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Posted: 1/17/2012 12:04:09 AM
[Last Edit: 1/17/2012 12:11:17 AM by ultramagbrion]
Has there been any new news about using the short Gunsmoke Engineering tubes ?
I skimmed through the last couple years and saw mixed reviews , but nothing solid lately . I'm really liking the looks of these 2nd Gen kits HERE for $265 . It includes a modified chromed bolt carrier . ![]() |
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Posted: 1/25/2012 12:06:24 AM
Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:
Has there been any new news about using the short Gunsmoke Engineering tubes ? I skimmed through the last couple years and saw mixed reviews , but nothing solid lately . I'm really liking the looks of these 2nd Gen kits HERE for $265 . It includes a modified chromed bolt carrier . http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/ultramagbrion/2nd20gen20recoil20kit.jpg Mixed feeling about mine. On the plus side, its' short, looks cool and seriously cuts down on the overall lenth of the pistol. On the negative side, mine had problems with the GSE spring not staying put on the modified bolt carrier. Also, with the spring up over the bolt carrier like that, the forward assist just hits the spring and doesn't work well. |
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Posted: 1/25/2012 12:53:32 PM
Originally Posted By PALADIN-hgwt:
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Originally Posted By BadgerArms: Take a coil or two off the spring until you're satisfied with the safety operation. IIRC the spring in question only holds the rear takedown detent in position against the takedown pin. Safety operation will NOT be affected. Paladin Originally Posted By tacton:
You first have properly ID the hole you're referring to. The hole for the safety/selector detent and spring exit from just above the pistol grip housing. That small hole in the top of the grip holds the spring which presses up and on the detent engaged with the safety and or selector. It is the rear take-down pin spring and detent that exits from the rear of the lower reciever and is held in place by the rifle buttstock or end plate from a carbine stock. the fact no one noticed this error leaves me to doubt the technical skill you guys possess. Paladin beat you to it.... Sorry, I'm a natural smarta$$. |
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Posted: 2/10/2012 3:18:00 PM
[Last Edit: 2/10/2012 3:20:07 PM by eagle308us]
OK so I read most of this thread and maybe I missed it ...
Is there any mod that could be done to a standard 6 position buffer tube so that it could be used on a pistol lower? Some way to make it so that a stock could not fit on it? |
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Posted: 2/10/2012 6:48:31 PM
Remove the material at the bottom and put a foam cover over it.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 6:28:36 AM
I have a Gunsmoke 7.5" pistol kit with the short, pistol spring buffer. It works great. There is an insert for the carrier that allows a small diameter pistol spring to run inside the bolt carrier. It makes for an extremely compact package. The only difference is you have to unscrew the rear cap and dump the spring before you can split the upper and lower. If you oil the insert properly it is easy enough to remove. I have run several hundred rounds through it with no issues. Very loud and huge fireball at night.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 12:35:13 PM
won't the KNS push button take down pin solve the problem of the spring and detent? Is there something im missing?
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Posted: 5/28/2012 12:52:39 PM
Originally Posted By richiecotite:
won't the KNS push button take down pin solve the problem of the spring and detent? Is there something im missing? Why not just use the set screw mod? Tap the takedown pin detent hole with a #4-40 tap to a depth of about 1/64" longer than your set screw, clean it out thoroughly, then shorten the detent spring to accommodate the length of the set screw. Now put in the takedown pin, the detent, and spring, and hold it in place with your setscrew. Make sure you lubricate that tap VERY well, and go slowly, because you don't want to have it break in your lower. |
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Posted: 5/31/2012 2:39:41 PM
Originally Posted By GHPorter:
Originally Posted By richiecotite:
won't the KNS push button take down pin solve the problem of the spring and detent? Is there something im missing? Why not just use the set screw mod? Tap the takedown pin detent hole with a #4-40 tap to a depth of about 1/64" longer than your set screw, clean it out thoroughly, then shorten the detent spring to accommodate the length of the set screw. Now put in the takedown pin, the detent, and spring, and hold it in place with your setscrew. Make sure you lubricate that tap VERY well, and go slowly, because you don't want to have it break in your lower. If anyone wants pics and/or needs the tools to do this, IM me for info. I've done this to my lower. Works great, no flying springs. Also, it gives teh option for not using a backplate. Just one thing, be sure to put some grease on the screw so the alluminum that goit threaded doesn't gall. |
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Posted: 8/3/2012 7:26:53 PM
My Aero Precision Lowers come already threaded - simple as it gets and a GREAT mod even if you have to tap your lower (no more hunting for flying springs and detents).
I use the Phase 5 Tactical Pistol Buffer Tube - has a nice Logo, foam cheek weld cover and says "Pistol" for the bitchie little girls who want to argue about ATF rulings on barrel lengts, Pistol lowers and the likes I run H buffers with Sprinco Blue springs on all my pistols - 7.5 and 10.5 barrels in my 5.56 family and 7.5 and 11.5 for my 7.62 barrels. They all run 100% reliable even with Wolf (the WPA) ammo - I did have to polish the chambers on all of them to increase the reliability to 100%. |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 1:52:06 PM
Just bought and installed a Phase 5 Tactical pistol bufferkit. Runs like a clock. The charging handle is somewhat stiff to pull back, but it has cycled flawlessly. I am running it with a 11.5" barrel and a semi-auto BCG.
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Posted: 8/27/2012 7:04:17 PM
Does anyone have a Spikes ST-9BS Buffer Spacer? Need to know how long it is. I was thinking of using a Phase5 Tactical Pistol Buffer Kit and cutting off an inch or so off of the threaded end and just using a standard buffer for my 9mm AR build. This would both shorten the buffer tube and eliminate the need for a long 9mm buffer or buffer spacer. What do you think?
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Posted: 8/27/2012 8:24:42 PM
My ST-T2 is 3 and 1/4" long from end to end.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 6:40:08 PM
[Last Edit: 3/9/2013 6:53:26 PM by BigWaylon]
I know there was an earlier posting trying to collect the lengths of various pistol buffer tubes, but I'm looking for a different measurement. I'm looking to see if anyone here with a PSA buffer tube can give me an accurate OD measurement. I'm looking to build two pistols, and am doing one with a Spikes kit and the other will be PSA whenever their pistol build kits come in. I'm asking because they don't show up on this chart: Pistol Buffer Tube Cover Fit Chart, and the specs aren't on PSA's website.
I did find a post here where somebody said the PSA pistol tube is an RRA tube. If anybody could confirm that, it would answer the question as well since RRA is on the chart. Thanks in advance. |
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Posted: 3/12/2013 10:26:44 AM
Originally Posted By eagle308us:
OK so I read most of this thread and maybe I missed it ... Is there any mod that could be done to a standard 6 position buffer tube so that it could be used on a pistol lower? Some way to make it so that a stock could not fit on it? Chuck it in a lathe, turn the rib off of it that the buttstock aligns on, and make it a smooth round tube. |
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Posted: 3/21/2013 12:34:28 PM
[Last Edit: 3/21/2013 12:35:59 PM by m4envy]
i built a tube for mine and its the same size as the bushmaster carbon pistol but its aluminum and uses a custom buffer and smaller m4 spring. need to get out and run some rounds to see if it works for more then a couple rounds
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