toy. Later! John Thanks, your method of shooting is exactly what I am thinking about doing. This works really well, and I can switch to off hand with no adjustment to the sling. I depress the muzzle to let the buffer tube clear the sling, switch hand postions & re-aquire the sights. Later! John |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 12:09:32 PM
It gives you a means to own several sbr uppers and "claim a legit legal reason" if anyone bothers you. Other reason is to have an sbr without it being an sbr. Just can't put on it everything a rifle can have
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1IV
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Posted: 6/23/2012 12:15:04 PM
Guns are not practical.
The fantasy is to surprise a badguy witha really loud flash that he can not find cover to stop. AR pistol Ak pistol. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 4:46:36 PM
1IV, not all guns are practical, but these do provide an avenue that others don't provide. Oh and a big flash really doesn't make any noise, it's just a bright by product of something traveling at a pretty good clip down range.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 5:06:39 PM
My friends, brother and dad thought it was stupid and not practical too right up till they shot if for the first time. Now they all want one
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Posted: 6/23/2012 5:55:48 PM
When you want to shoot something between 50 and 300 yards and you don't want to carry a full assault rifle and you don't want to buy a tax stamp for an SBR
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:32:45 PM
Originally Posted By Phantom30:
When you want to shoot something between 50 and 300 yards and you don't want to carry a full assault rifle and you don't want to buy a tax stamp for an SBR Brother most cannot afford or have the option on a full assault rifle as that requires usually a butt load of cash and the proper tax stamps to go along with it. Assault rifles are typically if not always fully automatic, not the semi-auto AR15 version known as a sporting rifle! The wording you choose is just wrong on all levels. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:48:31 PM
Let me more selective in my wording, an assualt rifle is expensive and heavier than a pistol format and most can't afford one, An SBR requires tax stamps, so if you want a capable sporting pistol without these drawbacks than an AR pistol makes sense
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Posted: 6/24/2012 3:15:28 PM
Here's a reason
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Posted: 6/24/2012 3:34:27 PM
An assault rifle is an automatic rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. Assault rifles are the standard infantry weapons in most modern armies. Assault rifles are categorized in between light machine guns, which are intended more for sustained automatic fire in a light support role.
AR15's of any variety are not assault rifles. Similar to clips are not magizines. |
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