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Posted: 4/29/2012 11:08:11 PM
Originally Posted By TitleII:
This is a work in progress. I need everyone to review what I post and recommend changes.

First, This is my first time doing something like this and with everyones help we can come up with a valid list.

I don't know what state laws are, so one someone says GTG if registered, I don't know what that means. are all handguns registered or just AR15 variant pistols?

When people say things like...as far a I know they are good to go. I think they are OK. then I didn't give the state a NKR or what we will not change to GTG I was hoping to get 2 GTGs for each state before I declared a state GTG.

So, help me do this. Don't use I THINK and don't tell me they need to be registered without explaining.

I will listen to any input as to how to do this better.

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Hello Nice work here...
I'd like to see some clarity about registration

I'm an IL resident frequently I travel out of state, I have a FOID card and I have a Utah CC permit (maybe someday I'll be able to CC in my own State)
I'm always looking at the guns laws where I travel as I don't want to break any Laws

In a few weeks I'm going to UP of MI, one of my buddies Hunting Camp and I'm planing on bringing a few weapons with me including a couple Handguns and my new AR 15 9MM pistol 7.5"
Target practice and test out some new toys
So far it looks like I"m GTG From what I've read, I have a couple of LEO friends up there I'll be trying to contact this week.
Residents have to register but it looks like I'm legal due to my FOID and Utah permit as long as I don't CC and transport properly, Looks Like I could Open Carry, but I wouldn't I don't like to advertise nor do I want any extra attention
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Posted: 5/23/2012 9:40:51 PM
Rhode Island is GTG

They are treated as any other pistol.
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Posted: 5/25/2012 10:36:25 PM
Added Rhode Island

Originally Posted By compuvette:

Alabama..............................GTG, no restrictions, but bbl less than 12" is considered a "pistol" and regulated as such for CC purposes (Ala. Code 13A-11-70(1)).
Alaska
American Samoa
Arizona.................................GTG
Arkansas................................GTG x 1 90%
California..............................GTG with bullet button - California Penal Code § 12276.1(a)(4) , California Code of Regulations § 5469(a)

Colorado..................GTG, no restriction, but bbl 12" or less regulated by handgun statute (C.R.S. 18-12-101(1)(e.5)). Denver 20 rd max, may not apply to pistol (D.C. 38-130)
Connecticut.......................NO, complete ban. Defined here: Conn. Gen. Stat. 53-202(a). Prohibited here: Conn. Gen. Stat. 53-202(c).
Delaware
District of Columbia...............NO, assault weapons defined as: DC Official Code § 7-2501.01(3A)
Florida.................................GTG
Georgia.................................GTG x1
Guam
Hawaii..................................NO, but maybe with bullet button - Hawaii Revised Statutes § 134-1

Idaho
Illinois................................GTG except complete ban in Cook county (CCC 54-212(a)).
Indiana...............................GTG, IC 35-47-1-6 not a restriction on OAL.
Iowa....................................GTG
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana...............................GTG x1 at 99%
Maine
Maryland................................OK to build but not sell
Massachusetts...........................NO, but "maybe" if owned before 1994 and you have some special paperwork

Michigan................................GTG with registration? less than 30 inches
Minnesota...............................GTG x1
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana.................................GTG x1
Nebraska
Nevada..................................GTG -
Nevada Revised Statutes 202.253-369
New Hampshire
New Jersey.....................................NG
New Mexico
New York ...................................Restricted - see expired Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 (pre-ban is GTG––all must be licensed)
North Carolina..........................GTG x1
North Dakota
Northern Marianas Islands
Ohio....................................GTG
Oklahoma................................GTG, but no concealed carry - Oklahoma Statutes, Title 21 § 1290.2.2.a

Oregon
Pennsylvania....................GTG. http://nraila.org/gun-laws/articles/2010/compendium-of-state-firearms-laws.aspx
Puerto Rico
Rhode Island.........................GTG, treated as any other firearm. If OAL under 26" firearm is considered a pistol. R.I. Gen. Laws 11-47-2(8).
South Carolina.......................GTG, no restrictions at all. http://nraila.org/gun-laws/articles/2010/compendium-of-state-firearms-laws.aspx
South Dakota
Tennessee...............................GTG
Texas............................................GTG 100% confirmed - treated as any other handgun
Utah
Vermont.................................GTG x1
Virginia...................................GTG X2
Virgin Islands
Washington..............................GTG x1
West Virginia...........................GTG - http://www.wvago.gov/pdf/BookletWVFirearmLaws.pdf
Wisconsin...............................GTG x1 at 99%
Wyoming


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Posted: 5/31/2012 2:34:36 PM
Missouri is GTG. In fact, you can use an AR pistol chambered larger than .223/5.56 to hunt with during both Regular and Black Powder seasons here.

We have some bummer/odd laws here, but in general the firearms ones are not.
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Posted: 7/13/2012 4:17:14 PM
There are two variants legal in NY that aren't preban: Bushmaster Type 97s (Carbon 15) and the swiss cheesed Olympic Arms one.

Other than that, no post ban AR pistol is legal unless you built an ultralight yourself on a poly stripped lower that had never been registered as a rifle.
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Posted: 7/16/2012 7:39:06 PM
Oregon, No restrictions on AR pistols. GTG, .223 is legal for black bear,cougar,pronghorn, black tail/mule deer with pistols. .24 cal or larger for elk, bighorn, or rocky mt. goats, and western grey squirrels and pigs are at your discretion.
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Posted: 7/26/2012 10:48:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Pain:
Connecticut they are banned by features, unless made as a pistol and was legally manufactured prior to September 13, 1994.



Here is part of the CT ASSAULT WEAPON LAW. These pistols banned by features. Read below.

(B) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

(i) An ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

(ii) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer;

(iii) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

(iv) A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded


Let's clarify just a tinch. In Connecticut, MOST, but not all, AR pistols are not legal because of their features. However, it is possible for a Connecticut resident to lawfully possess an AR-type pistol under numerous circumstances.

1. If the pistol were a banned make/ model, it could be owned a certificate of possession. Unless there is a Colt AR-15 marked AR pistol out there, I don't believe that there are any AR-15 pistols grandfathered on certificates of possession out there. Transfer of named assault weapons is tightly regulated by state law.

2. Preban. There are some preban AR-15 pistols out there, or firearms that qualify as pistols which were built on preban receivers. These AR pistols may be transfered like any other pistol and would command a hefty premium.

3. Feature compliant post-ban. This speaks for itself. If the pistol was made after 13 SEP 1994, it may not have more than 1 of the features listed in Pain's post. There is actually an additional clause, as well, which considers being a semi-auto version of a fully automatic firearm to be a criteria. Based on communications that I have had with CSP/ DPS SLFU, this subsection comes into play when the company building the pistol makes fully-auto version as well.

4. Manually operated: Manually operatedd firearms are not covered by the assault weapons ban. There is a CT poster in the NEHTF who does own a manually operated (bolt action) AR pistol. I believe his is in a funky big bore round that is typically used for metallic sillouette shooting and hunting. The one thing to keep in mind, is that with a drop in conversion kit, the firearm could be converted into a semi-automatic .22. Connecticut's assault weapons ban does have a constructive possession clause.

5. Non-pistol firearms. Connecticut has a very specific state definition of what a "pistol" is. A "Pistol" is any firearm with a barrel over 12" long. What a member or two on the NEHTF have is buld pistol-style firearms with longer barrels, which are not encumbered by the feature count.
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Wisconsin follows Federal Law regarding handguns and handgun transfer so long as you are 18. Anyone over 18 may possess. AR handguns are not treated differently. You may even hunt with an AR handgun with a drum mag.
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Posted: 9/30/2012 1:15:15 AM
I gotta find out about Maine, i would love to build one if its allowed.
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Posted: 10/23/2012 11:18:03 PM
I talked to Pennsylvania State Police firearms unit today about ar15 pistols just to be 100% about my upcoming build. Essentially if you are purchasing a complete pistol then you must fill out the state handgun form along with your batfe 4473 form at your ffl. However, if you purchase a stripped lower receiver you may construct a pistol and no pennsylvania handgun form is needed to be filled out after it is constructed. Your pistol must meet batfe definitions of a pistol The PSP trooper I talked sounded like he has answered this question a number of times.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 5:31:17 PM
I give Washington State a GTG x2 (already 1 GTG). Building one right now for a friend of mine that is a local city police officer. He's removing his 16" and carrying the pistol in a nice little Pelican case. He's also with S.W.A.T., and wants to carry his .308 in the cruiser, instead of the trunk. He said there is legislation to try and "re-classify" AR pistols in WA. But he also said they try it every year, and nothing changes. As long as it don't sit in the shoulder, your golden.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 9:37:26 PM
After Jan 1, 2013
Michigan is 26" or less
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Unless your grandfathered in at the previous 30" or less

some info on New law http://miafr.com/2012/10/23/summary-of-michigans-new-pistol-definition-law/
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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:13:30 AM
Oregon is GTG.

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Posted: 12/9/2012 1:14:04 AM
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Originally Posted By iNeXile556:
No worries in the great state of Tennessee.


Well, though I've not heard of a case, TN statute does have a "12 or less barrel" in its definition of "handgun".

Just a minor something to consider if you were toting something around with your handgun carry permit with longer than 12" barrel.

Course, now, if it's also 26" or more overall, and if you put a vertical forward grip on it, it becomes a "firearm" instead of "handgun" to the BATF, but dunno if any given TN court would agree.

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Posted: 12/15/2012 2:01:22 AM
Another here, backing the fact that California is good to go!!!

I just had one built for me locally (central California) by precision tactical, has the lame bullet button, registered as a single shot pistol, and had to leave his shop with a blocked magazine, only allowing a single round. By the book, he carried it out to my car, we popped his single shot mag out and I put my 10 round clip in... Good to go and fully compliant for California.

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Posted: 12/17/2012 12:44:25 PM
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Originally Posted By mamwny:
There are two variants legal in NY that aren't preban: Bushmaster Type 97s (Carbon 15) and the swiss cheesed Olympic Arms one.

Other than that, no post ban AR pistol is legal unless you built an ultralight yourself on a poly stripped lower that had never been registered as a rifle.


So, since the Franklin Firearms XO-26 is technically not a pistol, it's legal in NY with 10 round or 'pre ban' mags right? Just kidding here - I wouldn't try it. Too many evil features as well. God I hope we don't go back to that BS soon.

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Posted: 12/31/2012 6:03:16 AM
GTG in WVa.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 8:54:16 AM
Michigan as of the 1st now has a 26 inch or less restriction.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 8:06:09 PM
Connecticut is GTG........ONLY IF using a VIRGIN PREBAN lower receiver.
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NH you are GTG, it is considered a Pistol and is covered under you carry permit if you wish to carry it in your car according to every one I have talked to.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 6:56:45 PM
I just want to double check to make sure Iowa is still GTG and that no laws have changed for whatever reason.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 11:50:48 AM
I will second the motion on Washington State. I have built several AR pistols. I always start a build as a pistol because I can go on to rifle, but I have the option to return to pistol mode. Build one as a rifle, you are stuck with a rifle forever.


Alabama..............................GTG, no restrictions, but bbl less than 12" is considered a "pistol" and regulated as such for CC purposes (Ala. Code 13A-11-70(1)).
Alaska
American Samoa
Arizona.................................GTG
Arkansas................................GTG x 1 90%
California..............................GTG with bullet button - California Penal Code § 12276.1(a)(4) , California Code of Regulations § 5469(a)

Colorado..................GTG, no restriction, but bbl 12" or less regulated by handgun statute (C.R.S. 18-12-101(1)(e.5)). Denver 20 rd max, may not apply to pistol (D.C. 38-130)
Connecticut.......................NO, complete ban. Defined here: Conn. Gen. Stat. 53-202(a). Prohibited here: Conn. Gen. Stat. 53-202(c).
Delaware
District of Columbia...............NO, assault weapons defined as: DC Official Code § 7-2501.01(3A)
Florida.................................GTG
Georgia.................................GTG x1
Guam
Hawaii..................................NO, but maybe with bullet button - Hawaii Revised Statutes § 134-1

Idaho
Illinois................................GTG except complete ban in Cook county (CCC 54-212(a)).
Indiana...............................GTG, IC 35-47-1-6 not a restriction on OAL.
Iowa....................................GTG
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana...............................GTG x1 at 99%
Maine
Maryland................................OK to build but not sell
Massachusetts...........................NO, but "maybe" if owned before 1994 and you have some special paperwork

Michigan................................GTG with registration? less than 30 inches
Minnesota...............................GTG x1
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana.................................GTG x1
Nebraska
Nevada..................................GTG -
Nevada Revised Statutes 202.253-369
New Hampshire
New Jersey.....................................NG
New Mexico
New York ...................................Restricted - see expired Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 (pre-ban is GTG––all must be licensed)
North Carolina..........................GTG x1
North Dakota
Northern Marianas Islands
Ohio....................................GTG
Oklahoma................................GTG, but no concealed carry - Oklahoma Statutes, Title 21 § 1290.2.2.a

Oregon
Pennsylvania....................GTG. http://nraila.org/gun-laws/articles/2010/compendium-of-state-firearms-laws.aspx
Puerto Rico
Rhode Island.........................GTG, treated as any other firearm. If OAL under 26" firearm is considered a pistol. R.I. Gen. Laws 11-47-2(8).
South Carolina.......................GTG, no restrictions at all. http://nraila.org/gun-laws/articles/2010/compendium-of-state-firearms-laws.aspx
South Dakota
Tennessee...............................GTG
Texas............................................GTG 100% confirmed - treated as any other handgun
Utah
Vermont.................................GTG x1
Virginia...................................GTG X2
Virgin Islands
Washington..............................GTG x2 http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3385&d=1280151535
West Virginia...........................GTG - http://www.wvago.gov/pdf/BookletWVFirearmLaws.pdf
Wisconsin...............................GTG x1 at 99%
Wyoming
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Does this mean the pistol must be less than 26"? I'm curious because I visit Michigan on a regular basis.
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UTAH is gtg - in fact there is legislation to allow the following here in UT. we are hoping and fighting that these get passed.

HB76 will allow any adult over 21 to conceal carry a weapon without a government permission slip (permit).

HB268 will make sure that police cannot charge a person with "disorderly conduct" for merely open carrying a weapon.

HB114 will uphold the Second Amendment as well as Article I Section 6 of the Utah Constitution, both of which declare that the individual right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. This bill states that no federal gun control law which restricts this right will be valid in Utah.

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Posted: 2/17/2013 3:35:42 AM
Alaska is more than GTG, also can be carried however you wish; open or concealed. No CC permit required in State of Alaska if over 21 with clean record(no felons,etc.)
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