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Posted: 4/8/2016 6:12:39 PM EDT
Palmetto state Armory is Proud to announce the KS-47 rifle, in stock and ready to ship!
The Palmetto State Armory KS47 is based on the AR15, and combines the modular construction, accuracy and precision of the AR platform with the stopping power and the magazine options of the AK. While the current AR47 fires the 7.62x39 AK round, it uses modified AR-style magazines that are not nearly as plentiful as AK-style magazines, that were optimized for reliable feeding of the 7.62x39 round. The KS47 lets the AK shooter capitalize on his inventory of magazines and ammo with an AR-style platform. Unlike the AK, where the barrel is permanently pressed into the receiver, the KS47 features an AR-style modular configuration which consists of a barreled upper receiver, and a lower receiver that houses the fire control group and magazine. The modular configuration allows customers to have several different barrel configurations with one lower receiver, just by releasing two pins. Lower: The 7075-T6 billet lower receiver is hardcoat anodized, and accepts standard AR15 fire control groups. The extended magazine release is outside of the trigger guard for safety, which allows for an AK-style release movement, but also features oversize side paddles for fingertip release by the trigger finger. Fitted with a standard PSA A2-style grip and M4-style stock, the receiver also features a standard, mil-spec diameter, 6 position, 7075 carbine buffer tube. The KS47 lower accepts AK style surplus magazines including drum-style magazines. Upper: The KS47 hybrid upper receiver is precision machined out of billet 7075 T6 aluminum, and then hardcoat anodized for durability. While retaining the look of a standard M4 upper, the KS47 hybrid upper is designed to work with either the KS47 lower, or the standard AR47 lower. The chrome moly vanadium barrel is chambered in 7.62x39 with a 1 in 10 twist, has M4-style feed ramps, is nitride treated for accuracy and durability, and is finished off with a 5/8-24 thread A2-style compensator. The forward, assist, dust cover, charging handle, and safety are all standard AR15, as is the PSA Slim Keymod free-float rail and barrel nut. BCG: The hybrid KS47 Bolt carrier group works with either AK47 magazines or AR47 magazines, and features an extended firing pin. The carrier is made of 8620 steel, chrome lined and phosphate coated, and the chrome lined gas key is attached with grade 8 bolts and properly staked. The Bolt is made of phosphate coated 9310 steel. The KS47 Upper and Hybrid BCG are compatible with standard AR15 lowers for use with AR47-style magazines. Click here for more info Video with the PSAK-47 and KS-47 |
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Looks awesome, can't wait to get some good reviews on this. I am set up in the AK area so this would be a good way to get an AR type firearm and not have to completely start over.
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Aside from the free float barrel, the handguard, and the ability to use AK mags, how does this differ from PSA's regular 7.62x39 upper?
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This upper is milled out wider to accept the top of the AK magazine. There is another thread on it and I believe they said this upper will also work with ar mag lowers.
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EDIT for clarity
is this basically an ar47 with a dedicated AK mag compatible lower? the description in OP and the only info at PSA website makes it sound as if everything is proprietary. this does look very cool by either way. |
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All I want to know is will I be able to buy lowers at some point?!?
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I am very interested in this as it is similar to the Michael's Machines/Rhino Arms MM-47. I have a few questions:
1. Is the lower receiver a "low shelf" that will accept a RDIAS or RLL? 2. Is the bolt and carrier clearance cut to allow the use of unmodified standard AK mags and drums or is there a proprietary design? 3. When will an upper/lower receiver set be available for those who prefer to build the rifle out themselves, and at what price point? Thanks, Esox |
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The rifle is enticing but the numbers don't add up (for me). Take a $370 PSA upper, add a nice handguard and you are sitting at $550. That means I would be paying $450 for a lower so I can use $15 mags instead of $20 mags. Am I missing something?
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What's the price point on the carrier and stripped lower respectively????
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http://www.ak47.net/forums/t_3_121/689050_So_am_I_the_only_one_excited_about_the_Palmetto_State_KS_47_.html&page=1
The thread on page 2 of this section has a lot of the answers to the questions people are asking. |
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What's the price point on the carrier and stripped lower respectively???? View Quote I think you will also need the upper since the AK magazines are too wide for a standard AR upper. However, I have heard that a DPMS Lo-Pro upper has enough material that it can be machined out wider for the mags to fit. |
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I think you will also need the upper since the AK magazines are too wide for a standard AR upper. However, I have heard that a DPMS Lo-Pro upper has enough material that it can be machined out wider for the mags to fit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's the price point on the carrier and stripped lower respectively???? I think you will also need the upper since the AK magazines are too wide for a standard AR upper. However, I have heard that a DPMS Lo-Pro upper has enough material that it can be machined out wider for the mags to fit. The KS47 was designed off the AR15 platform. The KS47 upper receiver is designed to be used with both the KS47 lower as well as standard AR15 lowers with AR47 magazines. The upper receiver and bolt carrier have been modified from the AR15 design to accept the wider AK magazines. Most steel magazines and drums work with the KS47. Initial parts that will be available here, but a full line will be available soon |
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Will stripped uppers be made available?
I want to move the barrel and bolt from my AR-47 to a KS-47 receiver set. |
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I'm wondering why it's taken so long for someone to make the KS47. I have been thinking for years, stop fucking around with an AR lower, just make one for AK mags to feed into an AR style upper. IF I was going to get into 7.62x39, this is how I'd do it.
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I'm wondering why it's taken so long for someone to make the KS47. I have been thinking for years, stop fucking around with an AR lower, just make one for AK mags to feed into an AR style upper. IF I was going to get into 7.62x39, this is how I'd do it. View Quote Nice idea, but can't be done because 1) the AK mags are too wide to fit in an standard AR upper and 2) the rounds sit in the AK mag such that the AR bolt carrier need to be clearance cut to strip them and not bind on the magazine. This KS47 design (and similarly the MM-47 and MGI Hydra) are indeed the best options out there for retaining the AR platform's flexibility, customization options, and relatively low cost parts supply. Thank you to PSA for providing another option in this platform! I have subscribed for an alert when the stripped lower is available. So....will an RDIAS and RLL work with the lower? I would assume so based on the design, but would like to here confirmation from PSA. |
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Is the bolt(BCG) the same size or bigger then a standard ar15/5.56 BCG?
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Is the bolt(BCG) the same size or bigger then a standard ar15/5.56 BCG? View Quote The bolt and carrier in the KS47 has the same overall size as our reliable AR47 upper, but has some small modifications which allow it to function properly with both the AK47 and AR15 magazines. Stripped uppers and lowers will be available, as well as pistol lowers and various length uppers and rifle kits. The lower is a "low shelf" design. Edit - Corrected for clarity |
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The rifle is enticing but the numbers don't add up (for me). Take a $370 PSA upper, add a nice handguard and you are sitting at $550. That means I would be paying $450 for a lower so I can use $15 mags instead of $20 mags. Am I missing something? View Quote Nope, you got it right. A 'standard' 7.62x39 upper that takes AR x39 mags is still your cheapest option. And you can share a lower with another rifle. But if you're set on running AK mags in an AR this is one of the better lower cost options available compared to the Mutant, RRA ALR-47 or an MGI setup. Once the initial demand is met I think you'll see some good sale prices. 5 years ago I did spend a lot of time fiddling with my x39 AR mags, but they've improved a lot over time. My PA-47 with CPD mags hasn't failed yet, with multiple steel cased brands, Yugo surplus and Privi Partizan brass cased. No mods, no fiddling, just runs as reliably as my BCM 5.56. I'd like to see what surplus mags work in this, anyone who's read up on Sig's rifle, or the PTR-32, or any other 'hybrid' rifle that takes AK mags knows there's a LOT of variance in steel surplus mags. Even with AKs not every mag runs in every rifle. |
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The KS47 was designed off the AR15 platform. The KS47 upper receiver is designed to be used with both the KS47 lower as well as standard AR15 lowers with AR47 magazines. The upper receiver and bolt carrier have been modified from the AR15 design to accept the wider AK magazines. Most steel magazines and drums work with the KS47. Initial parts that will be available here, but a full line will be available soon View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's the price point on the carrier and stripped lower respectively???? I think you will also need the upper since the AK magazines are too wide for a standard AR upper. However, I have heard that a DPMS Lo-Pro upper has enough material that it can be machined out wider for the mags to fit. The KS47 was designed off the AR15 platform. The KS47 upper receiver is designed to be used with both the KS47 lower as well as standard AR15 lowers with AR47 magazines. The upper receiver and bolt carrier have been modified from the AR15 design to accept the wider AK magazines. Most steel magazines and drums work with the KS47. Initial parts that will be available here, but a full line will be available soon Any plans on selling just the upper receiver? I have an MGI AK lower that I'd like to put a new upper receiver on it. Nevermind, I see the answer above. |
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If most people read the top posted ad from PSA it answers your questions..
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PSA KS47 Pics and Video!!
Video!! PSA KS47 vs CMMG Mutant Video!! PSA_9051 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr BCG PSA_9073 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr PSA_9076 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr PSA_9078 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr PSA_9082 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr Comparison between Standard carrier and "hybrid" (right) PSA_9084 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr Standard carrier (Right) PSA_9089 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr PSA_9097 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr Close up lower pics. PSA_9061 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr PSA_9062 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr IMG_9065 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr PSA_9066 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr PSA_9068 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr |
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Thank you for the good picture show captain 11, or wayne1one.
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Thanks for posting the video. CMMG took a problem and came up with a good solution, but the use of AR10 parts comes with a weight/size penalty. I like the PSA unless I thought it would be breaking bolts every 1000 rounds.
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Thank you for the good picture show captain 11, or wayne1one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes my pleasure! Quoted:
Thanks for posting the video. CMMG took a problem and came up with a good solution, but the use of AR10 parts comes with a weight/size penalty. I like the PSA unless I thought it would be breaking bolts every 1000 rounds. I hope that's not the case, but only time will tell... Really need to get one out and just shoot it though, for what it's worth it looks solid.... |
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Thanks for the pictures and video. Less than half a pound weight difference between the two... I see the pros and cons of both, but I still think the CMMG is going to be the better platform from a longevity standpoint with the AR10 based BCG, but if PSA has a daily deal on the uppers or lowers they'll sell the hell out of them at the cheaper price point.
I still haven't found the 8" factory SBR Mutant for sale that was shown off at SHOT show this year, so availability has impacted CMMG sales. |
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Thanks for the pictures and video. Less than half a pound weight difference between the two... I see the pros and cons of both, but I still think the CMMG is going to be the better platform from a longevity standpoint with the AR10 based BCG, but if PSA has a daily deal on the uppers or lowers they'll sell the hell out of them at the cheaper price point. I still haven't found the 8" factory SBR Mutant for sale that was shown off at SHOT show this year, so availability has impacted CMMG sales. View Quote I noticed that CMMG is selling the 7.62x39 uppers and lowers separately, seems you have to FORM 1 yours and just build it......... |
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I'd love an 80% option...but I doubt that's gonna happen. Depending on the price for a lower I might just go with the BRS-47
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