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OP has money to blow, sweet. Looking forward to the total weight and a review describing recoil.
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Just to clarify so we're apples to apples.
The MATEN set weighs 27.4 according to MEGA - that's for the upper and lower. Don't go by the set as that includes the charge handle and actually an old weight listing. Also, it includes the port door (.5oz), port door rod (approx. .2oz), take down pins (.7oz), springs/detents (approx. .1oz). So completely stripped like the 2A set, it weighs in at a hefty 25.9oz. The 2A set is 9.6oz lighter than the MATEN, which is significant. |
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Waiting for my barrel, it finished up at 31.3 ounces so I am expecting about 4.7 pounds for now. CF pistol grips might cut another ounce. I know barrels as light as 29 ounces have been made at 16 inch length. Just no one is selling them right now.
My other AR308 weighs 5 pounds even, recoil is greatly reduced with a good 2 chamber titanium V7 muzzle brake, reduced weight BCG titanium and a tune-able gas block. Very low recoil, I have a BAD shooting shoulder. I can shoot 60-80 rounds of 175 SMKs with the 5 pound AR 308 no problem. I will probably start shooting with the Mk 319 130 SOST ammo in the ultra lite 16 inch AR 308. I have 20 boxes and they are FUN to shoot. |
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This thread is so fucking tagged. Big fan of your work sir.
Can we get some pics of the R side of that upper? |
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Right side, they put the serial number here instead of the normal left side. Also they understand the 308, don't need a stinking forward assist. <a href="http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/brasse/media/2A_308XanthosBS3_zpse55xzdy7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff464/brasse/2A_308XanthosBS3_zpse55xzdy7.jpg</a> View Quote godamn those receivers are sexy. Thx for the pic. Some inspration there for the hack job I am going to do to my Armalite set. I had planned on drilling holes above and below the grip screw hole, instead I ould do like 2A did and just grind away materal above and below it, it doesnt' need to go all the way across in a straight line. Some other cues I may follow. First thing i need it to get someone to do a side charger probably, if I have enough material there still. was planning on drilling the deflector similarly too. |
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Guessing you've got the V7 aluminum end plate and castle nut.
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Is that a custom length stock or a1 length?
I dunno about a Ti can pin OP, might gall w the carrier. You could shed weight w a light profile on that carrier. But grinding Ti is like Satan's asshole. Anyway, so far so great! Post up some pron w the whole thing assembled |
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This does not make the wait for my set to ship easier! All the machining in spec and looking good?!?
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AR 308 @ 4.8 pounds Just finished the upper, came in at 58.4 ounces. With the lower at 18.6 ounces total weight is 77 ounces or 4.8 pounds. I have to shoot it ASSAP, just so many projects at home. In order to get down to 4.5 pounds I would have to have a 16 inch barrel weighing 29 ounces. I know Salt Works has done a demonstration barrel at that weight. Maybe Faxon will produce a true pencil weight 308 barrel. Also really want a lighter CF pistol grip. At 1.1 to 1.3 ounces it would cut 0.5 to 1.0 ounces over must grips. They are now making titanium carrier pins for the AR15, logical to also make them for the 308. <a href="http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/brasse/media/2A_308XanthosUpper%2058.4oz_zpsz9wtmeor.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff464/brasse/2A_308XanthosUpper%2058.4oz_zpsz9wtmeor.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/brasse/media/2A_308XanthosLower18.60ozLarge_zpsiefyn4n7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff464/brasse/2A_308XanthosLower18.60ozLarge_zpsiefyn4n7.jpg</a> View Quote Check with 2A. They have us making some fun stuff for them to match with the upper! |
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That is amazing!
I have been pondering on some weight reduction for my 16" 308, but not anywhere like this haha. |
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We managed to get the XANTHOS-lite production gun down to 6.75 lbs before I left 2A. I spec'd the rifle as such.
2A Xanthos upper/lower 2A Titanium pins 2A X4 titanium brake 2A .308 Rail "Style 2" 2A Lightweight barrel 1/10 5R 18" .308 Match chamber Rifle length gas system .093 gas port Full mass internals A5 Extension Springco Orange H3 Buffer P-MAG MIAD Grip Mission First stock CMC 2/2 trigger So in the end you have a full rifle gas 18" gun with full mass internals, A5 extension, that shoots nice and soft, and is only 6.75 lbs. Not sure how far along they are with it now though, but I know they are all excited. thanks OP for starting this thread! Ryan |
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We managed to get the XANTHOS-lite production gun down to 6.75 lbs before I left 2A. I spec'd the rifle as such. 2A Xanthos upper/lower 2A Titanium pins 2A X4 titanium brake 2A .308 Rail "Style 2" 2A Lightweight barrel 1/10 5R 18" .308 Match chamber Rifle length gas system .093 gas port Full mass internals A5 Extension Springco Orange H3 Buffer P-MAG MIAD Grip Mission First stock CMC 2/2 trigger So in the end you have a full rifle gas 18" gun with full mass internals, A5 extension, that shoots nice and soft, and is only 6.75 lbs. Not sure how far along they are with it now though, but I know they are all excited. thanks OP for starting this thread! Ryan View Quote You left? :( Good terms? Bad Term? Where did you move to? |
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Guess that's why it's been quiet over on the industry page.
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We managed to get the XANTHOS-lite production gun down to 6.75 lbs before I left 2A. I spec'd the rifle as such. 2A Xanthos upper/lower 2A Titanium pins 2A X4 titanium brake 2A .308 Rail "Style 2" 2A Lightweight barrel 1/10 5R 18" .308 Match chamber Rifle length gas system .093 gas port Full mass internals A5 Extension Springco Orange H3 Buffer P-MAG MIAD Grip Mission First stock CMC 2/2 trigger So in the end you have a full rifle gas 18" gun with full mass internals, A5 extension, that shoots nice and soft, and is only 6.75 lbs. Not sure how far along they are with it now though, but I know they are all excited. thanks OP for starting this thread! Ryan View Quote |
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I am interested in this build for sure. I owned three AR10s and they shot great, but the weight turned me off.
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I IM'd OP. test and Tren back in and let us know power suits and maybe post up some pictures of The Thing complete. He has been around last week apparently
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Guess that's why it's been quiet over on the industry page. Other endeavors I assume? Standard or adjustable block? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Guess that's why it's been quiet over on the industry page. Other endeavors I assume? Standard or adjustable block? Quoted:
We managed to get the XANTHOS-lite production gun down to 6.75 lbs before I left 2A. I spec'd the rifle as such. 2A Xanthos upper/lower 2A Titanium pins 2A X4 titanium brake 2A .308 Rail "Style 2" 2A Lightweight barrel 1/10 5R 18" .308 Match chamber Rifle length gas system .093 gas port Full mass internals A5 Extension Springco Orange H3 Buffer P-MAG MIAD Grip Mission First stock CMC 2/2 trigger So in the end you have a full rifle gas 18" gun with full mass internals, A5 extension, that shoots nice and soft, and is only 6.75 lbs. Not sure how far along they are with it now though, but I know they are all excited. thanks OP for starting this thread! Ryan It did not have an adjustable block, however knowing the crew, a .308 RBC SHOULD be in the works. I won't say good or bad on leaving.... I can say I will remain in the industry, but will wait to say where I am going for now. I am very excited however! Ryan |
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jesus, he hasnt' been on since the 21st... ANyone else members at hte ohter forums he is at? he probably put hte money shot there.
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He posted over on the 2A industry page.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_493/252959_Xanthos_.html&page=7#i2895314 |
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Great thread!
I thought my build was fairly light at 8.4 lbs with Prairie Arms red dot, backup iron sights, and an empty 25 round Magpul mag. |
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