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Link Posted: 11/13/2016 2:41:39 PM EDT
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im sure its probably in the thread already,but how long will the lead time be?
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John on 65grendel.com said,



"A ballpark for delivery once I give Faxon the go, is about 3 months. I think this is realistic, without being overly optimistic or pessimistic."


Link Posted: 11/24/2016 12:30:10 PM EDT
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Anyone else having trouble register on the 65grendel forum?

I've tried several times and emailed the site staff with negative contact

ETA: issue resolved. Thanks John.
Link Posted: 11/24/2016 9:21:47 PM EDT
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Anyone else having trouble register on the 65grendel forum?

I've tried several times and emailed the site staff with negative contact

ETA: issue resolved. Thanks John.
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It took a few days, but it looks I can now post.

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Link Posted: 11/26/2016 10:56:47 PM EDT
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I cut a check for one, can't wait
Link Posted: 11/27/2016 12:17:20 PM EDT
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We're more than halfway there... if you're on the fence, go ahead and Paypal that dough!  Come on, this is really cheap.  I bet we'd be tnere if everybody who said they wanted one actually sent funds.
Link Posted: 11/27/2016 2:23:12 PM EDT
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Agreed!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 11/27/2016 3:10:23 PM EDT
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Aw hell. Maybe I'll order a 2nd one.
Link Posted: 11/27/2016 9:58:43 PM EDT
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Aw hell. Maybe I'll order a 2nd one.
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I have thought about this.  Wish I had on the 16" group buy we did.
Link Posted: 11/27/2016 10:55:35 PM EDT
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What do u think this would do at 300 to 600 yards
Link Posted: 11/28/2016 12:22:25 AM EDT
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What do u think this would do at 300 to 600 yards
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If you want a good reference as to performance capabilities of this cartridge, take an 11.5" 6.5 Grendel with the 129gr ABLR (factory load BTW) and shoot it next to a 20" .30-30 with the 150gr Hornady RN:

11.5" 6.5 Grendel with a 129gr ABLR gives you:

100yds 2066fps 1223ft-lbs
200yds 1928fps 1065ft-lbs
300yds 1796fps 924ft-lbs
400yds 1671fps 800ft-lb

20" barreled .30-30 with a 150gr RN Hornady:

100yds 1879fps 1176ft-lbs
175yds 1599fps 852ft-lbs
200yds 1515fps 764ft-lbs

An 11.5" 6.5 Grendel has more energy at 400yds shooting a lighter bullet, than a 20" .30-30 does at 200yds.  This is one of the easiest ways to show the layman how effective BC is compared to a known cartridge that dates back to 1895, and has been used to harvest untold numbers of deer and even large game at close range.
Link Posted: 11/28/2016 1:13:03 AM EDT
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I got in on the group buy. Who should I buy a bolt from?
Link Posted: 11/28/2016 1:23:56 AM EDT
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I'd recommend  from Alexander Arms
Link Posted: 11/28/2016 4:20:38 PM EDT
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thanks for the load info. I think you can push 600 in this no prob out of this type of barrel
Link Posted: 11/28/2016 4:29:06 PM EDT
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thanks for the load info. I think you can push 600 in this no prob out of this type of barrel
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600yds is child's play for a projectile in the high .4s or low-to-mid .5s, regardless of how fast it leaves the muzzle.
Link Posted: 11/28/2016 5:06:42 PM EDT
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Your knowledge is insane sir!
Thinking of using a SBR 6.5 Grendel for comps God would that be cool
Link Posted: 11/28/2016 5:12:56 PM EDT
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Your knowledge is insane sir!
Thinking of using a SBR 6.5 Grendel for comps God would that be cool
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What kind of competitions?

I would stack the deck in my favor for competition, and that often means some amount of barrel length in the 18" or longer region.
Link Posted: 11/28/2016 5:18:04 PM EDT
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I cant compete with other peoples rifles but I am going to be in a winter shoots going to 300 yards with 600 yard targets
nothing special
I will do CMP vintage sniper shoots this summer with a M39
Link Posted: 11/30/2016 1:51:26 AM EDT
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Thinking of building a 6.5 Grendel pistol/SBR. Is that 12" Faxon barrel from the group buy going to be too long for a pistol build or will I be happy with that?
Link Posted: 11/30/2016 8:46:50 AM EDT
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I think the 12 inch barrel looks good on this guy's pistol.  I don't think it would be too long.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/4032149/manchester-new-hampshire-rifles-for-sale--ar-15-pistol-12-5-inch-barrel
Link Posted: 12/1/2016 1:57:45 PM EDT
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Got in on this, can't wait!
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 1:18:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/12/2016 6:39:46 PM EDT
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Thanks for the update, just registered to pull the trigger on one, can someone nudge an admin to activate the same username on there?

Thanks
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 12:15:43 AM EDT
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Dang this site costs me too much money.  

I'm interested but....

What do I need to do to finish the build?

Do I just need to change out the bolt & mags from a standard 556 to make it work?

Grendel uses a standard AR lower, right?

Anyone know what kind of accuracy I should expect out of one of these?
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 12:31:43 AM EDT
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Dang this site costs me too much money.  

I'm interested but....

What do I need to do to finish the build?

Do I just need to change out the bolt & mags from a standard 556 to make it work?

Grendel uses a standard AR lower, right?

Anyone know what kind of accuracy I should expect out of one of these?
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Yes, the only parts that are different are the barrel, bolt, and mags.

It's still very much an AR15, just chambered in something that delivers and retains a lot more energy on-target, with not much more recoil.

Accuracy potential with 6.5 Grendel from a good barrel is very nice, especially since it doesn't deflect in the wind as much as most other rifle cartridges.
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 12:45:00 AM EDT
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Yes, the only parts that are different are the barrel, bolt, and mags.

It's still very much an AR15, just chambered in something that delivers and retains a lot more energy on-target, with not much more recoil.

Accuracy potential with 6.5 Grendel from a good barrel is very nice, especially since it doesn't deflect in the wind as much as most other rifle cartridges.
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Dang this site costs me too much money.  

I'm interested but....

What do I need to do to finish the build?

Do I just need to change out the bolt & mags from a standard 556 to make it work?

Grendel uses a standard AR lower, right?

Anyone know what kind of accuracy I should expect out of one of these?

Yes, the only parts that are different are the barrel, bolt, and mags.

It's still very much an AR15, just chambered in something that delivers and retains a lot more energy on-target, with not much more recoil.

Accuracy potential with 6.5 Grendel from a good barrel is very nice, especially since it doesn't deflect in the wind as much as most other rifle cartridges.


Thank you for the info.  I've read your other threads on the Grendel with much interest.

What's the deal with the .136 bolt face headspace people was talking about earlier in the thread?

If I were to get into this buy, what bolt should I get?  Should I get the bolt headspaced to the barrel like I did for my .308, or is it pretty standard like the 556?

As far as downrange energy, how much tail will the Grendel have on it at 600 out of a 12 inch barrel?

I'm guessing that the Grendel will use a .308 muzzle brake?
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 1:47:29 AM EDT
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This buy uses the standard 6.5 Grendel 0.136" boltface depth, and uses 5/8x24 muzzle threads.
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 2:50:22 AM EDT
[#27]
i'm in , just sent payment
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 10:54:42 AM EDT
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now I want a heavy bolt howa too argh the 6.5s are just too much fun
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 7:06:33 PM EDT
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Here is what I am narrowing down to.

• Barrel length: 12.5
• Barrel profile: Medium, Socom, M4 need feedback on this, might do flutes but that would cost more.
• Carbine gas system
• Gas-block diameter: 0.750"
• Gas-port diameter: 0.078"
• Muzzle threads: 5/8 x 24
• 11-degree target crown
• Barrel steel: 4150 CMV
• Inside finish: QPQ nitride
• Outside finish: QPQ nitride
• 6.5 Grendel, SAAMI chamber, headspaced for 0.136" boltface depth
• 5R-groove
• Rifling twist: 1:7.5
• M4-style barrel extension
• Magnetic particle inspected
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I like it--if not too much coin, count me in!
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 8:23:21 PM EDT
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They don't seem to be in much of a hurry to approve my 65grendel account.
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 10:09:48 PM EDT
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They don't seem to be in much of a hurry to approve my 65grendel account.
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Same here, I want to get my order in by the cutoff tomorrow
Link Posted: 12/13/2016 11:39:14 PM EDT
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Blunt force trauma that posted a few posts up is the man over there doing the group buy, maybe im him.
Halfway...


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Link Posted: 12/14/2016 12:02:29 AM EDT
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I dropped a post in that thread asking him to check this one.
Link Posted: 12/14/2016 1:11:56 AM EDT
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Same here, I want to get my order in by the cutoff tomorrow
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They don't seem to be in much of a hurry to approve my 65grendel account.


Same here, I want to get my order in by the cutoff tomorrow

it took a day or two for my account to get approved also

like was said above blunt force trauma that posted up a bit is the one running the group buy , maybe send him a message here
Link Posted: 12/14/2016 9:35:30 AM EDT
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Got it all sorted out last night, thanks
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 1:17:36 PM EDT
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Now this is a go a have a couple of questions, I've never played with suppressors much and currently have a Sandman-S in jail that should be ready about the same time as this barrel. Would you get an adjustable gas block to get this to function reliable both ways? And what buffer would you go with?
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 1:26:14 PM EDT
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Now this is a go a have a couple of questions, I've never played with suppressors much and currently have a Sandman-S in jail that should be ready about the same time as this barrel. Would you get an adjustable gas block to get this to function reliable both ways? And what buffer would you go with?
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I strongly suggest an adjustable gas block. Worked wonders with my 18 inch Intermediate gas Odin barrel and SiCo Omega, which was way over gassed with the can on it. I just use a standard carbine buffer.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 1:40:26 PM EDT
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I strongly suggest an adjustable gas block. Worked wonders with my 18 inch Intermediate gas Odin barrel and SiCo Omega, which was way over gassed with the can on it. I just use a standard carbine buffer.
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Now this is a go a have a couple of questions, I've never played with suppressors much and currently have a Sandman-S in jail that should be ready about the same time as this barrel. Would you get an adjustable gas block to get this to function reliable both ways? And what buffer would you go with?


I strongly suggest an adjustable gas block. Worked wonders with my 18 inch Intermediate gas Odin barrel and SiCo Omega, which was way over gassed with the can on it. I just use a standard carbine buffer.

For 18" MLGS and ILGS, there is enough dwell time that when combined with a can, you get a lot of back-pressure and a tendency to unlock early.

For an SBR with CLGS and the right port size, you might not need adjustable gas.

Adding an adjustable gas block won't hurt you if you run it open in the end, but it does give you some options.

The biggest disadvantage with them is choking the gas port and causing early erosion, which requires more choking as the port erodes more.

Shooting in higher volume will have this show up faster than someone who shoots moderate to low round counts.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 1:49:45 PM EDT
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Thanks, I'm going to throw a G super on it and see how it works, probably pick up a JPSCS for it as well, I can always change it if I have problems.
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